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    Bangkok Should Have Escaped The Threat Of Being Flooded

    in Thailand News

    Posted

    This is by far the best report I've seen. I am really pleased that the river is flowing at 4,000 cu m/sec, last week the river was at 4,500 cu m/sec, there is a plan in place and a back up plan, the dam is stabilized and the tides will only be .2m higher the next week from this week. Don't forget when you are in 'war mode' you take in as much information as you can to become familiar with the current situation from the experts in charge and get the information out. I would probably say that the gentleman in the report, should be next to PM Yingluck in the flood center. I am also very happy that PM Yingluck has asked for other suggestions/input from more experienced people. That is a sign of a PM that will do good for the country and she is learning and understanding. I agree that the PM was late to react, but I feel that her technical adviser's failed to let her know the actual situation (or possibly her lack asking the proper questions to understand the severity due to her lack of experience). This will make the PM stronger, since she has experienced first hand what happens when you don't ask the right questions, have plans in place, projects to address the issues and react late. Since it has been accepted by many people as 'normal', I just hope PM Yingluck doesn't accept flooding as 'normal' and I hope she doesn't just want to 'survive' through the flooding.

    my 2 cents for the day....

    Are There Any Areas Safe From Flooding In Bangkok

    in Bangkok

    Posted · Edited by scorpio2369

    Yeah, I just don't want to be stuck in my condo with no power, water, etc. For a week. If someone here knows of a place outside of Bangkok I would just head there. Can't pay 2,0000 baht a night, unless I have to. Big Hotels have generators, but if they are under water they are no good either.

    Don't know the lay of the land because I have only been here 3 years. If you were to ask me about the same in Atlanta, GA where I am from I could tell you exactly where not to be. Usually there seems to be some fairly knowledgeable people on the forum about things like this. If I leave the country I will need to go to Chaeng Wattana and get a re-entry permit. Suppose to pick up my Visa based on Marriage to a Thai on Friday also.

    There are many cars and homes under water to the North, and they had a fair amount of warning. I am just trying to be proactive about the situation.

    Cheers,

    Alan,

    Good choice

    Thailand Beefs Up Airport Flood Defences

    in Thailand News

    Posted

    ...and the airport was built inside of a flood plain intended to specifically collect flood waters.

    Let's not forget that there is also a very large underground river that flows directly underneath the airport !

    Thank Thaksin for this one !

    Thank Taksin for what?

    The airport?

    The underground river?

    The flood?

    There are thousands people loosing their houses and swimming in flood for their lives. Who cares about an f***ing airport???

    This topis IS about the airport and it WILL affect tourism if its flooded.

    Yes, topic is the airport, not your political view. Everything that happens in Thailand affects the tourism. Even if the airport is not flooded directly, no passenger will be able to come to or to leave the airport if the whole area is flooded.

    What is this for a mysterious "river in the underground"? Where does it come from, where does it go? Can you provide a link to some information? Thanks.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suvarnabhumi_Airport

    granted its wiki..so it can be somewhat inaccurate

    but it is the only place i have found that has a wealth of information

    :rolleyes:

    Has Bkk Ever Flooded Out?

    in Suvarnabhumi Airport Forum

    Posted

    Just some information on the pumping capacity of BKK airport

    Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport flood prevention systems operational

    September 23, 2011 | Filed under: Bangkok | Posted by: AIT BKK BANGKOK, 23 September 2011 (NNT) – Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport is preparing for the possible rise in water levels around the airport as the water runoff from the North continues to increase.

    The Airports of Thailand (AoT) has sent a team of officers to inspect the areas around the airport and concluded that the current water levels do not pose a threat.

    AoT further added Bangkok and its surrounding provinces could be in for possible inland flooding as heavy rains had been forecast this weekend in the Northeast.

    The authority may try to relieve the inundation by allowing the runoff to flow into rivers which are going to Bangkok and Samut Prakan before reaching the ocean.

    According to the AoT, there are 8 water stations to the south of the airport which could relieve as much as 30 million cubic meters of water per day. The Airport has the flood prevention system in place which includes small reservoirs and 3 meter high flood walls.

    There are also canals surrounding the reservoirs to help maintain the safe level of water. The AoT added later that should the water rise significantly, the Department of Royal Irrigation would begin to drain and release the water to the south of the airport.

    Has Bkk Ever Flooded Out?

    in Suvarnabhumi Airport Forum

    Posted

    :whistling:

    We just can't say for certain...but the way to the airport is mostly elevated...and it should be okay.

