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Many thanks Tony M. 

Hi All. With the ILR application looming in August i'm in the stressed-out stage with areas of mental fog instead of clear answers to some questions. Such as : with the required Contract of Employment, and 'Letter from The Employer' for my wife Tass, who has been with the same employer since 2018 at least, is a brand new Contract signed within 28 days before the submission of the application necessary ? Similarly, is a new 'Letter from Employer' signed within the 28-day-rule for documents required ? These are docs that were submitted for the FLR visa of course. Is there a basic difference between these two employment docs in terms of how up-to-date they have to be, as i notice that in March 2019 when we applied for the FLR the Letter was bang up to date (Feb 28th 2019), but the Contract was dated October 8, 2018, about 5 months old,  and it all went through ok.   

Thanks bigyin and Tony M, i like the idea of an 'inutitive' form - sounds great. 

Hi all.  Looking at the form for an ILR application - the SET(M) form,  i'm slightly stuck at the section for entering details of any Savings to be used as part of the Financial Requirement qualification.  Simply this :  how have members negotiated the fact that an applicant might have 2,3,4.. different savings accounts, but the SET form only provides boxes to enter 1 account, and it just refers to 'The Account'.   As far as i can see, there is no space in which to put something like 'Please see additional sheets for other accounts' ?  

19 hours ago, Captain 776 said:

Maximum.......6-12 months she will be back in Thailand.

she will hate UK, too cold for her.

she will miss her family

her friends

her food

 

 

Thai wife been with me in the uk for 3 years 2 months - loves her job which pays 4 times more than she'd get back in LoS, eats Thai food whenever she wants, of course, and it is ME who complains about the bloody cold !  Best not to generalise ?

????‍♂️????‍♀️????‍♂️ 

Oh what a clever idea...making enemies and showing your face to everyone in LoS - is he going to choke-hold the crim's entire family and friends ?  Good luck Italian hero, you will need it.

10 minutes ago, elviajero said:

No it’s not!

 

Read my post again, which was the correct answer to a question by the OP.

I'm assuming that what UbonJoe meant was that it is like the recently changed process for applying for a UK spouse visa inside the UK - filling it in Online, but then printing it off and posting it ?  (Now radically changed).  That's how i'm reading it.  A combination of online form completing on screen, and then posting in to the embassy.  Is that wrong ?  Thanks.

44 minutes ago, steven100 said:

Ubonjoe is the master on your question …. he will answer for you.

Yep - he has for many a year !  ????

27 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Most of the info for doing it by post you asked about can be found here.

 http://www.thaiembassy.org/london/en/services/7742/84397-How-to-apply-visa-by-post.html 

No need for a trip to the embassy.

 

The requirements for financial proof on the embassy website are not that clear. You can combine income and money in the bank to reach the equivalent of 800k baht. This from the online application site is clearer.

"3. Financial evidence : a guarantee letter from the bank and a copy of bank statement showing a deposit of the amount equal to and not less than 800,000 THB or an income certificate with a monthly income of not less than 65,000 THB or a deposit account plus a monthly income in total not less than 800,000 THB (Note: corrected typo to make it 800k baht instead of 80k baht)"

Source: https://thaievisa.go.th/Home/LongStay

All of the money in the bank can be in a UK bank.

Many thanks Joe - long time no read - happy to see you are still here and hopefully in good shape ????  Do they mean that the 'combined sum' would come from : Monthly Income x 12,  added to whatever sum is on Deposit ? 

15 minutes ago, elviajero said:

Yes, just the old style forms. You can still use the post and don’t need to visit London.

Thank the lord for that !  Thanks for the reply as well ????

Hi all.  Just browsing the Thai Embassy, London website to get up-to-date with the ever-changing visa rules for visiting Thailand, and guess what, i am pretty confused - what's new !  Ok, so this is from the introductory page - 

"How to apply visa by post

So that says as i read it,  From June 15, online application, an account necessary, print-out the filled-in online form and "Submit to the Embassy by post."  But then, in the last paragraph there is a reference to 'old visa applications' being returned if they are posted in after June 14.  Ok, so i'm reading that as just a block on the old-style forms ?  So postal applications still accepted as long as the new online form used.  I am just trying to make sure i will NOT have to make the trip to London !  

