greenway

Today my wife and I went to the Udon Thani Immigration Office at the Airport around 09:45

Very friendly staff!

Compared with the Nong Khai IMM Office it's a big change for the better.

They give me a number but did help me immediately.

I got the wanted NON IMM O Retirement visa.

I did say to the helping officer that it was, compared to Nong Kha, a nice office.

He told me that it was a temporary one, they want to build a new office in the future.

I did ask him when they start building, he did say in 1, 2 3 or 4 years or never, LOL

So I assume we can use this very nice office many years ahead

Went today to the Office for my 90 day report,open only for address report and re-Entry permits up to now.

Time will tell more.

Any change since October 6th?

I need a one year extension for a Non Imm O Married Visa next week...

I will guess you mean being over age 50 and using the reason you wish to retire? Single entry I expect would be issued on the basis of your age alone. But don't recall any recent posts.

Good guess

I am 66 years old and the reason is retirement.

Live here on Tourist visas already for 17 months, I get a bit tired of the traveling to Laos twice a year , so I wish to have an Non Immigrant O.

I will demand end of this month an Non Immigrant O at the Thai Embassy in Vientiane without a proof of income declaration from the Dutch Embassy.

If they refuse no problem I suppose, then I can obtain again a 2 entree Tourist visa...

Do you have any kind of pension income that your Embassy could write a letter confirming? That would removed the 3 month requirement and you would not have to leave. All you need is the total to be 800k for the year. If you mean you can no longer meet the requirements for extension of stay you would have to use visa entry and in the local area that would likely only be single entry non immigrant O for a 90 day stay or tourist visas for 60 day stays. Border crossing is only 15 days now. The closest place to be sure of getting a multi entry non immigrant O visa valid for a year of 90 day visits would probably be Perth.

If you haver the runds but just not seasoned long enough; before your current permitted to stay expires you need to leave and obtain a new visa to start again. I would get a single entry non immigrant O visa from a Thai Consulate in a nearby country. That will give you a 90 day entry and during the last 30 days you would make your normal yearly extension of stay. You will not have an extension to return to so you will not need a re-entry permit. Your visa ended six years ago so you do not have a multl entry visa.

Hello Lopburi,

I can cope with the demand 800,000 in the bank, OR a monthly income of baht 65,000, OR a combination of both.

Does the Embassy in Vientiane, as far as you know, ask for an income statement from my Embassy when I ask for an Non Immigrant O?

Or do they give without asking for an income proof a single entree Non Immigrant O for a period 3 month?

I am from the Netherlands and are here in Thailand on a 2 entree Tourist visa from Vientiane.

Thanks in advance

Dear King of Thailand,

I wish you a speedy recovery.

I have been living in Thailand for many years and reading Thaivisa, but this is my first post. My current visa is for being over 50 years old and living with my children who are Thai citizens.

Two ago I made a small investment in a Thai private company and they made me a director. Aside from attending an annual meeting, I had no direct involvement with the company. Last week, I was notified that the company and all the directors, including me, have been charged with criminal defamation. Apparently there was some problem with a salesperson, the company sent letters to all its customers, and the salesperson has now filed criminal charges with the court (somehow this is different from filing with the police).

The other directors, all Thai, are treating this very lightly, saying that this happens all the time in Thailand and the worst that can happen is a small fine and a suspended sentance. I checked with my regular lawyer, who told me that in Thailand all the directors were responsible for the actions of the company. He said that I should get a criminal lawyer, have money ready for bail, etc., etc. Then came the real shock -- he said that if the company lost the case, even if the directors only got suspended sentances, I would almost certainly be deported and blacklisted! Needless to say, I am now a nervous wreck as this would destroy my life and my family.

Hoping that one of your readers has knowledge about this kind of situation, I have two questions:

1) It it true that I would be deported and blacklisted?

2) Can anyone recommend a lawyer who specializes in criminal defamation?

Thank you for your assistance.

First things first: Go to a lawyer.

I have to make an urgent trip to Melbourne on Sunday for a heart operation,my non imm -O will expire while I am away.

