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Cruise patrons have paid in advance for transportation and a Tour Package supplied by Thai Vendors.

Dha, No problem.

If I were on a cruise and wanted to go on a organized tour, it is my business.

If I want to pay the local Tuk Tuk's then I would visit on my own and not buy a package tour.

But sounds like Cruise operators may start avoiding Phuket if the local Government does not stop the tuk tuks from interferring in passengers and their pre paid tours thru thai operators.

Thai's can take care of themself's just fine.

Time to start a Condo Neighborhood Watch

Opening and closing times are hillarious. McDonalds closes at 21:00 Forgot what time they open, but later opening and closing than anywhere else in Thailand. Even a few of the movies start at or about 22:00. So go figure.

Heard the McDonalds there will have a breakfast on the menu next week.

Funny if they start breakfast at their 10:00 am opening and stop at 11:00 am

But then again, this is Chiang Rai. what else do we expect !

Your departure on the 11th - 15th will not require you to file a 90 day report of address since you leave before the term expires.

Your new 90 days will start when you return to Thailand.

90 days from that date, you will have to report your address.

Unless you depart Thailand again before the 90 day reporting time.

500 baht per day per person for overstaying your permission to stay.

Wouldn't it be better to just go do your visa run or trip to Laos now instead of the expensive late fees.

As per Mac's statement, any public or financial document that would genuinely have to be certified by the US Embassy in Bangkok would have to originate with the document source in the USA, then go through the Thai Embassy in Washington, then the MoFA in Bangkok, and arrive at the US Embassy in Bangkok without the document EVER touching your formerly nicotine-stained fingers.

.. and the above is only a summary of what is required

This applies to the true validity of any source of income documents used to suport real, verified income to any Embassy.

All the paper in the world can be shown to support income. But in the end, all any Embassy is doing is notorising a person't claim of income. It is not in fact verified by any Embassy.

For it to be verified, all documents supplied have to originate and go thru the long process of verification from your home country to be accepted in Thailand.

This is most likely why immigration here really only needs an Embassy letter Notorised as proof of income.

They can always ask for a non certified paper trail to support your letter if they really want or need to.

But this does not guaraantee the validity of the income. the Embassy letter meets Thai immigration's requirement per their own web site and all information published about it in English and in Thai.

Good to hear about that hidden jem.

A Japanese friend told me of a Spicy Ramen place in Central Plaza Airport.

Said it is japanese style Ramen and good and decent price.

Anyone got info on it ? Or name ?

You can pretty much count of Children starting on Saturday April 9, with the rest joining in probably as of Monday the 11th and continuing thru the following weekend 16th -17th.

Used to love it when it was just a one day event years ago.

Now, blah blah blah. Stay home or in my car, office, or shopping center.

Otherwise, I avoid riding the motorcycle or walking anywhere at all during this time.

The OP neds to look at the "Big Picture of life and realities".

23 in Thailand, not ready to make a comittment to be a monk, girlfriend works at her friend's Mum's restaurant, stays in guest houses, does not want to go back to home for personal reasons, got an easy visa from Hull, UK over a year ago.

How will OP ever support self and possibly local girlfiend whom OP is thinking of marrying only for sake of a visa to stay ?

Jazzbo, As you earlier quoted the criteria for affirming and using documents in Thailand.

You are oh so correct.

The same applies for all other countries that the affirmation of all documents are true and correct according to the standard are not being met by any Embassie unless the person submiting such documents, has gone thru ALL the STEPS within their home country and their local Thai Embassy.

The paper trails can, and are made up by many. Seen it done ! The validity of many documents used is questionable at best,, regardless of the Embassy they are submitted to unless they meet the proof of acceptable Certified documents per proper procedures.

Would be a good idea to just load up local imigration offices with all the paperwork and hastle of substantiating it all.

Think they would be happy about that ? Doubt it

And what about all the other long stay visa's that have no income or bank requirements?

Kind of unfair to us old retired folks who worked our bunns off to get where we are.

The old Git is trying to make a good point of what some are making issue of, and claiming the letters from the usa are no good, and not sufficiant to meet consideration criteria.

How can anyone claim that such letters are improper and try to discredit the us embassies and officials sworn and knowing their diplomatic ties to Thailand.

Per the immigration web site, it does state in fact tha the proof of monthly income is proof by a certified letter from the applicant's Embassie within Thailand.

There is no statments made by, or written procedure that any Countrie's letter is less valid than any other.

Each individual Embassy has their criteria for issuing such letter. What happens between a Diplomatic representative of an Embassy and a person requesting a certified letter of income is "Confidential" and may vary from person to person.

To make a "BLANKET STATEMENT" that no one needs to provide proof is second, third, fourth hand information and Gossip.

I provide proof every time regardless if asked for it or not, and surely many others do also

The persons bringing attention to this, or questioning are ill informed and stirring up idle bar style gossip and speculation.

If they want to speak for themself's, it is their right, but not very wise to question Embassy poicies and relations with the Thai government and Immigration.

It is always good to know if their is a immigration policy change, but this type of policy or any inforcement thereof, is against even Thai laws.

I agree as another poster earlier stated that this is discrimination and bringing unwanted and unwarented, unsubstantiated attention and discrimination of rights and or opportunities to a certain nationality of persons.

Thank you old git for stating it so eloquently in your reply.

Doubt the marriage income thinkggy for Retirement visa will fly with your Thai/American wife since it is SS from the usa. And also because it is her income. Thgink you have to have the 66,000 per month yourself, not including her income.

Check with your local immigration office to be sure. they might just accept it.

Consider:

1. Showing marriage to a Thai national and not her income at all, which will reduce your monthly income requirement. (I think to 400,ooo or about 40,000 a month).

2. Save, and put at least 80,000 (about $2,500 - $3,000) seasoned about 3 months (just to be sure it meets the seasoning requirement) in a Thai Bank (depending on the exchange rate at that time).

3. Hope the USD - THB exchange rate gets way better by the time you apply.

4. Get a "income verification letter" (which is required anyhow to prove your retirement income) from your Countries Embassy.

The Wild Boar on Tapae (spelling ?) Soi 1 specializes in all International Sports and has a few different feeds.

Don't remember the size of the screens, but think not less that 40 inches

The Rock and Roll music is also pretty good there.

The owner tries to accomodate requests within reason. and staff are aware of this.

Near Ta Pia Gate near the Top North Hotel.

Small beer bar and some food, but doubtful of a Sunday Roast.

Also could try Mulligan's Irish Pub in the Walking Street night market area.

Thank you Mario.

Had trouble in the past getting immigration to undertand this. Maybe referring to the specific police order will help.

I currently have a Retirement Visa and my elderly mother has the same.

Both used the bank criteria for consideration and approvals.

In the past she has always qualified on her own, but geting a bit expensive to show the required 800,000 for eash of us.

Is it possible for her to obtain a Visa or an extension whatever based on the fact that she is my dependent?

She lives with me and requires someone to help and care for her. Sh is not an invalid, but elderly.

What type of Visa or Extension would she qualify for based on being my elderly dependent ?

Pretty Sick that the news article had a pic of the lady lying half nekked on the beach. Nearly as bad for her as the two pervs did to her, To have her pic published in that condition is cheesy.

they are also good for those with short comings in the trouser department when trying to attract ladys

Confushing info by posters about what is required. Info on immigration webs say either bank with letter, or income with nothing else mentioned, or a combo of bank with letter and income.

I have read some people say sometimes at different offices they ask for a bank book and don't care about how much is in there.

So it's a toss up to get the bank letter or not.