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Lived there for a few years, nice area., except taxis would not always want ro go there as traffic can be bad

On Saturday, December 30, 2017 at 8:13 PM, poanoi said:

given that thai woman are OK with not getting paid for the effort of living with a thai man,
in contrast to living with a foreigner, i'd say odds are they chose a thai man if given the choice

This

Buy lots of good food and stay inside the whole time, and you will be safe

think...is it because you are so incredibly handsome?

On Saturday, August 05, 2017 at 7:25 AM, choff56 said:

It's a "phenomenon" caused by a repressive Thai Feudal system.

Ehhh? No, lol

Cute Spanish accent, but really, he as a spaniard should really clean up the mess in his home coumtry first, the barbaric bull runs, human tower stupidity, bull fights,  and childish and stupid tomato fights and the list goes on...

2 hours ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

you dont know enough to judge the situation. my son at 5 years old can form his own opinions on people. i have never know her dad to say anything bad about thai people. the mum has caused him a lot of problems however. good job by who?

I think it is pretty obvious that a 6 year old who questions here own heritage and culture, MUST be very influenced by their parents, or by some other influential adult very close to them. 

Good job? Probably the father for teaching her to look down on 50% of herself.

2 hours ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

her daughter is a sharp young girl who has formed her own opinion. her dad has tried to keep a good relationship between her and her mum without success.

It is not normal, I would say impossible, to analyse and develop a strong dislike towards ones own race and culture at the age of 6 without the parents influence. 

The 6 year old girl has learned to look down on 50% of herself and her own heritage.

Great job!

16 hours ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

where did you get that idea? i have been hanging around with her dad for the last few months as my son goes to the same school as his daughter. he is a great chilled out guy. again where did you get that idea? seriously.

"he has a 6 year old half thai daughter

she has a very strong dislike for thai people and does not fit in at her school very well

when her parents split up she refused to live with her thai mum. "

2 hours ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

went out to dinner with a friend of mine last week. he has a 6 year old half thai daughter. the whole time we were there the table full of thai men sitting next to us were leering at her. she has a very strong dislike for thai people ...she refused to live with her thai mum.

wow, she must be very grateful for her parents that taught her to hate 50% of herself and her own culture...

Wow, this is the second time I have heard a foreigner scammed a Thai lady, usually I hear about 10 stories per day, where a Thai woman scam and destroy a foreigners life, savings and dreams

I feel proud being a whitey farang!

A whitey farang working probably without WP, no good!

A nightmare for the country,.....how about for all the fearful tourists and expats who live here waiting for their own kick to the head ?

As long as you don't escalate stuff like they did the risks are not that high. The old lady hit a guy in his face before it all started and then her hubby helped her. Just because her son shoved a Thai and got shoved back.

They certainly did not help their case.. yes the violence in response was over the top and should be punished.. but they were certainly not innocent.

This is what I have been saying the whole time. Sure it was brutal, and they did not deserve this level of violence, it was totally disgusting, but in all honesty, they were far from innocent.

The Brits attacked the Thais first.

Nobody reads books in Bangkok. Unless you include reading text on your smartphone.

Sure, which is why the book store Kinokuniya expanded and opened more branches. Because nobody's reading books. But hey, great comment. Really useful and not dumb at all. Nice one.

What do you expect? TiT (Thaivisa is Thaivisa)

We have to remember, in the eyes of many Thais, (we are whitey farang) that is, extremely different from Thais, we are "the other", "them". So it is is easy to gather and fight against "the other".

To be fair though, it seemed like these old people were not exactly trying to avoid the confrontation. Seemed like the old lady tried to lecture some of the Thais, something I see over and over again here, which in all fairness I can see why some Thais gets annoyed at. No one wants to be belittled.

Furthermore, it seemed like the old lady physically attacked one of the Thais before she had it coming.

If you are in another country and some tension arises, just eject yourself from the situation. Not defending the Thais action here, but they could probably have avoided the attacks.

