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MikeOboe57

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  1. Relying on temporarily cash strapped EU countries for selling their citizenships - and becoming subject to European jurisdiction? A tricky decision for someone like Thaksin with his war on drugs resumee.

    MIKT replied to my post as follows:

    Are you still roasting that old chestnut, please get it into your head that Thaksin did no initiate the so called "war on drugs" it was government policy long before he was elected, with Police/Army/Rangers (men in black) entering the houses of these SUSPECTED of drug dealing and shooting them dead in front of their families! Sometimes getting the wrong people. I don't defend his policy of widening the net, but it will not affect how he is viewed outside Thailand.

    Before you hand out a blanket amnesty for Thaksin I suggest you familiarize yourself with Thaksin´s "War on Drugs", as you are obviously unaware of the most basic facts. Here is something for you to read:

    http://www.hrw.org/reports/2004/thailand0704/4.htm

    In the age of the internet feeble attempts to rewrite history are shot down in flames right after takeoff.

  2. How can anybody seriously think revoking his passport will have any effect ? Who got invited to the World Leaders conference in Korea? It is the current lot that (like many of you haters) who are squirming .

    First it wasn´t a "World Leaders Conference". Look it up.

    Second and most important is the fact that Thaksin is now depending on 2 (IIRC) foreign countries for extending his passports. Whenever these countries decide that it is no longer in their interest to be associated with someone like Thaksin Shinawatra then he is in real trouble. He will now have to grease a lot of palms and continue to invest in these countries whether he likes it or not to retain the privilege of a passport.

    With two Thai passports as "fallback options" he didn´t have to worry.

    No effect?

    "....Thaksin is now depending on 2 (IIRC) foreign countries for extending his passports."

    Maltese passport and life as an EU citizen for anyone with £546,000

    Yes, a solid option. You should have read the whole article.

    "[...] But the Maltese opposition says that the process used to vet the applications lacks transparency, and is unhappy that the applicants’ identities will not publicly disclosed. Simon Busutil, the leader of the opposition Nationalist Party, has pledged to revoke the passports if his party is gets into power again.

    Mr Busuttil, who sits on a monitoring committee that has access to the applicants’ names, has also threatened to disclose their identities publicly, which could frighten off publicity-shy oligarchs. [...]" http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/malta/10445966/Maltese-passport-and-life-as-an-EU-citizen-for-anyone-with-546000.html#disqus_thread

    Relying on temporarily cash strapped EU countries for selling their citizenships - and becoming subject to European jurisdiction? A tricky decision for someone like Thaksin with his war on drugs resumee.

  3. How can anybody seriously think revoking his passport will have any effect ? Who got invited to the World Leaders conference in Korea? It is the current lot that (like many of you haters) who are squirming .

    First it wasn´t a "World Leaders Conference". Look it up.

    Second and most important is the fact that Thaksin is now depending on 2 (IIRC) foreign countries for extending his passports. Whenever these countries decide that it is no longer in their interest to be associated with someone like Thaksin Shinawatra then he is in real trouble. He will now have to grease a lot of palms and continue to invest in these countries whether he likes it or not to retain the privilege of a passport.

    With two Thai passports as "fallback options" he didn´t have to worry.

    No effect?

  4. It is obvious why Somyot is stalling this rather simple procedure. He hopes to hand this hot potato to his successor.

    There are several possible reasons for that.


    1. He does not want to serve as lightning rod for Thaksin´s revenge when the latter (as Somyot apparently believes) comes back in pomp and glory.

    2. He might have (I am speculating here) some "soft spots" in his career or his bank accounts/other assets, which are known to the Friends of Thaksin Club within the police force.


    He may also be hoping for a decisive order from above so he can later claim he acted under duress against his personal conviction.


    So many paratrooper badges in the picture and no balls.

  5. [snip]

    In respect to the bombing of Germany, the Commonwealth and US air forces have nothing to apologize for. The target areas were all legitimate.. Every "civilian" was an integrated part of the German killing/destruction machine. As the war demonstrated, there were no German civilians. There were however, Hitler Youth trained from an early age to kill, and to give absolute loyalty to the German war machine. There were women women considered to be baby factories and part of the war effort. All of Germany was complicit All of Germany was an integrated part of the conquest strategy. No one was a conscientious objector, and no one was a non combatant. By the time of the bombing campaign, anyone who had opposed the Nazis was either murdered or in a concentration camp waiting to die.

    What a post. But I appreciate it, as it - albeit unintentionally - shows that you have to pick from the lowest drawer to justify the indiscriminate killing of women and children, or, to stay in your terminology, "destruction of baby factories and preemptive strikes against future enemy combattants".

    I see you in decent company with your statements. Radovan Karacic and Ratko Mladic used the same wording to legitimize the ethnic cleansing of Kosovo, as did the Interahamwe in Ruanda. Al Qaeda also considers every American or "Western" civilian a legitimate target and IS uses the same argument for its mass murders in the Middle East. And let us not forget what all of these persons and groups have been labelled as.

    To get back on topic I suggest that Mr. Sommer - if found to be fit to stand trial and found guilty - receives the same sentence as the American officer who commanded the unit that carried out the My Lai massacre in Vietnam (with a similar number of civilian victims): 3.5 years house arrest (the only participant to be tried and found guilty btw.)

  6. It comes as no surprise that members of the Shin clan are trying to whitewash one another. And it is quite revealing that Sir Gollum is still harbouring the wet dream of becoming FM again, because this is exactly what Thailand needs - an embarasssment as FM, Plodprasop, the propellerman, as minister for science and water, and last but not least Black Label Chalerm in charge of security, (non-)dealing with the insurgency in the South and revoking residence permits for "hi-parking".

