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  1. :o I agree with Toopeekaa.

    If mods can't actually see themselves in terms of their interation with others, why are they moderators. Have a quick look anywhere a dictator is installed. He rules by the gun initially, then controls the thinking process by childishly preventing others from realising that they are not alone in bagging the exalted one.

    It's high time George got back into active work on the forum and put a leash on his "staff" for want of a better term. It isn't as though they pull forums that are really vile, like that one in CM about that Pommie caught with the Hill Tribe kid, which was libelous at least, but rather have a searching look at them and see if they like what they see.

    Now..counting down for a dismissal or a removal... any bets? 30..29..28

  2. Important point there Chris,and well made. In spite of many slips shall we say, in MY life issues, my BF has stood by me through thick and thin, and I adore him for it.

    So when I hear people saying "Thais are thieves etc", they are wrong in general. I have frequently had to apologise for over-generaloising because I know I do, but at the end of the page, I would be dead if my love was not part of my life and it doesn't get much simpler than that IMO.

    Credit where credit is due, the heteros come in complaining about their "partners" and you look a little deeper, and they began the relationship... where? The ones with a depth to their relationship are happy and fulfilled and few of them are here complaining about life as a fulung.

    I am quite happy. Thank you. You can be as well if you are honest with your partner. In all things.

  3. gotta agree.... a great relationship is there to be found if you keep the battery in your bullshit-o-meter charged up.

    But surely that's true of anyone. As we mature, and seek either smarter (if we are clever) or cuter (if we are shallow), partners, we are aware of the fact that the partner of choice may well be testing the envelope.

    Part of the issue we confront as older gay males, is that we are seen as a reasonable way out of a youthfully exuberant go-nowhere lifestyle, either by virtue of the fact that we have the financial capacity to do it without pain, or the emotional maturity to act as guides.

    If that sounds like a nonsense, I really have to state it isn't, it's fact at least in my experience. We are treated by our young frinds exactly as we treat them.. treat them like a minor interruption in a busy social circuit and they will act like minor (usually paid) interuptions. Treat them with the importance you attach to the relationship and the same will be returned many times over.

    I am so over men of 50 plus whinging about how the bf treats them like this or like that, when if we honestly look at our relationships, we will find that we feel "how could he love an old man like me?" When in fact, our bf's do have the capacity to do just that. Love us unconditionally, if the time is rigt vis a vis their life stage and the feeling is right for us, to feel a deep and abiding love for them.

    As has been said before - reach out and touch - it really does pay handsome dividends.

  4. Id like to meet Georgie Porgie  :D

    On a serious note: Penzman, pnusted, Jay, 12call, Bronco, Dr PP, mbk??, Boon Mee, "beautiful" Nat, shopgurl, wolf157?, britmaverick (see if he really is a two headed brit  :D ), mandl and Tukyleith.

    Boon and Dr - your right!  :D

    Right...about what, Gent?

    You want to meet Georgie, I'm sure he's dying to meet you too! :D

    I've known Georgie casually for maybe 10 years. Quite a nice guy in person... I notice he likes to stir it up here :D .... Not at all like his real persona, in my experience. :o

    I would like to meet ajarn, to discuss areas of mutual interest. He is welcome to bring someone along to interpret any big words I thoughtlessly use.

    :D:D

  5. Great to see boom boom banged up. Probably good to delete its' entire post since they don't add anything.

    I have decided not to post anywhere but the gay section and my blog from now on because the hetero mods are shall we say "intellectually challenged".

    Good thread in my opinion even if the bar flies drag their sorry wads in when there isn't anything interesting going on in the rest of the place.

    It would be good to start up a quiet place, maybe private where heteros simply can't go for support of people like our newbie friend who had the rubber break.

    A thought for him though, get tested now, and again in 3 months. As Chris says there is normally a pile up in the blood in the first few days (up to 5), and also a heavy morning of throwing up and shitting. Without those in the few days after the break, you are likely to be OK, but nothing in life is certain but death and taxes.