If all goes ok, is there a Thai Consulate in Melbourne where I can get a one year non-imm O to return on.

Ozzy

It's amazing what Google can do ..

Hmmmm let's see.

"Melbourne Thai Consulate"

Wow .. first hit .. an address and phone number.

All I need after 5 heartattacks in 4 days ,a smart arse answer

I agree with you!

Just ignore and forget a stupid answer like that.

I wish you good luck with the operation.

Relax much as possible and keep smiling as far as possible in your circumstances.

Grtz,

greenthaiway

[When Bogart said to Bergman in Casablanca: "The problems of a few expats in Thailand don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world,"

He was right. Don't expect any big help from any embassies, congressmen, MPs or whatever. As expats, you're on your own in the big world boys and girls. Once you leave mama's skirt, it's sink or swim.

Yeah...

having a yearly retirment visa in my passport untill jan 2008 . i still feel insecre with all these changes coming in october it's a constant worry

would the thai immigration give some security by issuing a 5 year or longer visa having this hassle every year is not good in old age

and having 800000 baht tied up with litttle intrest

800k baht is only tiedupif you cannotproof income of 6k with Embassy letter

I feel I will be able to meet the requirements but who knows...

I do not feel insecure at all but I have a 'b' plan in case I have to leave

A 'b' plan ?

Is that, in case of real trouble, moving to The Philipinnes?

Grtz

No I will keep my permanent residency alive in Japan and also a place to return to if needed

The insecurity (for my life) in the Phillipines makes it a no choice to start with.

Indonesia wouldbe high on my list but the paperwork is very very complicated

I see...

Thanks for the swift reply.

having a yearly retirment visa in my passport untill jan 2008 . i still feel insecre with all these changes coming in october it's a constant worry

would the thai immigration give some security by issuing a 5 year or longer visa having this hassle every year is not good in old age

and having 800000 baht tied up with litttle intrest

800k baht is only tiedupif you cannotproof income of 6k with Embassy letter

I feel I will be able to meet the requirements but who knows...

I do not feel insecure at all but I have a 'b' plan in case I have to leave

A 'b' plan ?

Is that, in case of real trouble, moving to The Philipinnes?

Grtz

The average cost per month for a legal visa is 2,000 baht per month (combo tourist and 30 day visa waver - visa runs via luxury coach). 67 baht per day. For this price you do not have to worry about looking over your shoulder and you have freedom to travel outside of the country at your pleasure.

It seems we all just create our own prisons.

Yeah!

Totally agree with you.

You have peace of mind for 67 THB a day...

Illegal stay in Thailand is coming with unrest in the mind.

What the heck, just pay 67 THB a day and live like a king in France; in Thailand.

Grtz

They seem to come up with these new rules without thinking through the real human effects on their clients. This is again why knowing what I know now, I would advise people not to retire in Thailand. Already done it myself, but wish to help others. What they need to do is provide a visa with much more predictability and security for older retired people. Retirement means moving to the last place you live in your life to most people. Old people don't want to be booted out of their home based on a tiny technicality.

You are absolutely right

There is much, MUCH to do for the Thai Government concerning the visa system in general but more specific for those of 50+

I am myself 64 and will next year retire in Thailand.

Greetings out of The Netherlands

Non immigrant visas are normally issued as single or multi entry. Multi entry is normally a one year version of a non immigrant visa that allows unlimited number of entries for up to 90 days.

Thanks

I just want to state that the consulate in Chicago won't give you multi entry non-immigrant type 'O' based on marriage. They just won't do it. This is an absolute pain as being married to a Thai you should be able to get one. Secondly

other consulates will tell you that you have to go thru the Chicago consulate and that they cannot process an application. They will also tell you that in most cases they do give multi entry non-immigrant type 'O' visas.

Many are now asking for some evidence that you have sufficient income/funds to take care of yourself in Thailand. The Royal Thai Consulate-General in Amsterdam is considered very reasonable. Give them a try, but avoid the Royal Thai Embassy in the Hague.

