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23 minutes ago, steve187 said:
ok the answer as i see it is
a - build a makro next door to the op
b - build an exception into the new regulation for the op and his like
c - prevent his competitors from being allowed to shop in Thailand
d - move the border making the nearest Thai post office inside Cambodia
e - Learn to live with it or work on a work around
another point i can see is how do immigration know the op is not working whilst in Thailand, and if he/she is buying supplies for the business then maybe the op is in fact working
just my thoughts on the subject
LOL
... what's the op?
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18 minutes ago, Lamkyong said:
long stay tourists who live on 5000 baht per month ???i have a small band of people that fall into the friend category also long stay i am sure non of them come into your 5k a month statement where do you meet these people ??
10 years ago after I failed my business and before I could sell what was left of it, I had to stay on that budget for nearly 2 years. It's possible... you grow skinny I can tell you.
And before that I had ever seen people in that situation, with many years overstay. Back then it was pretty easy to pay your way out every few years when a check came along. Thanks God, whatever He might be, that I could collect myself up from these times.- 1
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Just now, dbrenn said:When I first came to Thailand, it was a great place for small potatoes. The interesting mix of people you used to meet here was one of the good things about living here. Rule changes over the past few years are driving most of them away.
I understand if they are trying to protect themselves from people who would come to Thailand and work illegally or make dodgy business. They do a better job than most European nations to protect their people. Also they may have decided to remove the cheap long stay tourists who live on 5000 baht per month and who, in their mind, bring the image of the country down for the upscale tourism they want. It is their choice, their country after all. But in my situation, far from everything except Chanthaburi, I really feel trapped in the cross fire and it's very frustrating. If they have Asean, then they have to recognise the legality of work permit holders in other Asean countries and not handicap us. My competitors are also buying products in Thailand and this ends up being unfair practice... "no, the Farang has the right to work here but can't get supplies like his counterparts".
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40 minutes ago, dbrenn said:
I don't think they'd give it to a small potato like me anyway.
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1 minute ago, gamini said:
You could get a retirement Visa in Thailand and then a multiple re-entry permit. That would solve your problem because you can travel back and forward as many times as you like
I'll probably do that when the age and finances allow it
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Just now, dbrenn said:
I understand your frustration. Visa laws are annoying. Would you qualify for an APEC card? The intention of the APEC scheme is to facilitate frequent short business trips.
I have no clue of What an APEC card is and how to apply, but I will look into it.
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The multiple entry tourist visa could be a temporary solution but there is a limit of how many you can get per year right? And it's also a bother we don't need... only to go shopping a couple of days per month... And the Embassy is 600km away, it's a week lost and unnecessary expenses.
I wish I could find the right person to explain the case withing the Thai authorities because this is a life changing measure for no reason at all from our point of view here. They would just need to allow holders of an Asean work permit to enter Thailand as many times as they want as long as we stay under X number of days per year, like it was until now without having to show anything. They never bothered us as long as we stayed in Thailand less than 90 days per year... which was even too long... I think I stay 20 to 30 days in Thailand every year... and only to go shopping... what the heck!!
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LOL, the Thai Interior Ministry website http://www.moi.go.th/ returns
502 Bad Gateway
2.0.0 Good start...
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7 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:
You would have to send a letter to the interior minister and/or the prime minister about the ministerial regulation (it is not a law) they approved..
Translation of it is here: Visa Exempt Rules Dec 2016.pdf
Topic about it is here.
Thanks for your reply. Any idea on how to contact the right person/department in the interior ministry? I guess if I follow contact info on their website it's just going to be a loss of time as usual.
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I live and work in Cambodia, next to the Thai border, and last week the Thai immigration told me that next year we can cross the border by road only twice.
I have sent an email to the Thai immigration (see below), but about this I have 2 questions for the community:
1/ Do you know the right people to contact and their email address? The contact form on the immigration website is not working and there is no obvious way to contact them.
2/ What do you think about this case and if you know people who are connected to the immigration authorities could you engage conversations about this topic?
Here's what I wrote to them using email addresses I could gather on google (most of which returned errors):
"Greetings from Cambodia,
I would like to contact Immigration authorities in order to explain the problem that the new laws next year give me and a few foreigners who live in Cambodia and need to go to Thailand for short stays.
I am French and I live in Cambodia, in Pailin, 15km from the Thai border (Ban Pakad, Chanthaburi).
