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31 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

Such victim blaming is a blessing for every incompetent government, as every f-up can conveniently be put on those that you actually have to take care of. 

bababobo,

it was a genuine question,

a look into the matters would readily show who has been screwing,

government or manufacturers

many are the businesses around in Europe who have experienced problems, partly large ones, related

to regime shifting, ie becoming member of EEC/EU/EEA

UK businesses will be vanguards re exit problems

Queen, the current one

is she queen of Wales, England, NI and Scotland? What about UK? Does UK as such have a queen?

what is the root here

Brexit as such causing problems for small UK manufact

Or is it, at least partly, small UK manufact not having prepared for a new regime?

33 minutes ago, tebee said:

So you think Ireland should join you in your act of suicidal madness?

 

One thing this debacle has shown them is the strength they have being part of a Union of 27.

 

This is the first time they have been able to take the UK on as equals.

So you think Ireland should join you in your act of suicidal madness?

the more the merrier

15 hours ago, StreetCowboy said:

Back in the day, Bangladeshi cheese-smugglers could not easily bring in Edam truckles or Red Leicester truckles to the European Union.  We chose to put our selves with the Bangladeshis rather than the Edamis.

 

We have chosen our bed, and rejected our place in the marital bed of the EU.   That is what happens when you ask for a divorce.

 

But at least we are free to choose the colour of our passports
SC

But at least we are free to choose the colour of our passports

yes, you are still free to choose, as you have been during your whole eec/eu membership

12 hours ago, Hi from France said:

Taking part in a debate does not just mean saying what you have on your mind. 

 

It means going through the effort of proving your points, taking account things that are true and rejecting things that are false. 

 

 

jeeeeeeeez, give me a b

don't really find UK's request that far out,

UK and EU should have a fair measure of common interests in that corner of the foggy islands

9 minutes ago, robblok said:

No its more basic then that IMO. The English have still idea's of grandeur and a longing for past time when the UK counted for something with a big empire. The Scots and Irish were never that proud of it actually being conquered too by the English in the past. So they don't suffer from the same problems.

 

The English were easily convinced by liar BJ and now project fear is project reality with all the things coming true. Empty shelves bad economy and so on and so on. Fishing sector that is suffering not flourishing (how ironic). The Scots and Irish were less convinced by BJ and his nationalistic talk. They were more realists while Brexiteers were more dreamers. 

That is my opinion not fact but that is the way i see it. 

wouldn't chracterise your first paragraph as spot on,

but I do think you point to some substance in it

28 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

A quick check of the polls. 58% of those polled in Scotland were in favour of independence. Hardly a vast majority.

 

SNP were showing a majority of 51%. Hardly a vast majority and also their lowest point for some months now. 

 

Both figures from polls taken on 13th January.

a lot less than 58 sufficed for Brexit . . . .

22 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Well, I've met many expats in Thailand that consider themselves charming and intelligent. Just like these EU member states, empirical evidence would suggest that they are very much mistaken ????.

that was quite a mouthfull,

empirical evidenc suggests that those who feel they stem from an indep/sover country are mistaken . . .

Hello small bear, which is your fav. colour today?

today it is blue!

you are wrong, it is orange!

4 minutes ago, RuamRudy said:

What's with putting words in my mouth to try to shore up your non existent argument? 

 

The reality is that we, as a country, consider the EU a more appealing option than the UK. You may not understand that point, but you don't have to. Its irrelevant what you think. 

funny re spelling,

maany would consider EU as more appalling then the UK ..., hmm

27 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

The SNP has stated that it is their desire to rejoin the EU. So I am not sure that my stating of such a fact is dictatorial.

 

My feelings about the EU are neither here nor there. What is relevant is that the SNP's claims to want Independence are not consistent with their stated desire to rejoin the EU. You can either be Independent or you can be in the EU. By definition, you cannot be both.

 

my guess is that the vast majority of the current EU member states would consider themselves as independent

and sovereign

17 hours ago, impulse said:

Other than optics, I don't even know why this is an issue.  Every EU diplomat has been nominated to represent their sovereign state to the EU.  Seems like their diplomatic status ties back to their respective sovereign state.  In that respect, their assignment to the EU isn't relevant. 

 

They're still a French diplomat, or a Spanish diplomat or ..  or ..  Answering first to France, Spain, etc.  Who are ultimately responsible for their behavior, care and feeding as diplomats.

hmmm,

things take a change, Brexit threads now overflow with lack of knowledge

the above post is hopefully not taken as gospel by any readers

25 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

And she's also a bitter loser who will say anything to trash Brexit (just like most remainers and europhiles) 

expanding a bit on that,

she and some disappointed remainers her and there, not least on TVF, strong lovers of UK and the remaining bits and

pieces of the empire,

now do their best to rubbish their nationstate and kick it down in the mud

how can BJ or ano other PM (Starmer or similar) run a country with such a crew?

time the foggy islanders get their act together

4 hours ago, Hi from France said:

I fully take your point. 

 

For example in many world summits (like the next climate summit organized by the UK, I think) France will have two seats : as France and as a EU member! 

 

 

 

Basically, we can both have our cake and eat it. 

 

I know of a country who'd like the same, but just couldn't.. 

 

do you at all vaguely understand what this issue is about?

France two seats. Sitting there with EU stamped on you front and being France?

bah bah boh boh

6 hours ago, Hi from France said:

Can't we? Why do all others countries in the world give EU ambassadors the same diplomatic status as traditional ambassadors, then? 

 

We can and we do

 

 

hmm

you with an education presumably higher than the average brexiteer (your words): says

all other in the world, is that so?

if you look out the window and beyond the first kerb you'll discover more than 200 of these countries of yours,

they all do as you say?

On 1/16/2021 at 5:32 AM, IvorBiggun2 said:

It's got plenty to do with Scottish independence. One vote against Scotland joining and its bye bye Scotland. Spain have already stated, many times, that they will vote against. How straight forward that.

very straight forward

none the less, I think you can safely forget Spain in a lasting way blocking Scotland from EU membership

will not happen

I wage a tenner

22 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

So bold.

yep

reminds me a bit about Don Q and his fellow wind mill fighters . . .

interesting;

I just bought an electrical cable on www from a French firm,

halfway through the process I switched to the English lingo (my French is getting somewhat rusty now)

immediately the software flashed up in red and screamed at me

Due to the current difficulties with shipments to the UK we cannot take any orders

for shipments to the UK.

42 minutes ago, stevenl said:

EEC didn't have ambassadors.

 

First UK agreed with full diplomatic status, now they don't.

 

Is the UK interested in diplomatic connections with the EU, or only with the individual countries?

this problem area is way older than EU,

it is not limited to ambassadors and/or EU's representative as such

it is more about EU's place and role on the int. scene and in the zillion international organisations

On 1/19/2021 at 10:58 PM, tebee said:

The Scots, laughing about the Germans laughing at us...... 

 

https://www.thenational.scot/news/18974343.der-spiegel-writer-takes-aim-uk-government-clowns-scathing-column/

 

 

HERE in the UK, Brexit is far from over. The consequences of Boris Johnson’s disastrous deal will impact generations and spell the end of the Union, according to constitutional experts.

calm calm

give it some time