    Question: In comparison to the circumstances you describe, none of which I am disagreeing with, how is the current administration less inept?

    If anything, I'd offer that it is slightly worse.

    Foreign Affairs: Alienated every developed world nation because of the coup and the position of a return to an elected government. Antagonized the USA. Annoyed China, Japan and South Korea because of inaction of air safety. Provoked the ire of progressive nations because of its behaviour in regard to the Rohingya. The previous admin never made errors like that.

    Southern Insurgency: Has any progress been made? Seriousl, what's the difference between the activity/position between the current government, the Yingluck admin, the Abhsit admin and the previous military admin? It's always been a mess hasn't it?

    Oh come on, GK.

    What can be "slightly worse" than an FM trying to repeatedly drag foreign diplomats into Thai domestic affairs and pestering them to take sides, what can be "slightly worse" than a science minister ordering the purchase of "water pushing machines" and trying to "push" the Chao Phraya River into the Ocean with 1000 boats while at the same time hundreds of Thais drowned in the floods?

    And what can be "slightly worse" than Chalerm who steadfastly refused to visit the Southern Regions and, when finally being forced "at gunpoint", spent half an hour dozing through some briefing before he left again. The only remarkable event was his intoxicated "Saturday Night Fever" performance in a Malaysian hotel lobby while on a state visit. His performance was so abysmal even by Shin standards that, although he was young Thaksin´s mentor and helped him to money and power, he was finally demoted in the last of the numerous Yingluck cabinet reshuffles to the labour ministry.

    Let us not forget that the Army did a fairly decent job in the Southern Provinces until PM Thaksin decided that the gloves would have to come off.

    As you were apparently happy with the previous government you should now not hold the current PM to higher standards.

  7. It comes as no surprise that members of the Shin clan are trying to whitewash one another. And it is quite revealing that Sir Gollum is still harbouring the wet dream of becoming FM again, because this is exactly what Thailand needs - an embarasssment as FM, Plodprasop, the propellerman, as minister for science and water, and last but not least Black Label Chalerm in charge of security, (non-)dealing with the insurgency in the South and revoking residence permits for "hi-parking".

  8. [sNIP]

    It always has, and always will fall on the young people and academics. It is they who have the least to lose in the material sense, and the longest row to hoe if they stand by and allow the rank and file to do nothing. Many with families, careers and established positions within their communities lack sufficient testicular fortitude or perhaps the degree of anonymity sometimes necessary to do more than pay lip service to the cries of their consciences. I know this is not what the TVF (Thai Visa Faithful) want to hear, but hey, truth is like that.

    The seeds of disruption are inescapably sown the second a cabal takes it upon themselves to redirect the fate of a nation, any nation, that has already plotted its course and set sail. At the moment a Constitution is drafted and ratified (by Royal Decree, no less), it becomes incumbent upon the people, and the political justice system to sort out whatever differences may arise, in the usual manner, which is always slow, and incredibly painful, especially to watch. Thailand was to be no exception to this rule.

    The kids are right. The 2007 Constitution was sacrosanct and the government both legally and ethically warranted protection against insurrection by a military that in effect, opted to abandon its post. Anyone with an ounce of sense recognizes this, especially veterans. As such, this should have the impact of late-breaking news to many armchair generals on this site. Read carefully: the previously mentioned abdication constitutes treason, and the people's court will not be denied.

    The wheels of justice may be generally slow, but they are always turning. Meanwhile, buckets of blood will be on the hands that stood idly by and did nothing to prevent this when it mattered most. Hands that are supported even now by the troglodytes who cheer them on. Individuals with whom the rest of us are forced to share a species designation. If that doesn't knock us all down a few pegs, nothing will.

    Suddenly the 2007 Constitution is "sacrosanct". When the Yingluck Government wanted to bin it and replace it with a new one that would allow Thaksin to come back and be PM again the very same constitution was labelled by the red shirt support faction in this forum as being written by "fascist coupists" and "rammed down the throat of the Thai people in a fake referendum while the military poked guns at their bellies".

    What is it now?

  9. The very same forum members that scream bloody murder whenever a Thai Hi-So considers him-/herself above the law are up in arms to defend an American actor displaying the same attitude - that the sole purpose of laws is to keep low income earning scum in check.

    Is it a mere coincidence that the actor´s last name is actually German and means "twit"?

  10. I guess I owe the forum an apology. After the mild dressing down I searched the internet and found that this event has been labelled "Deflategate" and "Ballghazi" by the American media. So it looked like the fraud of the century. But sifting through knee deep white noise I found that all the hype is about the unverified allegation by a losing team that a ball they intercepted from the winning team was one or two psi below the minimum of 12.5 psi pressure.

    If this were true - the verdict so far is "more probable than not" - it was facilitated by the rather stupid NFL regulation that each offense can use their own set of balls - giving ample opportunity for all kinds of manipulation.

  11. They say America is not ready for a Woman to be a President.Did n't America used to have a retarded cowboy as president for 8 years?

    Retarded. If you mean Dubya, he's a graduate of Yale University and of Harvard Business School. He was a fighter pilot in the military. He was a self-made multi-millionaire before he ran for POTUS.

    He was President of The United States of America.

    Now what was your resume again, Einstein? whistling.gif

    Dubya was never in the military running the risk of having to serve in Vietnam. His father and friends got him a (at that time) cushy job in the Air National Guard bypassing a rather long waiting list. There are also rumours that when he moved to another state during his service term he never reported for duty again.

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