I have a work permit here and I need to go to Thailand by road in average once per month, for periods of stay from 1 to 3 days Max. I go to Chanthaburi to Post office (better than Cambodia), to the Bank to get money from overseas (because I used to live in Thailand over 10 years before, now 6 in Cambodia, I have bank account there), to buy things I need for me and for my job in the Chanthaburi market or in Makro... etc...
Now I am told that next year I can go to Thailand only 2 times by road and it is a big problem in my life and for a few other Expatriates here.
Of course we can't make business visas because it is very expensive and also we should not need one, we don't go to work or make money in Thailand, only to spend, and we stay max 3 days per months or every 2 months. Also we live near the border so it's not easy to go to Phnom Penh and make visas each time. Same problem to go from here to Chanthaburi by plane, Chanthaburi is only 95Km from here.
I was wondering if I could suggest Thai officials to make special rules for foreigners who have a work permit in Cambodia to have the possibility to go 3 days per month to Thailand by road.
If you are interested in looking into this issue I am happy to provide you with copies of my Cambodia work permit and of my passport stamps to show you that I don't stay in Thailand more than 40 days per year, but need to go each month.
It'd be great if there was some special rule for people in my case who can prove that we don't try to cheat the system to stay in Thailand, but we need to go buy things there and use post office and bank (that's where I get my money from France, that's where my clients send me the money).
I hope this letter will help make better immigration rules for us who are honest and legal residents in Asean and need to conduct normal and legal activities.
Hoping to read you,
Kind Regards,
Françoise Dupont (That is not my real name, I changed it for public posting on Thaivisa.com)"To conclude, I guess they won't care about our particular cases, but it can't hurt to pass the subject around, by extreme luck it may fall in the ear of somebody who has a sense of equity and the means to do something about it.
Merry Christmas and Happy new year to you all!!
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So the overstay ones will have to go home and change their passport, it's good for the paper industry... and the wash machine detergent retailers.
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Apes and monkeys are not same-same.
Follow the recent American trend - inclusion is the key to minimizing the impact of monkeys on people and visa-versa.
Thai monkeys cannot be bad for Thais.
If you feed them well enough - they will be discouraged from foraging.
Time to think - "What did we do to make monkeys happier?"
If I was living in an area where monkeys start to settle, why would it be my responsibility to make them happy and feed them well? Or to pay taxes for that? I dont accept racketeering from humans, I wouldnt start with monkeys.
relocation to REAL and large reserves where tourism is completely banned and poaching REALLY prevented is the only sensible approach. Reserves where not even scientists and doctors try to play God in order to allow a natural echosystem do settle. It would be the cheapest and most effective solution, but ot is not in the modern human habits to find that giving up control is a solution to anything.
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Difficult to judge this situation from a condo downtown. Anyone who lived near monkeys knows what hell they bring, constantly. thay are thieving vandals, very aggressive as well. Youd be better off with a rats invasion. Some spieces are simply not made to coexist.
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Dont be duped, this was a fake terror attacked destined to tighten the grip of the system on the people even further and bring us one step closer to a profitable (for some) global war on Islam.
Meanwhile france has now completed its own little patriot act and democracy is turning into a dictatorship of classes in a round of applauds.
Wake up people!
We are so near the caricatural model described in 1984 that i am wondering when the 3rd player of the permanent war, probably china, with or against india, will start to make its move.
Meanwhile democracies in the weat are rotten and manipulated to the core, the whole news and media system is corrupt, useless and sells illusions on a massive scale, and people there vote mindlessly for thei own demise.
We are the people, this is our planet, let us not let that happen.
There is only one way: hide your assets, stop voting and paying taxes, let the system drop.
We have been conditionned to fear a scenario where goverment in europe tumble and fall, but this is also an illusion. We are the people, we made our countries, we can do it again. What we need is to get rid of those who live to ride on our backs. They manipulate each of our world using tricks and illusions. We have the power to stop ot by stopping oir involvememt altogether.
It seems scary, it is not. Most our needs are illusions, and our weaknesses.
Man-up and stop believing in all tue crap in the news! Got off the system or be its unknowing accomplice... Well... Now you know, no more excuses...
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Man, you got to take it easy. Better to make a joke on a matter where it is clear that we dont know anything about. We dont know 10% of what is really behind the creation of israel and less and less as time goes by.The Israelis have the power to clear every Muslim from the city, so why don't they?