Thank you sir for the swift reply.

The Royal Thai Consulate-General in Amsterdam it will be.

Grtz

Hello Steffi,

The thread is, IMHO, concerning a Multi Entry Visa.

See:

http://www.thaivisa.com/422.0.html

Question for the experts: I thought a Multi Entry Visa is different from a Non-Immigrant Visa.

Is that right or wrong?

Oh....What a bureaucratic labyrinth!!!

It depends on where you obtain it. In Penang or Singapore yes. In KL, maybe. In other Asia Consulates probably not available at all. In home country may or may not be available but do not believe will be based on pension or income.

Thank you for your reply.

Keep up the good work at this forum!

Many are now asking for some evidence that you have sufficient income/funds to take care of yourself in Thailand. The Royal Thai Consulate-General in Amsterdam is considered very reasonable. Give them a try, but avoid the Royal Thai Embassy in the Hague.

Thank you sir for the swift reply.

The Royal Thai Consulate-General in Amsterdam it will be.

Grtz

Hello Reader,

Sorry, I did post this message some time ago in the wrong forum; visas and migration to other countries.

Hope it will be delete by the moderator.

Here is my question again:

Does a Multiple entry visa need a proof of financial status or pension? ohmy.gif huh.gif

I can't find it in the text below.

Just wondering...

Thanks for your answer in advance, have a good weekend.

Norman

http://www.thaivisa.com/422.0.html

Thursday, 21 December 2006

Multiple entry visa - your best choice!

Multiple-entry Non Immigrant visa / visas / visum

Your best choice is to obtain a multiple entry Non-Immigrant visa which valid for 12 months. With this visa type

you will need to exit and enter Thailand at least every 90 days to get a new entry stamp allowing you to stay a

further 90 days.

If you utilize your visa the last time just before it expire, you will get an extra 3 months "bonus", so the total

validity will be nearly 15 months.

You will probably NOT get a Multiple entry visa in neighboring countries, your best chance of getting it is in

your home country before you arrive in Thailand.

Thai consulates in US, Europe and Australia seem to be the most generous. The smaller consulates in Australia are

the nearest and the easiest, and air tickets to there are cheaper than to Europe or US. A return ticket from

Bangkok to Australia can be bought for less than 25,000 Baht.

The Royal Thai Consulates in Adelaide, Brisbane and Perth in Australia issue Multiple entry visas, as per

September, 2003, we are informed.

If you are married to a Thai citizen, you can easily get a multiple entry visa in Penang. Bring your Thai marriage

certificate in original (and one copy) and check out our forum for more details.

Hello Reader,

Does a Multiple entry visa need a proof of financial status or pension?

I can't find it in the text below.

Just wondering...

Thanks for your answer in advance, have a good weekend.

Norman

http://www.thaivisa.com/422.0.html

Thursday, 21 December 2006

Multiple entry visa - your best choice!

Multiple-entry Non Immigrant visa / visas / visum

Your best choice is to obtain a multiple entry Non-Immigrant visa which valid for 12 months. With this visa type

you will need to exit and enter Thailand at least every 90 days to get a new entry stamp allowing you to stay a

further 90 days.

If you utilize your visa the last time just before it expire, you will get an extra 3 months "bonus", so the total

validity will be nearly 15 months.

You will probably NOT get a Multiple entry visa in neighboring countries, your best chance of getting it is in

your home country before you arrive in Thailand.

Thai consulates in US, Europe and Australia seem to be the most generous. The smaller consulates in Australia are

the nearest and the easiest, and air tickets to there are cheaper than to Europe or US. A return ticket from

Bangkok to Australia can be bought for less than 25,000 Baht.

The Royal Thai Consulates in Adelaide, Brisbane and Perth in Australia issue Multiple entry visas, as per

September, 2003, we are informed.

If you are married to a Thai citizen, you can easily get a multiple entry visa in Penang. Bring your Thai marriage

certificate in original (and one copy) and check out our forum for more details.

Thanks for your reply, I will follow your advice.