If you click through the embassy site to get to the Non-Imm Visa section, there is this paragraph - 

Applicants are required to set up an account and submit visa applications as an individual, or apply through travel agencies as previously, where travel agencies will submit online applications on their behalf.  However, supporting documents have to be attached and payment has to be made online through secured portal.  Applicants can either book an appointment to submit their passports and visa applications in person at the Embassy, or submit them by post (for those who are eligible to do so).

Anybody have an understanding what 'those who are eligible to do so'  means ? 

Lastly, in the Non 'O-A' visa section - this - 

" 

• Financial evidence showing monthly income of not less than 65,000 THB (approx. £1,625) or having the current balance of 800,000 THB (approx. £20,000), e.g. bank statements, proof of earnings, for at least 1 month

As i have nowhere near that monthly income, (i wish!) i will need to show the 800,000 THB in the bank for at least 1 month - is it ok for that to be in a UK bank, or is it one of those deposits that has to be in a Thai bank ?

Thanks.

On 1/19/2019 at 10:22 PM, globalThailand said:

Financial Requirement bumpf  - <<< Have a read of this 

 

It looks like she falls into category B (Less than 6 months with an employer).  As with all these government docs it's not an easy read.  As far as I can see category A and B cannot be simply combined.  Instead they assess both partners as Category B and break it up into 2 parts - 1) The current combined salaries of you and your partner need to meet the financial requirement and 2) the combined earnings of the 12 months before the application need to have met the financial requirement.

Thanks for that...i think we can cover it just about.  But all that Category A and Category B stuff is a pain.  I'm going to try to cover all bases by supplying 12 months payslips and bank statements for her, and 12 months bank statements for me (showing pension payments), and hope for the best.  That way they can look at/calculate whatever they want - either 6 current monthly incomes totalled and divided by 6 then multiplied by 12; or 12 x latest monthly incomes; or simply Add up the ACTUAL receipts into our bank accounts for the past year - losing the will to live here...

5 hours ago, 7by7 said:

If she wants her FLR to start on the day 30 months after she first entered the UK and therefore finish 5 years after that in order to be time qualified for ILR; then yes she should apply no earlier than 28 days before the date she will have been in the UK for 30 months.

 

Though to be honest, whilst it may be worth utilising this for ILR, I see little point in doing so for FLR; unless it is to get the application submitted before an announced fees rise.

Point taken, thanks.  There is an area of concern right now about the wife's salary being a vital part of the £18,600 financial requirement. I understand of course the need for 6 months wage-slips and matching bank statements, but her current quite high salary was not in place 4 months ago when she was doing 2 part-time jobs.  So i wonder - how does UKVI calculate the Annual salary ?  Eg :  if someone has been earning the £18,600 for THREE months, will they helpfully multiply that up to a 12-month total ?  Or does an applicant have to have actually worked for 6 months at the higher salary to meet the requirement ?  This is causing stress....aaargghhh.  I suppose it is in home office guidance somewhere ?

1 hour ago, 7by7 said:

The three month period you refer to, i.e. the reason why the initial visa is valid for 33 months, is there to allow people to wind up their affairs once they have their initial visa and before they make their first entry to the UK using that visa. 

 

(Although UKVI introduced a sneaky trick a few years ago where it is valid for entry for just one month and if you delay travelling past that you've got to pay to extend it!)

 

Your wife can apply for her FLR at any time once she is in the UK; the day she arrives if she wants! But if she does so too early then it will expire before she has lived in the UK for a total of 60 months and so she will not be time qualified for ILR and have to make, and pay for, another FLR application.

 

So the earliest she should apply is 30 months after her first arrival, although as the guidance says she can actually apply 28 days before this; provided she did not delay her first entry for more than 3 months. The latest she can apply is 33 months from the date of issue of her initial visa, though again she can apply 28 days before this, provided her initial visa, and BRP, is still valid.

 

She can also apply at any time between these dates.

 

Most people apply at the earliest opportunity; i.e. once they have been in the UK for the 30 months, or 28 days before that date.

 

You say

It doesn't expire 33 months after she entered the UK; it expires 33 months after it was issued!

 

As said, she can apply after living in the UK for 30 months; by my reckoning that's 11th. March 2019 (check, I could easily be wrong!).

 

In which case she should be able to get her application in before the fee increase in April; though she will have to pay the increased IHS surcharge which came into force on 8th January.

 

Are you also aware that A1 in English speaking and listening is no longer sufficient for FLR? She now needs A2.

