lingling

In Holland i'm a beekeeper ( non professional-just hobby)

I wondered if there are any expats who took up beekeeing in Thailand

Near Bantak , where my son has a house , one buys honeycombs on the market but i couldn't get

in touch with the beekeeper.

Maybe it's also gathered " in the wild " and not farmed

I'm interested in your experiences , f.i. do you keep apis mellifera or the local apis ceranoe

And what about varroa destructor - a pain in the ass in Europe

Any info is welcome

The honeycombs sold in markets and by street vendors are usually retrieved from wild bees. I have been trying to get hold of a couple of hives for several months but every honey vendor I have asked so far have honey/combs from wild bees only.

Maizefarmer has replied with useful details in previous bee related threads such as:

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?sh...t=#entry1110156

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=85123

His family live in BKK (I'm in Hua Hin) and they, and his friends, are more than happy for me to take care of his son. The mother doesn't know anything about it, as she has had no contact with the little boy (I'll call him "A" for ease) since he was 6 months old & my boyfriend removed him from her care, as she was abusing/neglecting him.

I also have a document, signed by my boyfriend in the presence of a lawyer, saying he gives me "guardianship" of A. The problem is this: I contacted a lawyer here, admittedly with no experience of these matters, & I've been told that this document will hold up in Thailand (at least until the matter gets to court, if it ever comes to that), but that I have virtually no chance of legally adopting him, as I'm single, a woman, with limited income (I run a charity) and farang. I was told that the fact I've been his mother for 3 years doesn't count. I'm at square one, as far as that goes.

To clarify about why my boyfriend had "custody": Firstly it wasn't legal custody - no-one ever saw a lawyer or went to court.

Unless custody has been awarded to someone else (you, your BF's family, ...?) the mother is still the legal guardian of that child. Keeping him away/hidden from here is illegal (here as well as in your home country). If you can't adopt him, maybe his parents can and they can then put him in your care.

Method of Transmission - Bites of infected animals pass the virus on through saliva.

Also worth noting is that it can be transferred without a bite - a friendly lick from an infected animal can sometimes be enough. There was a tourist girl a couple of years ago who died after having played with an infected dog in TH. She was never bitten, just played with it. Should be somewhere in the news forum.

One guy went on my apology letter and called me a "compulsive attention seeker" and then counted or made up the amount of times I used "I" in my letter. How ridiculous can you get? Can he suggest a better way of taking responsibility for myself without using the word "I" and would that make him feel better or is he just jumping on the bandwagon?

I think he was right. You used the word "I" 29 times in this reply - again turning the topic from "TV's excellent communication potential" to "MTW".

My son was bitten on the face in a restaurant not long back... luckily it healed pretty well and there hopefully won't be too much scarring. Could have taken his eye out! Neutering is defo the way to go but for now, best to round em up in a field and bomb the b@stards!

Ouch, lucky he didn't lose his eye or catch any diseases. Was the dog taken care of and autopsied? (A brain tissue biopsy is needed for rabies screening)

Considering you said this has nothing to do with the closed threads, I'm at a loss to see your point at all.

I'm not expecting you to see my point. The day you have children of your own you will.

Others who have children will most likely understand that 33% bitten by the age of 15, >86% of them by dogs, 80% unprovoked is not a good thing.

Not only do you have problems reading studies & applying the information, as I have already pointed out, you also have problems reading posts, it seems. In the post that you took my quote from (above), it stated that my son had been bitten by a monkey & received rabies jabs. So, I do have a child. I do also, like all parents, take care to protect him from harm. In my town, at this time, harm seems more likely from speeding drivers than soi dogs.

Please note, again, that the statistics you are using relate to dogs in general, not specifically stray dogs (which seem to be the ones you have the problem with) and are not that different from the figures for Australia (1980), where I do not believe they have a significant stray problem as we do in Thailand.

As for solutions; a simple start is spay/neuter programmes (as done already by SDR, Dogchance, Samuidog, SDF and others and about to be started by us in our area). The soi dogs are brought in, neutered, vaccinated against rabies & released when recovered. That reduces population & exposure to rabies (as the dogs will be vaccinated). Neutering can also reduce aggressiveness, which may reduce the number of bites - I am not aware if any studies have been done on that aspect, but it would be interesting to know. If the govt would put their efforts into N&R, as well as the non-profit orgs, I believe the problem would be vastly reduced.

The government has already tried neutering programmes several times but with 110k estimated strays and a few hundred thousand more let onto the streets by their owners that has not been very successful. Instead, rabies incidence is going up. Read the links I posted.

And again, the day you have children of your own you will probably see the dog problem from a different angle.

Over the years some things tend to pile up; expired medicine (both OTC and prescription), various household chemicals, old engine oil and other automotive fluids. In the west there are established ways to properly dispose of these; expired medicine can be returned to pharmacies, old engine oil returned to the auto part stores, radiator fluid/antifreeze flushed down the toilet etc. How about in Thailand, how do one dispose of these things properly here? Flushing down medicine and/or household chemicals is obviously a bad idea since it will not only upset the biological balance in the septic tank but potentially add to environmental damage. So... what is the proper way to dispose of these items here?

To talk with thais to do something about anything I gave up a long time ago .It is the sad truth they just do not care , unless it is next to the 'important' person themselves .

Wrong attitude. It is a slow process, but nagging works.

But the thing is what we 'farang' can do about it ? Nothing. What the Thai can do about it ! everything .

We farang can acknowledge that there is a problem and inform others. Then maybe the Thais who can do something about it will. Or we can just stick our heads in the sand and ignore it.

No it is about discussing something about the moderators.

The tread is giving a chance .

