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Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
All of Thailand's neighbors have dual pricing. Even Singapore practices it. Myanmar, India and Bangladesh have widespread dual pricing policies. Some hotels in Myanmar, mainly those in border areas, have special pricing for Thai and Chinese citizens that are lower than what farang pay. Burmese pay around 50% of the Thai/Chinese rate. Laos, Cambodia and even Taiwan all impose dual pricing. In the case of Taiwan, it's relatively limited and some categories of foreign residents may be entitled to the discount too. Mainland China is the only country in the region without any dual pricing; however, some venues may give a discount to local residents meaning Chinese citizens from other regions pay more. Foreigners however pay the same rate as "out of town" Chinese. China used to practice widespread dual pricing but this was eliminated more than 20 years ago now. Vietnam is the same; some occasional dual pricing at certain tourist attractions, but it's relatively rare. Meanwhile, Myanmar still imposes higher charges for foreigners flying domestically. I think Myanmar practices dual pricing the most; Thailand is probably second in the region in terms of how extensive the practice is. -
Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
Ok I see. -
Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
Yet you would support a policy whereby Thai citizens who don't reside in Thailand pay more for their university education or whatever. I on the other hand, believe citizens should always be treated as having more rights than foreigners. With that stated, I do wish there was more residency based pricing in Thailand and have no issue with residency based schemes for university admissions etc just as long as citizens are always automatically treated as residents. -
Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
Thankfully, I didn't get indoctrinated at a woke British university that discriminates against British people. -
Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
No, it's not fair. Whats the point of citizenship then if citizens are treated so poorly? Better to be a foreigner, as you'll have more rights. -
Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
It's mostly white people being targeted. -
Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
They are, because a British citizen has to pay more than a foreigner if said British citizen has previously resided abroad. That's discrimination and just absurd. If I was British, I'd sue the government for imposing such a ridiculous policy -
Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
Lol, considering the UK discriminates against its own citizens, not sure why you're complaining. -
Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
Informed, accurate and honest. -
Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
So discrimination against their own citizens. A most bizarre concept, but par for the course in a country where foreigners have more rights than locals. -
Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
The UK must be the only country in the world to discriminate against their own citizens. In Thailand, a returning Thai would always be treated as a Thai by showing their ID card or passport, regardless of whether they live here or haven't lived here for a long time. Normally, an ID card or passport is enough to prove entitlement to avail oneself of certain services without having to do something as ridiculous as "prove residency". Not surprised Britain is doing that to its own citizens,we are talking about a country that is throwing out elderly people from seniors homes to make way for illegals and refugees. -
Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
If you're really Thai, why do you need a retirement visa? -
Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
Whether officials would get upset or not when I question their policies by asking them in Thai is immaterial. At the end of the day, I don't think they care one way or another. -
Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
Then clearly you're doing something wrong. If she's British, she should be paying the local price. -
Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
If she's a British citizen she should be paying the British price. -
Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
Thais are terrible at distinguishing between themselves and other Asians, hence why they can get in for the Thai price whereas we westerners generally can't, even if we speak Thai as fluently as David William does. -
Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
You couldn't be more wrong. The woke agenda is most definitely being introduced into Thai society, particularly among left leaning universities such as Thammasart and the youth who protested against the military during Covid and prior to that are very woke. Overall, the agenda simply isn't as advanced as in the west. For better or worse, Thais are nationalist and racially conscious. Most of them, anyway. This means that they'll find nothing wrong with discriminating against foreigners, be they westerners, Indian, black or whatever. -
Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
I am fluent in Thai and go to their Thai language all the time. I've never seen a promotion only for Thais. Last time I flew Thai with my Thai family, my wife paid the same fare as I did and my son paid the child fare, which was the same as for foreigners. -
Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
A pink ID card is NOT proof of Thai citizenship. Acceptable forms of Thai citizenship include a Thai birth certificate indicating you're a Thai citizen by birth (though for anyone old than about 7, this document isn't normally used), a Thai ID card, Thai passport, Thai government ID and a Thai driver's license with a 13 digit Thai ID number on it. Therefore, unless you're a Thai citizen, count yourself lucky if any venue gives you the Thai price for entry. -
Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
Huh? Well, as a Thai citizen, you have the right to be treated without discrimination. You have certain inalienable rights, as a Thai. This does NOT apply to foreigners. Hence why, in the very very rare cases where some racist ticket collector might think he or she can get away with charging a Thai citizen the foreigner price, you have the right to make a stink or even sue them. -
Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
While I agree with your sentiments, I'm not sure there would be any justification for imposing only a small difference in pricing. If the difference between foreigner and Thai pricing at national parks were reduced down to 3 times, then I would see it as being able to attract more foreign visitors, especially expats, but ideally, there would be residency based pricing for us. I still wouldn't visit a national park (except when they run free entry promotions) even if the price difference were reduced down to 3 times from the present 5-10 times -
Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
Which is why dual pricing in Thailand, a much poorer country than Singapore, will never go away as long as wealthier countries are still practicing it. The way forward is for Thailand to drop dual pricing in some settings; reduce the price difference between foreigners and locals; impose more residency based pricing whereby Thai speaking expats holding appropriate ID that proves their residency get in for the same price as locals and finally, always ask for ID to get the Thai price. Never use racial profiling. No Thai ID = you pay the foreigner price. Period. -
Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
Thai Airways doesn't have special pricing for Thais. You're making this up. -
Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
Rofl. Paying more for being white makes me unhappy and thus no possibility of having a good time. I'll have a much better time if I don't go. -
Dual Pricing in Thai Tourism: Economic Necessity or Hidden Bias?
Tomtomtom69 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
Nonsense. Bring along the kids ID card or passport and they'll be charged the Thai rate of course. If there's any dispute about it, call the police.