Oh right.... they won't have anyone to do the menial work.
The point you were trying to make were lost on me... what were you trying to say? no really, what?
Meanwhile, the police man who was involved in the shooting also succumbed to his injuries and died,
and the mayhem will continue with more casualties on both sides....
This situation is a great comedy and there are usually more lies than truths about it in the press.
What we think we know is that Israel is colonising as fast as they can and palestinians are dying and made to die on a massive scale, but never more than 10 at a time to avoid too much attention.
The inaction of the international community is the real joke here, so let the man make his.
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90 days?? Longer than THC...
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I feel very safe here in Cambodia.
Cambodia is much more authentic and most Cambodians are much more straightforward than Thais. I am not sure how safer it is though... One thing is sure is that the behaviour of some of Thailands travellers could bring to violence much faster than it would in Thailand. Jai yen yen is not on the safety list here.
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Racism? Yeah I love being called a good looking white and rich foreigner!...is it hatred, stupidity, wickedness? Maybe a combination.
It's racism pure and simple, it's always been there in Thailand, nothing new.
We're just starting to talk about it, that's all.
Wake up baby, what you hear and what is meant are not on the same cultural platform and dont originate from the same set of motivation... But live your dream as long as you have cash, that is your purpose here after all.
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I don't believe the Thai people are any more racist than any other country, but there is a minority everywhere....is it hatred, stupidity, wickedness? Maybe a combination.
It's racism pure and simple, it's always been there in Thailand, nothing new.
We're just starting to talk about it, that's all.
Strangely, there used to be a joke about the definition of a racist, which actually has some unfortunate truth.
A racist is someone who spends half of his/her life condemning those of other colours and then spends the other half trying to look like them.
This stems from the days of racism about black people by a minority of white people who lambasted black immigrants and then spent their holiday time sunbathing to turn brown. It can easily apply the other way. Look at all the 'whitening' products on sale in this country and other parts of the world.
No conclusions from me, just a sad thought.
If you think that thais are not more racist than any other country it is because you dont understand what is being said around you, or that you have never lived anywhere else.
Thailand is surely the country where racism is the most institionalised in the world... After Israel maybe...
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...is it hatred, stupidity, wickedness? Maybe a combination.
It's racism pure and simple, it's always been there in Thailand, nothing new.
We're just starting to talk about it, that's all.
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As tourism rightfully drops in thailand, attacks on tourists will multiply. Travelling to thailand has always brought many attacks and deaths, but all that was hidden in the numbers and silenced by police the media. Now there are not more deaths than before, they are just noisier in the press.
Wait after a couple of years of touris draught and crisis and you will see 10 times more attacks on tourists. Get out of there when its still time.
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It is a good thing for everybody if tourism drops drastically in Thailand.
It is good for other countries that are at a development stage where they need tourism to prosper. Thailand has long passed that stage and still squeeeze that lemon.
Thailand has so much more capable industries while the tourism industry is corrupt, full of scammers, based on whoring... Most Thais could regain their pride by working in other other sectors. No more beeing a mop for people who think they look good because they got cash.
It is also good for the tourists who have taken the habit to travel to thailand just because they feel good in its always artificial athmosphere. Lies and fake smiles to get to your wallet is exactly what tourists want, they come from usa or europe where they are lied to on tv, by politicians, journalists.... Everybody lies, everything is fake... So when they go to Thailand they feel right at home, fooled like they are used to.
Tourists have to wake up and actually travel the world, not just go to thailand to stay numb brained.
Thai tourism has to disappear for the good of all.
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How is it possible to drill such a big hole and nobody hear it. In my shop house if the guy 3 doors down farts, I hear it. Drilling a hole to hang a picture sounds like it is a foot from my ear. Either something is very fishy here or this has to be a very well constructed condotel.
Good thing you don't live three doors down from me....you would be hearing a lot more farting !
If I lived there youd have this conversation wearing respiratory masks.
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So they didnt steal anything.
All they did was to make a brown mark on a hole... Dont we all?
New immigration laws 2017 for people who live next to Thai border
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No... and Yes...
They are making ASEAN or not? They open borders on the paper but close them in reality. Once you are legally conducting business in an open border Economic Community, if you prevent some people from having the same business opportunities as others, it becomes discrimination.... which is actually a main trait of Thailand's attitude when dealing with foreigner businessmen anyway.