    Just keep watching the news and asking anyone you can that might know the answer to that question.

    October is the rainy season, and it's always possible to have a heavy thunderstorm that dumps a lot of rain in a 30 minute period.

    Central Bangkok is drained by a system of pumps that are used to pump flood water out of that area...so today there is little long-term flooding in Bangkok itself. But it's always possible that a heay rain storm can temporarily overload the pump system...so you get local flash flooding in low lieing parts of the city.

    Normally the pumps drain that out after a few hours at the most.

    I don't know, but I assume that they have installed a similar system at the airport.

    I think your chances are pretty good.

    You weren't lucky in your chice of dates however. Those dates are also going to coincide with the monthly highest tides (based on the moon) so that means if there is a heavy rain it's going to be harder to pump that water into the river...which will be affected by the high tide where it empties into the sea south of Bangkok.

    :unsure:

    TRAFFIC delays on the way to the airport if it rains heavily....that is another natter...so give yourself plenty of time to get there...don't count on a schedule.

    IMA,

    Thank you for your knowledge, it does help out. Yes I know the dates are terrible, but what can I do (I planned this in May). But I did find some interesting numbers in an news story, I will post. I understand heavy rains, but there is nothing that shows what is predicted (7 Billion cubic meters of water heading to Bangkok), can be handled by the systems installed. I wish someone would tell it by the numbers daily, so an outsider can make a sensible logical decision on 'is it really safe' to travel.

    Plan To Evacuate Parts Of Bangkok

    in Thailand News

    Posted

    Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport flood prevention systems operational

    September 23, 2011 | Filed under: Bangkok | Posted by: AIT BKK BANGKOK, 23 September 2011 (NNT) – Bangkok Suvarnabhumi Airport is preparing for the possible rise in water levels around the airport as the water runoff from the North continues to increase.

    The Airports of Thailand (AoT) has sent a team of officers to inspect the areas around the airport and concluded that the current water levels do not pose a threat.

    AoT further added Bangkok and its surrounding provinces could be in for possible inland flooding as heavy rains had been forecast this weekend in the Northeast.

    The authority may try to relieve the inundation by allowing the runoff to flow into rivers which are going to Bangkok and Samut Prakan before reaching the ocean.

    According to the AoT, there are 8 water stations to the south of the airport which could relieve as much as 30 million cubic meters of water per day. The Airport has the flood prevention system in place which includes small reservoirs and 3 meter high flood walls.

    There are also canals surrounding the reservoirs to help maintain the safe level of water. The AoT added later that should the water rise significantly, the Department of Royal Irrigation would begin to drain and release the water to the south of the airport.

    http://www.thailandnews.co/2011/09/bangkok-suvarnabhumi-airport-flood-prevention-systems-operational/

    Plan To Evacuate Parts Of Bangkok

    in Thailand News

    Posted

    Bangkok prepares evacuation plan in case of high flooding

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    BANGKOK, Oct 9 – The Bangkok Metropolitan Administration (BMA) plans to use schools as temporary shelters in case the city is hit by flooding, said Bangkok governor Sukhumbhand Paribatra, adding that press conferences on water levels are to be made twice daily.

    Emergency evacuation plans for residents living in Bangkok's 27 water-prone communities in 13 districts have been prepared and rehearsed.

    Any evacuation in Bangkok is to be in cooperation with Bangkok Medical Emergency Service Centre (Erawan) and the Department of Education (Bangkok Metropolitan Administration) to set up temporary evacuation centres in public schools of the capital.

    The governor affirmed City Hall was still capable of handling the situation and asked people not to panic.

    Chief district officers, particularly those responsible for areas outside dykes and risky areas in the east such as Min Buri, Nong Chok, Khlong Sam Wa, are to make their own decisions regarding logistics of sleeping and eating for evacuees.

    BMA is also planning to provide another one million sandbags, from the existing stock of two million, to prepare for high tides on Oct 15-18.

    Drainage and Sewerage Department director Sanya Cheenimit said the water situation in the Thai capital was worrying and needed to be closely monitored.

    The water flow at Chao Phraya and Rama VI Dams reached 4,943 cubic metres/second on Sunday, an increase of 22 cubic metres/second from Saturday.

    According to Mr Sanya, the water levels passing through Bangkok's Rama XIII Bridge stood at 4,000 cubic metres/second and Saturday night's highest water level was recorded at 2.03 metres.

    The capital's dykes can handle water as high as 2.50-3.00 metres.

    Meanwhile, Emergency Operation Center for Flood, Storm and Landslide on Sunday reported flooding remains in 30 provinces and fatalities reached 253 with four missing.

