MaprangHolmes

4 minutes ago, theoldgit said:

The UKVI specifically advise against purchasing a non refundable flight ticket until a visa has been issued, and in any case they say that airline tickets should not submitted with an application.

For your girlfriends application to succeed she needs to satisfy the decision maker that her trip is genuine and affordable and that, on the balance of probabilties she will return home at the conclusion of her visit.

If you're paying for her trip then you will need to provide evidence that you can afford to do so, and why you are doing so, she will need to detail what her plans are for her three month holiday.
She will need to prove her strong ties to Thailand, she may have three plots of land, but do they provide her with an income, her two sons won't give her much of an edge, especially as one is an adult.
Yes, people do get visas when they don't have a job, but they do need to demonstrate that they're self sufficient in Thailand.

This part is not totally correct 

On 7/7/2017 at 7:07 AM, misterphil said:

She has no reason to return to Thailand, you have a hell of a lot more than she has so immigration think she wont come back hence the rejection.  

 

Don't reapply, she will get a 10 year ban if you are persistent. 

 

Reasons to return:

Land
House
Cars 

Motorbikes

Children

You, if you lived in Thailand she would have you to return to.  

 

That is total rubbish she wont get a 10 year ban for repeatedly applying for a visa you get that for lieing, they may well keep refusing it but that is about all. Your reason to return are also not really true, having children land, houses cars, motorbikes are all no reason to return. I have got my mother in law numerous visas to the UK and she has nothing. In fact she is here in the UK at the moment for 5 months and the visa was granted without any problem and with out having anything on your list

On 6/17/2017 at 0:26 PM, malct said:

Thank you 7by7 regards "But the LitUK test for ILR was introduced in April 2007, so if she didn't take it for her ILR she must have waited at least 10 years before deciding to apply for British citizenship; so another 5 weeks isn't that long"

 

My wife came under the old rules and we married in august 2011 and she gained her indefinite leave to remain in September 2014, is it correct that my wife can apply for citizenship after 5 years? 

regards gaining citizenship, we are trying to get as much done as soon as we can so we can relax and not worry about anything and start to enjoy life since I am now retired

 

 

If your wife got ILR in 2014 then she must of done the life in the UK test which she can also use for citizenship which should could apply for now. She would of applied for citizenship 1 year after getting ILR. 

Being that she has already had 4 Schengen tourist visa's before and has stuck to the rules, I don't see any reason why they will not grant her another Schengen visa.

If you apply via the consulate in London they are fine and it will be free and processed very quickly, Last one I done there was turned around in 3 days. If you apply via BLS forget it complete idiots who really do not have a clue what they are taking about. If you do apply via BLS remember it is 15  calendar days not 15 working days which they try to insist is correct.

Being the way Spain is at the moment traveling without a visa is perfectly legal but expect a load of hassle from the Spanish that is if you even are allowed to board the plane.

the more cynical person could say that the Spanish are so unhelpful and totally ignore the rules just so that people have to apply again for which they then gain another fee!

I thought that as she would of been traveling with her daughter she would of been covered under the freedom of movement but according to the Spanish embassy she is not, which again I really do not think is correct

1 hour ago, rasg said:

A stupid question. Why not try and apply for the second part of the visa or a second visa for the 2nd period of time as another application?

we would of done that but my mother in law is coming to the UK on Sunday so we don't have the time and they wont let her apply in the UK they keep on insisting on have a settlement visa which again is against the visa rules 

She spoke to someone from the Embassy the staff at BLS took my mother to an office and phoned the Embassy and passed the phone over to my mother in law to speak to them, I can still not understand how you can be given half of a visa and according to the Spanish embassy in Bangkok be grateful that you got that. Without any explanation as to why they came to that decision.

This is why I am so hacked off, This never came from the staff at BLS but from a member of staff at the Embassy and if they are going to refuse the visa then that is what they should of done. I find the whole attitude and the manner in which this has been dealt with terrible who on earth can an Embassy treat people like this? and they really should not be aloud to get away with it.

not really all they kept saying you should be grateful you got 9 days, they seemed totally oblivious to the point that by doing what they have the person can not go on holiday. Another person (A Thai Teacher) asked for 20 days but was only given and he tried to explain that everything had been booked and it can not really be changed but they did not give a toot. I am struggling to understand that if you satisfy all of the requirements to be given any sort of visa then why they would not give you what you have asked for and what you have proved you need. To a large point it is cruel what they are doing you don't go out for dinner and expect to be given only half of the meal you ordered.

I can not and do not understand any government who should be aloud to treat people like this, OK one person is not going to make too much of a difference in the scheme of things, but I will keep complaining to the European commission until something is done about the way the Spanish are treating people. 

We found out the reason for this they have decided not to allow her to have a visa for the second trip, how that can make any sense is beyond me, if they have granted a visa for 9 days what real difference would it of made to grant it for 16. There was another person there he asked for 20 days they gave him 10. To me this is not write and I am not really sure if it is lawful. Really what is the point in giving someone half of what they have asked for when you have all of the travel documents in front of you. You qualified for the visa or they would not have given you anything then they just muck everything up for you.

Is it any wonder that the Spanish economy is in such a state when you have people like this making decisions on tourism. 

I am certainly going to make a complaint to the EU about this. The person at the embassy really could win an award to being incredibly rude and arrogant her reply was simple, we gave you 9 days we didn't have to give you that so be grateful. Now that is just plain rude.

I am not sure if you can do such things but I am going to try and organise a class action complaint about the way and how the Spanish embassy are dealing with people.

