54hudson262

Here's an opportunity to win favour with your neighbours and regain your peace and quiet. Offer to provide a safe overnight sleeping facility for your neighbours "prized and valuable" cocks. Who knows, a snake or some other predator might attack during the night. Or, a competitor or some other disgruntled local resident might try and steal or , heaven forbid, kill the bird. For a rooster to be able to crow he must be able to stand and stretch his neck skyward..........if you put him in a box that is not high enough to do this, he can't crow........he just sits and sits and sits and sits....until someone lets him out. If you were to provide your neighbour with a wooden crate with a wire mesh front his prized birds would sleep safely all night and you will too. Good luck.

Hi all, If I have offended anyone, please, accept my apologies. I have re-read what I wrote several times, and, I agree, I could have worded it better. All I was trying to say was that if you are able to help in any way, we would be very appreciative. Cheers.

Hi all. "Thank you's" are in order!!!

Firstly, kandahar - for the time and effort taken to organise the run and for keeping an open mind from the word go.

To all the other members who went on the ride to the orphanage, plus their wives/partners/gf's - thanks for the positive feedback and comments made on this Forum since your return.

The thread has morphed from one of concern, doubt and inuendo to one of positive vibes.

You've all now found a "cause" worthy of some support. If you can find it in your hearts and pockets to help them out you'll be doing your little bit to make the world a better place and the few others who are already there helping, will be appreciative of a "lightening of the load".

Cheers

54Hudson262.

PS - You're right - the pigs will be supplementing the kids' diet, but as for BBQ-ing Lizard, I wouldn't, ........... it will leave a really bad taste in your mouth!!!!!!

Hi. I'm a TA forum member and now a Thai Visa forum contributor, having stumbled across this thread today. There seems to be some misinformation in the earlier posts. I can speak with some authority - my wife and I contribute money every month and purchased some of the appliances mentioned in an earlier post. We have been to El Shadai Orphanage several times and are returning in April 2011. We have made this commitment on the basis of research we undertook to verify the bona fides of the couple who run the orphanage - Mon and Surasak, and there's never been any suspicion whatsover with regard to their intentions. On the contrary. They are amongst the very few people we have come across who actually live by what most people would call "Christian values". The orphanage started basically by accident. One child needed a home and Mon & Surasak opened theirs. Then there was another child, and another, and another and eventually children were being brought in from outlying villages by concerned villagers who knew the children were in need of care. The villagers knew Surasak & Mon were prepared to take on these poor, unfortunate children, regardless of how many children they already had in their care, so the children just kept on coming. The orphanage is still "hand to mouth". Always running short of basics like rice, tooth paste, soap etc. There are very, very few regular contributors but a lot of "casual" ones who also help put food on the table and a roof over the heads of vulnerable children. My wife and I have spent a great deal of time at the orphanage and have never seen nor heard anything of Patty Wolfe. Perhaps the different spellng of the orphanage name, (El Shaddai with two "d's") is a clue to the confusion and possibly the connections of this particular person? I don't know whether the Government pays money to schools or not but bear in mind these kids don't go to a Government school. They go to a Christian school run by an American mission organisation. So if there is money for school children, they are unlikely to qualify. The suggestion that Surasak and Mon are "brainwashing vulnerable kids" beggars belief. If sending them to a school funded by a religious organisation constitutes brainwashing then millions and millions of Catholics, Jews, Muslims, Hindus - the list goes, are also "brainwashing" their children. If any one wants to help this orphanage, feel free to message me and I will be happy to tell you how to go about it. If you are in Chiang Rai and you want to visit the kids....just ask any cab or tuk tuk driver to take you there.......it's no secret, nor is it the exclusive domain of any one guide.....any guide will take you there. Cheers.