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3 hours ago, cocoonclub said:

Moving abroad as PR?

 

Is it possible to move abroad (leave Thailand) as a PR as long as you get your re-entry endorsement and don’t stay abroad for more than a year a time? Or would there be an issue with that house registration or simply because you’re not really a permanent resident anymore? 

No issues whatsoever, just keep returning before your re entry permit expiring day, get a new re entry for another year and leave again. You can do it all your life.

1 hour ago, scorecard said:

I add a little more. In the converstion/interview I mentioned just above (25 years ago) the Immigration officer never mentioned or hinted in any way anything re tea money and it was not mentioned or hinted at by myself or my agent. My agent was very thorough and very ethical with a solid reputation for no involvement in scams or shady dealings, my belief is that he would have forewarned me in advance if there was a need to have some 'strategy' ready re tea money. My agent never mentioned it in any way at any time. 

 

Further; yes I used an agent, however I add the following. I was working with a Thai lady who was a qualified chemical process engineer and a senior member of the business development commitee of the national petroleum authority. Her husband had worked for the same company (both had worked for my company for several years in the US).  A couple of years after they returned to Thailand he became restless re employment and decided to start his own business with himself as the front man and his wife behind the scenes because she was a senior exec. of her employing company.

 

She asked me one day in the office "Are you interested in applying for PR?" I responded "Yes I am, but right now I'm not sure how to proceed." Her response "My husband (who I by this stage knew quite well) wants to start an agency / a consultancy focus on foreigners gaining PR and later focus on gaining citizenship.

 

If you're willing he would like you to be his first customer, but because it's a learning exercise for him he would charge you a very small fee."

 

I thought about it for a few hours then agreed and he got started. As it all proceeded I was well aware that he was putting a lot of time and effort into getting it right, as per Thai Immigration requirement/policies/procedures.

 

Given that it was also a learning exercise for me, I now believe that I could have done it myself, but it would have taken many many hours of additinal work and seaching on my part.

 

Bottom line; I'm very happy I used an agent. 

 

The twist; just after my PR was approved my agent and his Thai wife both received an excellent job oportunity to both return to the company HO in the states. The job/future/reward level was something they couldn't refuse, both working in the global strategic policy development area, they both accepted and quickly returned to the US.

 

 

Thank you for the detailed insight and really seems that it was a masterstroke to use an agent, but they were an exception, not the norm, of the agents available currently.

Out of curiosity, were you able to reinstate your PR since you were out of the country during COVID? If yes, if you could tell your experience here, may help somebody else on the same situation.

Hi Guys,

Is the Re-Entry Permit office at Don Muang Airport still working these days? If so, what's the location of it? Before immigration or after immigration?

No. Permanent residents are still required to register for Thailand Pass and with appropriate insurance.

52 minutes ago, ecline said:

So I just did this in June of last year. Like another poster said, SB gave me an embassy letter that another US applicant got from the embassy in Bangkok. I took that to the consulate and Chiang Mai and they basically duplicated it. The letter said something like "The US embassy cannot speak to the intentions of its citizens and therefore cannot issue a letter saying Mr. XXX intends to renounce his citizenship". I am paraphrasing, but that is the gist of it. The SB in Bangkok would not accept me simply saying that the US consulate won't issue such a letter. They insisted on me getting a letter from the consulate/embassy. The consulate didn't charge me for the letter either. I was shocked. Of course they charged me for ther verified passport copy though.

Tomorrow I'll go to the same process at BKK embassy. For the verified passport copy, do they copy the original passport themselves and verify it? Or they verify the copy which comes with santiban letter addressed to them?

14 hours ago, grain said:

Used to go there often, drive my car in, do our PPs, do the papers for my car, then drive down to SR. One of our most favorite holidays, used to go a couple times a year. Looking forward to doing it again sometime soon.

What's the procedure to take your thai car in to o smach ? 

1 minute ago, Marcati said:

The intention of renunciation of citizenship. This was the sealed letter from SB.