Thanks again 7x7 - solid advice as ever.  So yes, i calculated the 30 months period for my wife after entering the UK on September 12, 2016, as being March 12th, 2019, but it could be the 11th - i will double check.  So does that make the earliest application date 28 days before that - February 12th ?  (Or 11th).  I'm double-checking on this as it is only 3+ weeks away.

Yes- the English test is all done and dusted - she passed the B1 test with A grades in Leeds Trinity yesterday.  A small victory !

On 1/16/2019 at 9:50 PM, globalThailand said:

I've been looking into this a bit lately as it's time to start planning the FLR(m) for my wife.  I'm thinking there's no real need to rush into the application at the earliest though.  As you point out you have that 60 month requirement for the ILR so you may as well apply on month 32 of the initial stay to give yourself some leeway a couple of years down the line when it comes to applying for that.  Happy to hear thoughts of those with more experience though ????  

Yep, that's perfectly ok and good thinking.  We have personal reasons for wanting to get it done and dusted as early as possible without messing up that 60-month rule for the ILR.  The way the guidance is written is (to me) totally illogical.  It basically says you can a) Apply up to 28 days Before the end of the permission to stay in the UK - as shown on the BRP card, or b) Apply up to 28 days Before the date at which the applicant has been in the UK for 30 months dated from the day they entered the country.  As the spouse visa is 33 months long, that means there is an approx. 2-month period between those two dates which is in no-man's-land.  It is not covered by either of the rules a) and b).  See what i mean ?  I need to ask a new question, which is about whether any periods outside the UK on holiday count as part of the 30-months continuous residence...

"I don't even bother trying to calculate dates etc."  ?

Hi all. My wife's first UK spouse visa ends on June 1st this year - that is the 33-month point since she entered the UK on September 12th, 2016. We want to apply for the Further Leave to Remain as early as possible without being too early and eating into the 60-month period necessary for the final ILR application. Asking a probably stupid question - do the home office just use calendar months when counting up, and not defining a Month as for example, 4 weeks ? So based on the simple calendar method, i'm counting from her initial entry to the UK as SEPT 12, 2016 > SEPT 12, 2018 = 2 years, plus SEPT 12, 2018 to MARCH 12th, 2019 (6 months) = 30 Months - is that correct ? I really don't want to mess up here! Then using their '28 days before the 30 months point' as the earliest safe date to apply, does that bring us to FEBRUARY 12th, 2019 as the earliest possible SAFE date to apply ? I'm rubbish at dates so i really would appreciate someone double-checking these numbers for me please  Many thanks and a belated happy new year to everyone, and apologies for a very dull post on an old topic.  It is quite urgent for us.

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2 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

It must of been a one off error, There have been many reports of the embassy issuing multiple entry visas.

Are you sure he was not confusing a consulate with an embassy?

Hi ubonjoe - so is there a difference between applying at the Thai embassy in person, and having a local consulate (eg Hull) sending one's papers into the London embassy ?

Hi all - so is there a neat answer to the different takes on the Non-immigrant Cat O 1-year Multi Entry for UK pensioners ?  Until today i did think that us old brits had lost that great visa which i had used for over 5 years.  Ubonjoe pls.

22 hours ago, Blackheart1916 said:

So keep voting until you get the result you want?

What i call a FOREVERENDUM ;-)

On 2/13/2018 at 11:46 AM, JOC said:

An illegal abortion clinic is probably a very qualified guess....

At 4 months old ?!

23 hours ago, wakeupplease said:

Make an appointment at specsavers if I was you. 1,452 deaths in Jan, UK for the whole year may be just 1700 and yes every day you see police on the road over last two nights while taking the wife to work we saw police pulling cars as those police cars have cameras that take a note of all car numbers as they are being driven and then run that number plate through the DVLA computers who have records of whether the car is insured, tax and MOTed and the results are sown to the police in seconds, so you get pulled and no insurance or license means you do not drive home your car is on the back of a transporter to the nick.

 

CCTV everywhere and they work and you get a ticket Average speed cameras yes loads of them and they work also, should you get too many speeding fines your driving license also gets taken by the boys at the nick.

 

So think again be4 posting rubbish.

Yep, and 1/3rd of those impounded cars end up crushed - imagine the face on a young hi-so Thai if that happened to his pride & joy !