23 minutes ago, mgb said:

A 5 year old would understand it if there is enough time to think about it. Your mother-in-law was not the onliest visa applicant.
I guess the papers weren't fully read and the dates at the application form were misunderstood.
Now the embassy could only cancel the visa and issue a new one with the correct data.

considering that the application went through BLS who where meant to check the application (The person made a point of surposdly checking everything because my mother in law is old and she also new she was traverling to the UK and wanted it all done without any problems) (LOL) they never said a word about it, they asked for more documents that really had nothing to do with the application (They wanted my mother in laws flight ticket to the UK which has nothing to do with her application) and took out documents that did have something to do with the application (They took out her flight ticket to Spain).

One can only hope now they are happy to take the passport back Tomorrow and send it back by Friday which I really wont hold my breath. Shame really when they are the ones that have screwed up but knowing how awkward the Spanish can be I dout that are going to be of much help. 

they had an inventory to refer to it was also in the sponsors letter about the travel plans, they had the different hotels, they should of had different flight tickets to see. Also it does say the date you arrive and date you will leave so that is what has been done. They really do not have any reason for not understanding, a 5 year would understand this so it really should of been done as asked or refused

9 minutes ago, mgb said:

Which dates were written to field 29 and 30 at the schengen application form? 
 

29. Intended date of arrival in the Schengen area:

23/06/17

15/07/17

30. Intended date of departure from the Schengen area

01/07/17

22/07/17

It make absolutely no sense to give someone a visa to cover one trip when you have 2 trips planned, it makes far more sense to of just refused the application. If they had written a letter to explain why they have done this it would be something but they haven't even done that

1 hour ago, Donutz said:

Could be because of the worthless BLS 'service' (555) that suggestes to remove documents. Could also be because Spain isn't the most flexible and user friendly embassy who may just have a policy of very limited visa validity for first time Schengen visa travellers.

 

I would contact the embassy via mail and phone. You can officially object against the type of visa just like with a refusal but you probably do not have such time. See if you like the answer the Spaniards give if you contact them on the why and if it was not just an error due to glorious BLS involvement.. .

What seems stupid is that we provided an inventory showing both trips to Spain and also in the sponsors letter it explained that there was going to be two trips to Spain. which are within a short time of each other and why give a visa for the fist trip but not for the second one which is only a couple weeks after the first one. It really does not make any sense to me, If they where going to refuse a visa for the second trip surely they should of included a letter explaining why they have refused it? 

From what I understand they took out the flight ticket because they saw another one which looked the same which is not surprising considering that both trips she is using the same airline. What she never bothered to look at was the dates, if she had she would of seen that they are different dates.

The real problem now is my mother in law is flying to the UK on Sunday and they wont let her apply in the UK so now it looks like losing money and causing upset with her not being able to go because they have mucked her visa up.

Bit of an update when my mother in law applied for her visa I told her not to let BLS take out any documents but she got intimidated by them and allowed them to remove some documents, they removed her flight tickets showing that she would be traveling with her daughter to Spain on the 15/07/17 so I am summing that is why they never granted the visa to cover the 15/07 to 22/07? the other thing that seems odd is the embassy never put a letter in with the passport to explain why the visa did not cover this period.

Anyone got any ideas?

My mother in law has just got her passport back from the Spanish embassy in BKK we applied to a visa to cover the dates 23/06/17 - 01/07/17 and 15/07/17 - 22/07/17 they issued the visa but it is only covered from the 23/06/17 to 16/07/17 and says they visa is for 9 days. They never put any letter to explain why it does not cover the dates that where requested, does anyone have any ideas as to why they have not issued the visa to cover both trips?

Thank you

I think part of the requirements to work at BLS is to be incredibly stupid and totally ignore what anyone is asking them, telephones them today and they are insisting that it is 15 working days not calendar days, so explain to them that it is on the Spanish embassies web site stating 15 Calendar days so they say no you are wrong it is 15 working days, spoke to the embassy who just send you back to BLS total pain in the neck. If anyone is thinking of going to SPAIN I would defiantly think again and go to a different country.

1 hour ago, Donutz said:

An application should not take more then 15 calendar days* but I would not be surprised if the Spanish pretend that those are working days instead.

 

BLS is just an optional party that forwards the paperwork. Not sure if they can say anything at all... I'd contact the Spanish embassy before the end of the week.

 

*or 30 days of papers are missing or more documents are required (which the applicant will of course be asked to submit) or 60 days if the case is forwarded to Madrid for further review incase the embassy cannot make a decision on their own.

Thank you very much for that, I must admit I assumed that it would be 15 working days but as it is 15 calendar days she should get her passport back this week. I will phone the Spanish embassy on Thursday if has not been returned before then but I expect to get the run around from them

13 minutes ago, Crossy said:

What does the Application Tracking on the BLS site say?

 

https://thailand.blsspainvisa.com/

 

Considering the long holidays we've just suffered I would start asking question by the end of this week.

 

it is just saying the same as it was when she applied: 

My mother in law applied for a Spanish visa at the end of March, she is due to fly to the UK on the 30th April if she does not get her passport back by say the 24th April how long does it take to request the passport be returned to her?

Thank you for any info you may be able to give

paying for the Visa in dollars is a rip off paying extra money to apply in Chang Mai another rip off, the real cost of processing an application to the price you pay is another rip off is there anything that the government of the day will not rip people off for?

There is not any reason to wait get it out the way now at present the is No expiry date to the life in the UK test certificate. I dout that will change in the future but there are not any guarantees on that.

Hope it help

1 hour ago, naruk86 said:

just got home to a card from the royal mail to collect something from the sorting office. Could not deliver due to signature being required. My wife hasn't ordered anything so only possibility should be her passport. So in Donutz timescale of 15 calendar day plus 1-2 for delivery

that is still very slow, when I last applied for my wife's Spanish visa in London that was of course free but we had her passport back 4 days after application  

getting a bit worried now mother in law is applying the 30th march and needs her passport back before the 29th April