GettingGreenBook

Well here at the Department of Land Transport at Banglamung they said they could not transfer the registration of my my car that is registerd in Chonburi and they told me the same for my motorbike.

Maybe they are just crazy here but for the car it was confirmed at the DLT of Chonburi (but that was about a year ago so that could have changed today .... and tomorrow again)

HavingGreenBook

Well about Kawa's I am refering to the Thai made D-Tracker 250, not to other Kawa's. A good friend of mine is still driving his ZZR-1100 that he bought new a long time ago, and that without any major problems or repairs.

HavingGreenBook

It is a Yamaha XT250x from 2006 for the Japanese market, almost 100% identical as the Serrow250 and a twin-brother of the Tricker 250 (or XG250). It is sold in Japan, Italia, South-Africa and some other countries.

It has a carb instead of FI and has 21hp instead like the newer bikes 17hp. This bike has emmison-control and is EU3 approved

Yes I could have bought a D-Tracker 250 for 150k but still had to modify that a lot for my short legs and it has to be de-restricted to make it more powerfull. And really believe me there is a quality difference between a D-Tracker made in Thailand and a Yamaha XT made in Japan. Yes I could have bought a Tiger Boxer 250 and modify it but then I would have rather bought a D-Tracker 250.

I ride it both on-road and off-road and still love it.

About the green book, there are many different "legal" green books. In mine is stated that excise tax has been paid and that the bike has been tested (both with reference number and signeture). I had the book checked at the local DLT and it is all fine, I can pay my tax here. If I want to sell I have to do that in BKK as it is registerd in BKK.

I think of the all process the problem is having the bike approved by the Thailand Automotive Institute. And another hurdle might be is gettiing the bike valued at the right price (which will save you some tax).

Good pics!

And indeed they look heavy.

You could actually make 2 smaller ones instead of 1 wide one. One for the bike, one for yourself (at least with a 4x4 or PreRunner/HiRider).

The Alum one's from DirtShop are so flexibele that it looks like they will break but they are a combi of Alum and super strong plastic. Unless you overload they will not break.

Today was scheduled to pickup the Green Book at the DLT in bkk but when I was there the (middleman) contact person said "Mai mi" and "Call your motorbike shop". And the motorbike shop said "It is at the DLT". Then suddenly someone else calls me "I arrange the Green Book for you, but I am upcountry can you come back monday" .... Noooooooooooo!!!Then a lot of weird stories are being told and I think "The Green Book is ready and it is at the DLT but someone did make his commision yet" so I play the stupid falang and go to the information desk and show them the copy of the Green Book "Where my Green Book?". The sweet girl takes me to another guy with a computer and he writes her an ID-number and name. We then walk into a kind of manager of the DLT office (I see them a bit talking) and there is my Green Book with all the correct stamps (as far as I know). I have to sign for receiving (nobody asks for my ID) and of I go with my Green Book.Lesson learned? Yes next time I will just do it all myself!

Indeed would love to see pic's.

When you make it folding the weak point will be right there.

You can easly make them from steel, but they will be bloody heavy.

I used the alum. things that DirtShop is selling once and the work great and are very light ... but not wide.

So I thought I just buy a good alum. ladder put an alum. plate over it and I am done?

My bike is only 120kg and I weight only 75kg, so less as 200kg on 2 wheels.

Come from where to overnight? North? SOuth? East?

Nice litte gi ... a bike!

I do not understand the story about "no FI, no emmison approval". There are still and will be brand new carb bikes for sale in Thailand. Also with carb (and the right emmison control) you can pass the emmison test.

Although I think that Honda is betting on the fact that in the long term in Europe and maybe other countries there will be tax-break for FI-bikes or a law against new carb-bikes.

Although both bike a good bikes, I think both bikes are for a bit different reason difficult to drive in the traffic in Bangkok (or in any other busy city).

A motard model bike would do much better (like Kawasaki D-Tracker 125 or 250) or a Tiger Boxer might even be better in the traffic.

Or otherwise something like a Honda Sonic 125.

Wow great thing such a lift, had been thinking to design something like that myself. But I think to make it all work you have to fit it on your car (so not just take-away to remove it). That's a big downside of it.

BTW I do not think you have to report it to the DLT, it basically is a piece of cargo in your car just like the bike.

I have also been thinking about a kind of lift that goes just horizontal up so you can just "drive" bike in your car. But all too much work.

So I think it is going to be a rampage and just drive my bike in my car. I have seen some for sale at DirtBike Shop in Bangkok (about 4.500thb) but only 25cm wide so you have to stand on the ground and then walk your bike into your car. Seems a bit difficult with a high car (4x4), a 128kg bike and a person of 1.68m.

