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2 hours ago, JimMorris said:

Thank you. For the first extension the paperwork is a bit different though. I needed to first show that the money is in the account when applying for the 90 day extension. Then I will need to show the money is still in the account 60 days later when I apply for the 1 year extension. With the renewal of 1 year extension however I will need to show that the money has been in the account for 3 months prior. So the documentation I will need will be slightly different. That is what I had asked what sort of paperwork do they want to see to show that the money has been in the account for 3 months prior to applying for the 1 year extension renewal. So I am assuming 3 months of my most recent bank statements and a letter from the bank reconfirming the balance in the account will suffice. 

 

I am still curious though how long prior to expiration of the 1 year extension should I apply for the new 1 year extension. Typically I think you can apply for visa renewals/extensions up to one month prior to expiration of your current visa.

Jim the documents required for your first and any subsequent retirement extensions is exactly the same

, but be sure to check for any additional requirements that immigration may have come up with in the year

since your last application.

The only thing different is the seasoning  for the money in the bank, it is 60 days on your initial extension

and 90 day on all extension renewals after that. This difference does not in any way affect the required

documentation for any extension.

I am not 100% sure but I believe some I.Offices will accept applications up to 45 days early but I don't know

which ones. You can also wait until the last day of your current extension is you like life on the edge.

9 hours ago, JimMorris said:

I received my 90 day visa with no difficulty at all. Worth noting is that during the 15 day review period that you are not permitted to leave the country. But probably very few people would plan to leave during that period anyway.

 

With regards to the annual renewals (once you have the one year visa) and when you are required to show that the money has been in your account for at least 90 days prior to renewal, what sort of documented evidence do they typically require for this? I assume 3 months of printed bank statements would be enough?

 

Also, how long prior to expiration of your existing 1 year visa do you need to apply for the renewal?

Jim the requirements for renewing your one year extension of your permission to stay on the grounds of retirement

( it is NOT a VISA. ) are exactly the same as the requirements for your initial application which is also not a visa.

So just retain all the paperwork from your initial application and you will be good for any subsequent renewals.

14 hours ago, Dumbastheycome said:

It  needs  to  start  somewhere.  Street  vendors  do  not regularly  purchase  from convenience  outlets  but   from  bulk  wholesale outlets which  do  not  themselves  provide   plastic   bags ! (   Makro as  an  example )

Plastics  in the  form of   films  are  not  an issue  in terms  of   bulk.

Nor  are  they  such an issue  in terms  of  disposal than  that in  the still  too  common disposal systems  of   landfill   that  they are  conveniently  allowed  to  defeat the  decomposition of   contents by  being  left  intact.

Currently  the    bulk  of   recyclable plastics globally in  the multitudious forms derived  from   petrochemicals is  in excess of demand  for  economically viable byproduct. 

A  major  problem  in  that  is  the  introduction   of  so  called  "bio  degradable" plastics which is actually a  misnomer  for  self  disentegrating  but  not   bio  degraded  compounds. Such  compounds  have  been  identified  in  creating  environmental disturbances that  in the  long  term  are   as serious  if  not  more  so than landfill issues.

Plastics in  the film form of  convenient  disposal  is  a  pollutant  that  needs  to  be  expunged   rapidly  if  not  immediately !

That  the  general  public  has  been  deceived into  the  expectation that a  plastic  bag  is  a normal  and  viable  part  of   every and any  transaction is  purely  in the  interests of  the  manufacturer and  associated marketeers. 

The  sad reality  is  that  on the  part  of  the  consumer who  only  requires  2  items is  compelled  to  buy  10 in  pre  packaged sealed plastic  format which  is  the  dutifully presented  in at  least  one  plastic  bag  if  not  two to  the  satisfaction  of  the  customer who as  dutifully   disposes  of   same  to  the  ground sometime  later could  be  solved  quickly  by   introducing a  prohibitive  tax  on  the  dispensors  of  plastic  bags !

 

 

 

 

I'm sorry , if you think Makro do not provide plastic bags then you do not use Makro very often or are

decidedly unobservant.

All of the locals and many expats, including myself, go straight to the veggie/fruit section to pick up 

as many of the large plastic bags that they think they may need and pack their purchases in them at

the check out.

Have a look around you if you ever actually use Makro?

It is not a plastic bag issue it is a litter awareness education issue.

Guess you'll be havng a bleak Xmas dinner 555.

14 hours ago, JimMorris said:

Thanks, that is great to know. A lawyer had also confirmed for me recently that it is acceptable as well. As you didn't mention though, I assume your FCD in GBP is at a Thai bank and not on deposit in another country. I may also use an FCD on deposit at a Thai bank. Hopefully they don't tell me it is not acceptable since it is not written anywhere on the immigration website:

 

https://www.immigration.go.th/content/service_80

My account is SCB Phuket branch Jim. 

4 minutes ago, tryasimight said:

Good idea but it might take longer than you think.

I doubt if a petrochemical based plant/refinery can swing over to what is basically an agricultural product quickly, or if they would even want to.