    The window closes after 12 weeks, another test then that is clear and you are OK, but you will have learnt a fair bit. It is really hard to say be careful, becaue condoms are really all there is by way of being careful, but it doesn't need clinical discussion.

    You said you were worried. If you have the guys name and number, you and him pop along to his temple for a Tambun, and make it 1,000 Bt plus a bucket. You will feel better, he will respect you, and maybe something nice will come of it.

    Best of luck old son.

    Ice

  6. should change yer name to "Ijustwannagetmybackdoorkickedin" by the sound of it  :D

    Oooh, I'm so scared! I'm just gonna cream all over myself! :o

    Incidentally, I squat-press 200 kilos at 30 reps....

    "Steven"

    Just makes my eyes water think ing about that Steven. LOL. It had to do with a porn flick involving 3 guys, 1 down 2 up so to speak, but 200 kgs would have "come" close I think.

    I suggest Chris you just knock toss-posts off as soon as they appear. Boom Boom is just making light of a difficult situation for himself... no life :D

  7. Sorry Blondie that was unfair and I apologise.

    It is too easy by half to generalise and then remove any hope for the future of deep, meaningful relationships with Thais. They are possible and they do happen.

    At the end of the day my point has always been if you deal with real people you get real responses and real attitudes.

    I know the kids weren't in a bar, they were in a classroom. You banged the tables, they realised you were pissed, they lost face, but they also shut up.

    If at the end of the day you seek a situation where face is lost in the short term, but the goal you sought was achieved, them further saving face requires that you say nothing about it. I don't believe it has anything to do with not understanding the nature of or the need for, apology, it's about acceptance of responsibility which MANY (not all) Thais have a problem with.

    Ice

  8. The cause is crappy grounding caused by crappy power supplies made in Thailand. End of story.

    Fix it in a 12th floor apartment, get a single piece of copper, and take a power point off the wall.

    Wrap the wire around one of the screws holding the power point to the wall and screw the power point back on, securing the screw to the concrete wall.

    Unplug the PC from the wall and unscrew one of the screws holding the power supply to the computer, (not a case screw). A tab is a good idea but they are hard to find so just use the wire with a washer on top.

    Screw the wire down under the power supply screw. Connect to the wall socket again with power. Check voltage between earth and the case using you. (Does it still tingle?)

    You are fixing one piece of crappy thai work (the power supply) with another piece of crappy thai work (the concrete reinforcing).

    Hope it helps. All this technical rubbish about power supplies etc makes me laugh. If your Thai bought computer does it and your foreign bought one doesn't, what does that tell you?

    If this doesn't work, wear shoes when playing with the bloody thing or work on a mat.

  9. Not relating to sex, but to the "I'm sorry" statement in Thailand:

    I couldn't quiet down my class of 13 year olds on Wednesday; they just would not shut up.  So, in front of everybody, I went to the adjoining desks of the noisiest students and slapped their desks VERY loud with my bare hands.  It could have looked like I was about to hit them, as well (which I wouldn't have done, but I had lost my temper.)  Everybody lost face.

    The next day, individually and in front of the class, I apologized.  Methinks they hardly knew what an apology means in Thailand.

    So, I think that Thai boyfriends wouldn't know an apology if you offered them one, nor would they be very apt to offer one.

    Thanks so much Peace Blondie. I know how you feel, even though I don't agree. Truth is I also used to spend a lot of time around bars. Haven't walked into one in 3 years. No I didn't meet him in a bar and in fact he has NEVER been in one and I know that for a fact.

    I may have been spoiled, but not only have been apologised to for things he thought he had done, he was well aware of the reasons on the occasions I had need to apologise to him.

    Have a great weekend and a small scotch for me. :o

  10. snipped a bit..

    ...the real wats and having them experience the real wat and religion, and the culture and people who support it, rather than making a contrived version on hotel grounds specifically designed to attract money (customers)

    Sorry, but it feels too akin to Buddha-as-garden-gnome for my tastes.