Bingo

Please stick to the topic.

anybody know whether you can buy a crock pot type slow cooker for casseroles here in thailand?

maybe a rice cooker would make a good substitute?

missing the mums cooking.

"Power buy" or whatever it is called, World Trade Center/Central World Plaza, 3rd or 4th floor, in the back towards the SW corner.

I guarantee you that it will be closed very soon. TV mods showing their true colors.

Tread carefully lingling.

See, this is exactly what I mean. Why don't you warn those who are trying to get this thread off topic instead?

Is rabies really that serious here in Thailand/ I would like more proof, please.

You'll find some more facts in this article:

http://www.soonak.com/PDF/JMATVol88_No1_120.pdf

More than 400,000 persons required rabies post-exposure prophylaxis (PEP) in 2003, more than 4 times as many as those in 1991 [93,641 cases in 1991; 183,815 in 1996 and 350,535 in 2001].

However, in a survey conducted by the Bureau of National Statistics and the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration in 1999, it was estimated that approximately 630,000 dogs dwell in Bangkok city (an area of 1 565 sq km). In this survey, approximately 110,000 of the dogs living in Bangkok were considered to be ownerless (stray or feral), whereas the remainder was believed to be owned or were community dogs.

In spite of a vigorous campaign to increase rabies awareness and PEP, the number of annual human rabies deaths in Bangkok rose from less than 5 between 1990-1994 to 6 -8 per annum between 1995-2001 (MOPH report).

Whether it is a problem or not is open for interpretation. Maybe it was just the karma of those who died, to get rabies.

I don't think that the topic should be closed,as it is a valid one.many of the Thai people where I live,go walking early in the morning.We do have a very large number of dogs around here.Every second person that goes on these walks carry a large stick...for the odd shitty dog.

I guarantee you that it will be closed very soon. TV mods showing their true colors.

I never hear of thairath before.

Is this a right wing newspaper - it sounds angry!

Probably the most read newspaper among uneducated or little educated Thais. Publishing gory photos of accident/murder/rape victims along with articles packed with meaningless figures and numbers (used to decide what lottery numbers to buy) is their main thing.

What about dating service?

That was just a joke.

Yes a very good idear, lets not forget to posion everyone who contains a diesease we could catch, very humane hugh!

The mods have already established that discussing poisoning dogs is not allowed, so please stick to the topic. This thread is about how to ensure that children don't disturb the sweet free roaming rabid dogs.

Considering you said this has nothing to do with the closed threads, I'm at a loss to see your point at all.

I'm not expecting you to see my point. The day you have children of your own you will.

Others who have children will most likely understand that 33% bitten by the age of 15, >86% of them by dogs, 80% unprovoked is not a good thing.

May not be a good thing , but to poison them all is not a solution either .

Now you're mixing up the threads. I think the mods have already established that discussing poisoning dogs is not allowed, so please stick to the topic. This thread is about how to ensure that children don't disturb the dogs.

Since 80% of the dog bites mentioned in the study above were unprovoked, my guess is that locking up the children is the only solution. Unless of course one thinks that it is ok that children get bitten and sometimes killed by dogs.

Dingaling why don't you stop trolling and winding people up.

I would have thought 2 closed threads was enough for you to get the message.

I'm not trolling, I'm pointing out a real problem. Apparently a couple of doctors over at Chula also think this is a problem. Free rabies shots for every one is not a solution, getting rid of the source of these bites is.

Considering you said this has nothing to do with the closed threads, I'm at a loss to see your point at all.

I'm not expecting you to see my point. The day you have children of your own you will.

Others who have children will most likely understand that 33% bitten by the age of 15, >86% of them by dogs, 80% unprovoked is not a good thing.

Do you want to poison the forum as well ?

No, why would I?

I can't see why you would need to apologize for that...? Everyone has their own personality and opinions and are entitled to that - isn't that the whole point with discussion forums like this?

Not related to the previous dog threads, but the dog lovers may find this interesting.

Animal rabies and animal bites are serious public health problems in Thailand. As in the United States, reported cases of human rabies deaths are rare, but the number of rabies-exposed victims who received rabies vaccines and immunoglobulin remains high.1,2 The Queen Saovabha Memorial Institute (QSMI) operates as the principal rabies prevention clinic for the Bangkok metropolitan area. The majority of patients who attend QSMI are poor and are probably representative of those who attend public health institutions throughout Thailand and other developing countries where canine rabies is prevalent.

Children are a population group at high risk of rabies exposure and rabies. Approximately one-third of Thai children are bitten by dogs at least once by the age of 15.3 This study was conducted to delineate the epidemiology of potential rabies exposures in Thai children.

from http://www.wemjournal.org/wmsonline/?reque...4&page=0239

So what shall we do to prevent the kids from disturbing the sweet soi dogs? Lock up all children so the dogs don't have to waste their energy on biting kids?

This is a very unpleasant post . To think to kill them is bad ,posting how to kill them is worse !

I think it is more unpleasant to read news reports about children murdered by stray dogs. Far to common and very preventable. Unfortunately some people here value a dogs life higher than a human life.

Somewhat related to the now defunct thread "Dog Poisoning - ethics" I have a couple of questions regarding the methods. I think it was already established in the previous thread that dog lovers think it is not nice to poison evil stray dogs, even if they threaten the safety/life/health/well being of your children on their way to school.

However, if one were to choose the "immoral" path of disposing of said pests through poisoning to protect human lives, what is the most effective and painless method? A cocktail of sedatives and poison? Rat poison is surely not a very pleasant way since it causes internal bleeding leading to a slow and painful death. Would potassium salts be a better option?

Maybe the resident dog experts and/or vets can come with some tips, because whether you like it or not sometimes these things need to be dealt with.

Just using good old soap opera logic to figure out the next event in this story.