You brought some light in the darkness :-]

It is clear to me now.

Greetings out of Holland!

Not only for 6o plus....believe me,it is all just nah,to many to tell you.Anyway we are from the same country and my mother got it in A'dam,so just get your visa there without a problem.You will not need 800k in a thaibank.This is only for retirement purposus,they will give you a nonO.If they ask you for what purpuse you say to explore retirement in Thailand.And cause you are almost on retirement it is exactly right.

But when you plan to stay in Thailand longstay,if you want to stay comfortably you should get a retirementvisa sooner or later,you can change the nonO to a retirement one(when staying in Thai),but in that time you should have the 800k or 65k a month requirement to prove immigration to give you the extension for stay.If you think it is too much for now ,just stay on your nonO and get the retirement one the next time.If you can have the finances together and have your RVisa you can leave to Holland and come back on the same visa,but you need to obtain a re-permit at imm,so you not have to obtain a new visa all the time and just extend once a year.Looks complicated but not really is.....get your nonO first.

Hello all responders, thanks for the answers! :-]

Well...

I was thinking of asking at the Dutch consulate in Amsterdam a Multiple entry visa.

To be precise this one: http://www.thaivisa.com/422.0.html

Is it right that it is a "plain" Non Immigrant Visa?

I mean without the B, O, OA etc.etc. options.

It looks interesting for my case.

Quote:

"Your best choice is to obtain a multiple entry Non-Immigrant visa which valid for 12 months. With this visa type you will need to exit and enter Thailand at least every 90 days to get a new entry stamp allowing you to stay a further 90 days.

If you utilize your visa the last time just before it expire, you will get an extra 3 months "bonus", so the total validity will be nearly 15 months"

End of Quote.

The case is this;

I live at the moment in The Netherlands. I have a rental in Thailand. A own house in The Netherlands.

My age is at the moment 63, next June I will be 64. In 2008, at the age of 65 I will get a state pension. From that moment off I would like to stay in Thailand for variable periods. Variable periods because I intent to return to my country for visiting my children and grandchild. For that reason it seems to be a good idea to ask for a "plain" Non Immigrant Visa, that is to say IF there is such a Visa. I intent to stay in Thailand some times 9 month, sometimes 15 month, it depends on the situation at the time.

The question is do I have to reserve 800k at the bank in Thailand or not?

At the moment I think there will be no such demand for this mentioned visa.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

The whole Thai Visa matter is very vague to me, I do not think that this has to do with getting older, at least I hope not.

Maybe time for the Thai Government to simplify the Visa rules drastically, at least for the 60+ group of Farangs ;-]

Grtz

Multiple entry Non-Immigrant question...

Is for a Multiple entry Non-Immigrant visa 800k or income above 65k required?

Thanks in advance.

Hello Sir,

I will have as retirement starts 45k, my age will be 65 then.

How much money I need to have at the bank account with this monthly 45k?

Thanks in advance

If you had over 40k retirement. over age 50, you would need less than 300k in a bank account to use retirement and not have to get married.

Hi, over a year ago I needed stretched canvas for oil painting and after some months looking and asking around I had to bring some over from the UK. Stupid thing is they were actually produced in China. Does anyone know where I might buy these, preferably in the area of Ubon, Sisaket or Surin, but I am prepared to go anywhere. I am able to buy oil paint ect. in Sisaket but they cannot help with the canvas.

Phusingpete,

Please inform us if you succeeded in finding

your canvas and / or other painters materials.

At he moment I live in The Netherlands but

in the nearby future I'll settle down in the Issan

and hope to paint a lot over there.

Hope to hear one of these days from you,

Grtz

Norman

Hi KL.

Do you have any pix of the houses?

If you need help with uploading the pics please PM me.

Unfortunately I do not at present as I am working in Iraq and last December I purchased these two houses just before I left to go back to Iraq. I will get some Pics this time (as I will be there on the 7th March for 3 weeks) and post them.

Well Koratlover,

What about the pictures? Have you take some?

Hope you came well out of Irak!

Grtz,

Norman