They also send some documents to your embassy that verifies if your passport is genuine etc, this is what the SB guy was telling me yesterday as I went there. I am applying citizenship along with my minor children, one of whom is a US citizen, and the SB guy was telling me that he'll prepare letters for the embassy, for them to verify the passport etc. I am assuming I would need to take this sealed letter to the US embassy myself, but as you are saying that the sealed letter includes just the intention of renunciation, which in my minor child , certainly shouldn't be the case.

15 hours ago, Marcati said:

I guess so because when I showed up with the sealed letters from the SB and presented it to them they said they don't get involved with any application of US citizens to apply for citizenship in another country and would not stamp, sign or provide any document for me to return to SB.

 

They asked if I wanted to renounce my US citizenship and if so they would be prepared to move forward with that process only.

That's a new information for me. Did they refuse to accept sealed letters from SB as such, which asks them to verify if your passport is genuine etc?
Or it was just the intention of renunciation on affidavit which they were not willing to do?

On 4/10/2022 at 11:45 AM, gettingby said:

I am an American long time resident in Thailand with with PR for more than 5 years already and looking to apply for Thai citizenship.  I believe I have all qualifications requirements for tax, language, references, etc covered and can complete the paperwork/intervies; however I am still unclear on the requirements for providing evidence of renouncing  my usa citizenship.  Is that still a requirement?  and if so how to go about that.  Especially as the USA embassy post covid has become very difficult/cumbersome to get appointments/docs/certifications/notarization/etc from.  

 

Anyone with recent experience on how to get through this?  I contacted SB several years ago and was told I was more than  qualified but then I got hung up trying to figure out what I needed to show (from an uninterested and unfriendly embassy) my intent to revoke, and pretty much gave up in frustration - and then covid hit.  ready to try again.  any advice much appreciated.

It's just the intent to revoke. You just write on the affidavit of the US embassy that you intent to renounce your US citizenship once you become thai citizen, put any wording bla bla bla and the consular officer will stamp and sign that's it. It's just an intent which may change, you are not actually renouncing your US citizenship. You got nothing to lose here. It's just a cumbersome requirement imposed by the nationality department to inform embassies of certain countries who don't allow dual citizenship.

5 hours ago, aussiexpat said:

Pleasant surprise from Jomtien today. I read on here the first covid extension was from the date of application, while following extensions would apply from date of expiry.

 

However, I applied on 3 March and picked up my final stamp today granted until 13 May (so full 60 days from my 14 March exempt extension date). Nice extra 2 weeks I didn't think I'd get ????

What documents you needed to produce? Was TM30 required? Embassy letter required?

I would like to know if there are any good hospitals/schools who diagnose autism and offer therapies in Bangkok. I have searched the forum but didn't find much info. I'll be thankful for info.

On 12/28/2021 at 6:56 AM, sinthavee said:

Thank you David143 brother. Once I have my CT, I will straight away Good to the district office & take appointment for ID card issue. Being a PR holder, I have my name in blue book & to that extent my ID issue procedure will be shorter.

Hope, I will be able to get my Thai ID at least by 2nd week Jan.

 

Thank you very much for your valuable & useful advice. I would also like to thank GabbaGabbaHey for his useful posts as well. 
Wishing you & your family, a very Happy,Prosperous New Year & Good Health.

 

Congrats. Did you have to sing both national anthems as being a PR? Or did you apply based on thai wife? I am also a PR and will apply in next year.

3 minutes ago, Arkady said:

Having been through both processes, my opinion is that, apart from the higher cost, citizenship is a much easier and more friendly process than PR.  As time goes by the PR process seems to get harder and nastier at a more rapid rate than citizenship, even though the latter also gets harder and, indeed, adopts some of the innovations introduced into the PR process, albeit at a slower rate.  Although both processes are under the Interior Ministry which makes the ultimate decisions, the big difference is that Immigration handles applications for PR and Special Branch handles applications for citizenship.  At Special Branch in Bangkok the two citizenship sections (there is a separate one just to handle applications from foreign women with Thai husbands) are an oddity unrelated to Special Branch's normal duties and officers enjoy a posting there as light relief.  They like interacting with foreign applicants and generally seem to want you to get through.  The PR sections at Immigration are also plum postings, due to the relatively light work load, but dealing with foreigners is no novelty for Immigration officers and the culture there promotes suspicion of foreigners.

suspicion plus if possible, milking of foreigners as much as possible. lol.