But farang is farang, "them", "the other", "the different one", just keep that in mind when you are here, and keep cool, and you will minimize the risks.

She shouldn't feel too bad, there are plenty of UK men who got 'scammed' out of a heck of a lot more by Thai women who needed money to take care of their buffalo!

Why is that funny?

Note that Don Mega asked to go from full time to part time. If your employee did not ask to do so I believe he would be justified to request labor dept assistance if he felt he was not treated fairly. Now that you have a mixed bag of opinions, why not just ask the labor dept for an official answer.

Yes, I noticed that, and yes, its probably different from my case.

And to correct myself in an earlier reply, I wanted to say "Yeah, but that I think is a little cynic, I would NOT want to do that." I forgot the word not.

I would consider reducing a person's hours is dismissal at that time and the employee would be due to benifits at that date. He was a full time employee so your part time employment is new employment.

Are you sure about this? That a full time employee, for some reason, will be transferred to a part time position, automatically is viewed as a new employment? Or is that just an assumption?

I asked to go from full time to part time.

Was told A new work contract would have to be drawn up to update new work hours/salary and in the event of a redundancy it would be calculated on the new salary.

Interesting, thank you for your input.

Yes, I thought it was extremely unrealistic. I talked to Thai business owners about this and their consensus was they would have made him lose face in front of other staff and he would have walked.

Cost would equal zero.

Yeah, but that I think is a little cynic, I would want to do that.

wow, that sounds absolutely horrible. With a misbehaving employee with gross misconduct, and he still got the Labour Board on his side??

I heard, but not sure if that is true, that if you get the employee to sign that he understands the misconduct, and agree to better himself, and he still fail, employees are not entitled to any severance pay whatsoever when firing him/her.

The Labour Board told us that to dismiss an employee with no comeback from them we had to give the employee 3 documented disciplinaries for the same reason/offence.

In our case, most of the disciplinaries were for legitimate, but different, reasons (such as him losing the plot in front of other staff and telling the General Manager to f-off because he was doing things his way, not the way he had been instructed, and that was that).

At the end of the day you just have to learn from it and move on. The guy was hired because he had something extra; in his case it turned out to be a little too much.

The only other two ways I know are if the employee signs a resignation letter, or if they quit and don't turn up for 3 days.

Yes, this is what I have heard as well. But did not hear it had to be 3 of the same reasons? So an employee can pretty much do whatever, as long as he did not receive 3 of the same documented disciplinaries. That is kinda crazy.

Yeah, sometimes when the guys know they have something valuable, they become difficult to employe.

I would consider reducing a person's hours is dismissal at that time and the employee would be due to benifits at that date. He was a full time employee so your part time employment is new employment.

Are you sure about this? That a full time employee, for some reason, will be transferred to a part time position, automatically is viewed as a new employment? Or is that just an assumption?

wow, that sounds absolutely horrible. With a misbehaving employee with gross misconduct, and he still got the Labour Board on his side??

I heard, but not sure if that is true, that if you get the employee to sign that he understands the misconduct, and agree to better himself, and he still fail, employees are not entitled to any severance pay whatsoever when firing him/her.

Over 3 years = 180 days pay. Plus you have to give them 30 days notice or pay an additional 30 days pay.

You could try and get away with paying the current monthly rate. If the employee goes to the labour office (they have nothing to lose in doing so) you might be encouraged to pay the average monthly rate over the last 12 months.

Why do you think so, that I might be encouraged to do so (pay average of the last 12 mont)?

Not saying you are wrong, just curious what you base your assumption on, any experience with a similar case?

I don't have experience with a similar case, however I have experience with employees going to the Labour Board. The company I previously worked for lost every case, even though we truly believed we had done the right thing. On each occasion we were encouraged by the mediator to offer more. We did, and the former employee rejected the offer.

As I said, you can pay them the least amount possible and see what comes of it.

Another option is to offer them a little bit more to sign a resignation form. Once they sign that, you are covered.

Interesting, thank you for your input. So after you offered the employee more, and he still rejected, what happened?