    It's not as though the average tourist focussed wat (Phrasinhg, Doi Suthep, et al) are innocent of the charge of attracting tourism for the sake of the money.

    Ajarn maybe you need to take yourself a LITTLE less seriously. :o

  11. So you are saying everyone is an idiot who doesn't believe the hate mongering vitriol you are spewing? Nice to have an open mind and insult many at the same time. Do you know the definition of "hypocrisy"?

    Islamic schools have been teaching hatred for non muslims for 30 years. It is time for that to stop.

    And spare us your hate america rhetoric as it's not appropriate here. We've it all heard it ad nauseam.

    How isn't it appropriate? If you are talking about the thread I agree.

    In Thaivisa it is totally appropriate. Doesn't matter how you look at it. The GI was badly trained that he shot the guy, but it's a war that dubya asked for, in fact insisted on.

    Hard to work out what to feel about the people having their heads lopped off in terms of the GI shooting the Iraqi soldier. Maybe if one wasn't happening the other wouldn't occur? You have to ask where the cycle stops. Let's face it Israel, which is a more developed country than Iraq by some large amount, still hasn't got the intelligene to work out "stopping has to start with one person saying enough".

    Iraq won't change anything. Cheney gets the money his company needs and the US gets the discounted oil it needs, so really all is well with the part of the world that means anything (to America).

  12. If you're Thai, you will no doubt be forced to stay in this sadly and rapidly

    deteriorating nation. But if you're farang, you can leave. And after seven years

    of this utter nonsense, I am.

    Good-bye.

    Disillusioned

    BANGKOK

    Just sounds like another Farang that came to Thailand with some money, wasted it sitting in a Bar for 7 years and now has to go home.

    Seen lots like that over the Years. They blame Thailand for their own failures in life.

    Goodbye.

    Guess thats true DJ. Spend all your free time in a bar and thats becomes normal for you.

  13. I am approaching the point, where I want to say something, in public, to my Thai Love. He is my boyfriend, but I think of him as my love.

    I have so many reasons to say to you my darling, how I feel. I am saying it here, in hopes that others may see the possibility of life without the need for large cash payments, for trips shopping and Rolex watches, diamond rings and gold for mother. You have no name here, so you can read it, and know I am so proud of you, and I will love you, till the end of time.

    I love you for sharing the special moment as your grandmother and grandfather touched us as we knelt in front of them in their tiny lounge, with your little sister and your cousin, your father and your uncle, kneeling near and around us, and we thanked the Lord Buddha who set Kharma for us to meet.

    I love you for ringing me up between classes, just so you can hear my voice.

    I love you for looking beyond "farang" and finding "my love".

    I love you for being honest and open with me, when others want you to lie to me, to save their faces.

    I love your laughter when I am quite tollok.

    I love it when you are a big pooying.

    I love your sadness when you seek my comfort.

    I love your touch when I grieve for loss I don't understand.

    I love it when you buy mama because we had to pay for an extra class, and you eat it with me.

    I love to wake you gently in the morning, and praise the fate that gives us one more together.

    I love to wai phra with you for sadness among people who don't understand, that they will be at peace with themselves.

    I love little messages on the phone that remind me that I love you as much as you love me.

    I love the plans we have made, that we have completed, and the ones we have, yet to be fulfilled.

    I love it when you tell me you are sorry for not understanding, because it lets me learn how to teach you.

    I love it when you blame yourself for something we are both responsible for, because it lets me remind you that I also was wrong.

    I love making up, before we have a fight, just in case we do one day.

    Thank you my darling, for being my treasure, my warm, lovely treasure.

    Thank you just for being .

    I really really really do Love you so much.

    :o

  14. He's an american thai who currently lives in the states somewhere.

    He's an avid bush fan and a believer in the home seurity US crap.

    Ha ain't to bright but i don't think he had any bad intentions.

    He not live in US, he live in bangkok. He is with US embassy. Does security for US embassy.

    somsri

    Well there's his cover blown... LOL and him a bible belter...

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