17 hours ago, scorecard said:

Not that I am aware of?

 

I check the Thai Immigration Bureau facebook page carefully every day and up to today I've not seen any further announcements and I hope I haven't missed any facebook messages.

 

With all respect please don't assume that I have any 'inside' information on this subject; I don't!

 

Please don't see me as an authority or expert on this subject, I'm not. I sincerely request that you please follow up yourself.

 

And if you do find further information/details/announcements please share. 

 

One sidepoint:

I somehow doubt that the Thai Immigration Bureau will fix a final date for PR holders to return soon considering all the current issues and problems. But I have no facts etc., to base this on, just a wild guess. 

To be on the safe side, if PR is something very important for someone that he can't afford to lose it, I suggest jumping all the hoops and don't let it lapse. Thailand immigration and other authorities are usually found to be taking their words back and forth with unclear definitions as in such.

On another note, does some one have any info for the amnesty which PR holders enjoy currently once out of country for more than 1 year? Has someone gotten to use this amnesty and restore their PR status successfully?

I was also on the same batch of PR approvals as thaijames so more than 5 years now on PR already. But currently I am out of country and will apply for citizenship once I arrive back in Thailand. Probably early next year. I am also not married to a thai so will be applying solely on basis of 5 years PR

6 hours ago, GarryP said:

 

I have paid in Baht 214,594, so I believe it would make more sense drawing the pension than cashing out,  assuming that they will continue to pay the pension after that sum has already been used.  It will pay me a pension of Baht5,500 for 39 months or 3 years and 5 months. Any payments after that period will be out of the government pocket, and I do not plan kicking the bucket until I'm into my eighties, so they will end up having to pay me considerably more. If I live until I am 80, they will have to pay me an additional 1,122,000 Baht, which is pretty good. 

 

Now having said that, I will probably find out that they will cut me off once my portion has been paid out.  

How do they calculate the monthly payment, which in your case it's 5xxx baht and more/month? sounds pretty good

4 hours ago, david143 said:

this is true, but we still don;t know how long it will took them send Data to RG.
MOI still not send Data to RG office for upload.

my WP will expire on 04 July, i am really worried now due to lock down and covid we are working from home.

I wouldn't take the risk of it expiring as it just costs 3000 baht to extend for 1 more year. Citizenship is far more worthwhile to be risking it for such as paltry sum of money

I am also a PR and returned to thailand, buying a covid policy which was valid until my re entry expired and I didn't have any problems at all. (In my case my re entry was expiring shortly i.e. less than 30 days left on that, so I bought just 1 month covid policy and entered without any problems whatsoever with getting a COE and final entry in thailand)

Smallers Kids don't get overstay fines and no other reprecussions at all. So you don't need to extend their visas if you wish so. However, if you want to be technically correct and still wanna do the extensions for them, your choice. If that so, all of you have to present yourselves in front of extension officer and give pictures and fingerprints. No exemption to this.

On the other hand, Only your 14 year old kid and yourself will need to go and do the extension at immigration.

On 3/12/2021 at 4:37 AM, THAIJAMES said:

Thanks, I waited 8 years for them to process my PR application. If they can cut that time in half for Citizenship I will be happy.  55555

Lol. My wait was 6 years. Let's see how long our citizenship applications take. Fingers crossed

10 hours ago, THAIJAMES said:

It's been 6 years. I should have all the documents ready in about a month and submit then.

I'll also be applying probably by June/July. Let's see how our applications go this time.