I am looking for a good mechanic for my XT250x as I think the enigine is not performing 100%.

Anyone knows a good mechanic with experience in this kind of bikes and the tools to do the job?

As I am living at the Eastern Seaboard it would be nice to find one in the area, but otherwise BKK would be OK also.

With good mechanic I do not mean Somchai who drops all parts on the floor of the shop-house and uses a hammer to get the cylinder head of.

And while I am here ..... doen anyone know where to buy a Real Ozzy helmet in size M?

Just was at the Kawasaki shop at Sukhumvit but they only sell L and XL while Real makes them also in XS, S and M (would actually be a good helmet for my wide also).

Finally today 30 June 2010 I personally did pickup my license-plate at the DLT head-office in Bangkok and I did get the tax certificate, the receipt and copy of the green-book with all correct data (brand-name, frame-number, color, age, engine-number, number of cylinders, cc) and of course on page 16 the paid road tax and on page 18 de statement that excise tax has been paid and that the bike has been approved by TISI.

Total application at DLT costs 740thb plus 100thb tax.

I did see the orginal green-book, but it seems that it will take another week to get that book. Why? I do not know or understand.

Here an update of getting a legal Green Book for my motorbike. About a year ago I bought a Yamaha XT250x for a reasonable price knowing that this price did not include a Green-Book. Of course I also knew that this was a “spare-part imported motorbike”. But it came with full import-papers and import-duties were paid and the shop-owner promised me to arrange a legal Green-Book for me for a price of about 35k (which later changed to 50-60k). Well after a half year he still not had even tested the bike, and as I did not pay him anything it was easy to forget him. Reminder to myself : Never do business with him again!

Via internet I did meet Mark who represented himself as “Big Bike Cycles” but in reality was working together with a motorbike shop in Lam Lukha in Bangkok named “On Road Bike”. A shop where I had been before and altogether it looks to me like a trustful straight forward business. They are selling mainly chopper bikes. They offered me to take care of obtaining a legal Green-Book for my motorbike for 75k excluding the to be paid excise tax.

Mid November 2009 I decided to business with them and they promised me that all together it would take about 3 months before I would receive my legal Green Book.

With a legal Green Book I mean a real Green Book (not a copy or a recycled one) where is mentioned at page 18 that the excise tax has been paid and that the bike has been tested and approved.

There would be 6 steps within about 3 months

1 Doing the emission test that would costs about 28k

2 Apply for setting the value of the motorbike

3 Paying the excise tax (3% of the value of the motorbike)

4 Apply for the Green Book (which actually costs about 1500,- thb?)

5 After 1 month: Receiving the number/license-plate

6 Two (2) weeks later: Receiving the Green Book

Although steps 1 to 4 seems to be processed (although on a bit different time-frame) step 5 & 6 are still in the pipe-line. It took a bit longer but the bike was finally tested end of December 2009 and begin January 2010 I finally received proof of the fact that the bike has been tested and approved.

In the meanwhile Mark left Thailand and finally at end of March I did receive proof of setting the value of my motorbike at 215.000,- thb over what I have to pay 3% tax (plus VAT over the tax and duty stamp). One (1) week later I did receive proof of paying the excise tax of 7.124,- thb.

Now all the papers are ready to apply for the Green-Book and within 5-6 weeks I would receive my new license-plate and 2 weeks after that I would receive my Green-Book.

Well at 8 may 2010 the date for receiving my new license-plate has been delayed due to “slow working of the government” and is now set for “before 20 May 2010”. Unfortunately a mini-civil-war in Bangkok and upcountry closed all DLT’s in that week so still no License-Plate or Green-Book.

At 27 May 2010 I was just wondering what was happening as I received a call from the motorbike-shop that my “Certificate of Address” was expired (yeah of course I got it at November 2009!) so they needed a new one. I did send them a copy of my Yellow-House-Book, and I was promised that Monday 31 May 2010 I will hear when I will receive my License-Plate & Green-Book.

Nevertheless how this story end I think I will not go this route again for getting a motorbike with a legal Green Book. Nowadays there other options, although I think that BMW or KTM are too expensive in Thailand and big bike Kawasaki’s are not really very well build. And I am not into racing bikes like Yamaha or Suzuki. It is too bad that due to a tax system (of which some Thai family clan’s benefit mostly) people living in Thailand have a very poor choice of cars & motorbikes. And those Thai clan’s benefit so much that they can effort themselves easily to privately import whatever they like to ride.