    The Centre warned of widespread rain in all regions and heavy rain in some areas. Local residents in 12 provinces – Ayutthaya, Pathum Thani, Nonthaburi, Bangkok, Nakhon Nayok, Nakhon Pathom, Ratchaburi, Phetchaburi, Chonburi, Rayong, Chantaburi and Trat – residing near waterways have been alerted of flooding.

    The situation in lower central provinces, particularly Pathum Thani, Nonthaburi and Bangkok is also worrying as the water level is likely to increase due to the inundation from Ayutthaya.

    Each province is warned to be ready to handle high levels of water. (MCOT online news)

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    -- TNA 2011-10-09

    Lite,

    Thank you for a great post, some good numbers inside. That is the type of numbers we do need.....

    Flooding In Bangkok?

    in Bangkok

    Posted

    Opening the transcript of this link states that there is 7 billion cubic meters of water heading towards Bangkok. Gulp.

    Holy Crap!!!

    THAT'S OVER 1.8 TRILLION GALLONS OF WATER!!!!!

    The system in place can only remove 1 Million cubic meters/day!

    I hope to god or budda that reuters estimates are wrong, if NOT....it WILL FLOOD OUT BANGKOK!!

    Plan To Evacuate Parts Of Bangkok

    in Thailand News

    Posted

    I don't know if this road has ever been flooded, wish I could help. I also can't answer your question on travel to BKK the week of the 13-19, just keep up on the news bulletins is my best advice.

    The worst flooding I've ever seen in Bangkok was in 1983. Most of Bangkok was flooded for 2 months, with Ramkamhaeng U. being underwater and therefore closed for 3 months. Water over the roofs of many of the buildings on campus. We're not anywhere near the 1983 levels of flooding in Bangkok, at least not yet...

    I didn't check back that far, I only looked at 1995 and on, especially around 2006-2010. There is a bunch of reports that analyzied the flood and say what needs to be done, I will find out what levels in 1983 were are talking about. Have you ever seen BKK airport flood out?

    Thanks your you input it helps.

    Plan To Evacuate Parts Of Bangkok

    in Thailand News

    Posted

    The two motorways form Bangkok to the South East towards Chonburi, (either side of the airport), are they likely to be closed?

    The Bangna-Trat (south) motorway is 15 metres above ground ... so there isn't much chance of it closing.

    The Bangkok-Chonburi motorway (north) looked ok on Friday, with the water needing to come up a long way before it was in trouble.

    Whybother-

    Can you tell me if Route 7 (krungthep-chon buri new line/thanon rama ix) is elevated? From what I see it looks like elevated in some areas and not in some. Has this road ever been closed due to flooding in your experience? What is your opinion on travel to BKK during the week of 13-19? Has Bangkok ever been flooded completely out? What is the worse that you have seen. I am struggling to find answers to see if it will be safe to travel.

    Has Bkk Ever Flooded Out?

    in Suvarnabhumi Airport Forum

    Posted

    I have tried to find out if BKK has ever flooded out during the recent notable floods that may have caused delays(2010, 2011), anybody experience delays due to flooding? The latest story on which provinces are suspected to flood in bangkok, one of the provinces mentions is Lat Krabang. I show this province near BKK on the north side. I am flying into BKK on the 13-19th, but my concern is will I be able to fly out? Any good information would be helpful.

    1,000 Boats To Push Flood Waters From Chao Phraya River

    in Thailand News

    Posted

    QUOTE

    "Building of dykes and drainage: Existing dykes can cope with flood water at a level of 2.5 metres, and water flow of 3,000-3,500 cubic metres per second, with drainage capacity of 60 millimetres per hour.

    Dykes

    In eastern Bangkok:

    A total of 72 kilometres of dykes have been built at royal initiative

    Along the Chao Phraya River and the Bangkok Noi and Maha Sawas canals:

    To contain water from the North and rising seawater, 75.8km have been built of a planned 77km, with the remaining sections expected to be completed this year. The dykes can contain flood water at a level of 2.5 metres, while the unfinished sections will do so at 2-2.5 metres.

    Drainage operations:

    More sewers and dredging of canals; pumping stations have been readied

    Mobile-pumping units (1,152 operational)

    Giant tunnels

    21 catchment areas

    95 BEST units comprising 700 officials are on standby

    Coordination centre is active.

    End QUOTE.

    if this is all in place and fully operational, then WHY would someone think that a 1,000 boats could be better then this? Something does not add up......

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