A whole new facility would need to be funded and built. Suitable feedstock would need to be found or land purchased for the plants to be grown (a lot of them). Then you have the harvesting and transport costs to the processing plant. If the new plant was built in a rural area, then the owner would have to be assured of a guaranteed power and water supply and the availability of suitably skilled workers.

It can all be done - but it's not done overnight.

Of course the bags could always be imported.

Some of the more aware supermarkets are already using biodegradable plastic bags.

35 minutes ago, natway09 said:

As the manufacturers say it is not the bag, it is how it is used & disposed of.

The klongs are full of them, just discarded by folks who do not understand & do not care

Somewhat akin to  the responsibility of driving a car here, just no thought for anyone but themselves

34 minutes ago, digger70 said:

First Cigarette Butts Now Plastic Bags,,,,, Why not Fix the Real Problem,,,, The real problem is the People Including the government ..start with supplying rubbish bins ,then collect them at regular intervals maybe twice a week.than Fine /jail the ones who just drop rubbish everywhere ,that would be 95% of Thai people.

You are both correct this is not a plastic bag problem it is a litter awareness problem.

2 hours ago, ebean001 said:

Charging more may help but not by too much. The answer is

Biodegradable Paper Bags

 

They need to replace plastic altogether. do you really think the drink guy will charge you for the little plastic bag that holds your drink cup? No...he will eat the cost or charge you 5 b more.

Biodegradable Paper Bags are available. Countries need to use them to lower the coat.

I do not know anymore on this subject but I did read it takes 180 days for the bag to degrade.

 

 

http://www.allaboutbags.ca/papervplastic.html

This is just one of many websites that dispell your myth.

3 hours ago, quandow said:

This is state law in California, and once you get accustomed to it, it's easy to comply. Now, they use only paper bags (plastic is outlawed), and if you need some paper bags it's a trivial cost, and you can also choose to bring your own bags at no cost to your pocketbook NOR the environment. And, as a scuba diver, I can't tell you HOW many times I saw plastic bags in the Thai waters. These kill turtles who think they are jellyfish, eat them, then plug up their intestines to death.

The difference in cost, and to the environment, of paper versus plastic bags is enormous, look it up

you will be surprised.

On 12/9/2017 at 12:35 AM, JimMorris said:

I was just wondering if you show the 800,000 Baht in the bank when you get your 90 day extension, are you still expected to show the full 800,000 Baht again 60-90 days later when you convert the visa from the 90 day visa to the full one year retirement visa?

 

Assuming you are supposed to be using this money to live on for expenses while you are in Thailand, I would expect it would be acceptable if your balance had dropped by 65,000 Baht a month between the time you got the 90 day extension and the date when you convert it to the full one year?

Jim you don't appear to have a grasp of either the procedures or the terminology.

Uj has given you all the relevant info you will need but you seem to be adopting your own

interpretation of things.

After your initial 30 day entry you will apply for a non 'O' 90 day visa, not a 90 day extension.

then during that 90 days you can apply for an extension of your permission to stay on the

grounds of retirement, more commonly referred to as a retirement extension, it is NOT a visa,

there is no such thing as a retirement visa and visas cannot be extended. 

Once you have obtained your initial retirement extension you can re-new you extension year

after year using the same procedure as you did for your first one, it really is that simple.

On 10/23/2017 at 4:00 PM, Paul9989 said:

On the 800,000 Baht in a Thai bank financial requirement for a one year retirement visa, I wonder if they would accept the equivalent in a foreign currency in a Thai bank in a foreign currency account?

I have been using an FCD account in GBP for my retirement extension at Phuket office for the last 9 years no problem.

20 hours ago, bazza73 said:

Wow. Do you enjoy spending your life as a doormat?

What an inane comment to make, but it does indicate what kind of person you are

and how feeble your intellect must be to have to ignore someone you are unable to

deal with verbally on an anonymous forum, strange really.

None, If I put someone on an ignore list I would consider that a failure on my part.

21 hours ago, madmax2 said:

Was the new certificate of residence required because you had travelled overseas

2 hours ago, Badrabbit said:

Why do I need to 're register my address when I have lived at the same address for the last 5 yrs, I left the country in Jan and didn't 're register, next 90 day was fine, now immigration say yes you must 're register after my recent 're entry last month. Why??

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I too have gone nowhere since 2011 and also do not know why they are asking for this now,

the io just said next report I would need a new certificate of residence????

Sorry all this thread is actually about doing 90 day reports at Phuket immigration , not about online 90 ,day reporting

which is I know a pain for many but there are also umpteen threads on the subject, so can you please use any one of

them, thanks

I did my 90 day at Phuket immigration today, must have been the fastest one ever in and out in less than 2 minutes

I kid you not.

No paperwork required just my passport.

I was informed that I would be required to submit a fresh document for certificate of residence on my next visit and

issued with a slip of paper with the necessary instruction on how to do this.

On 9/17/2017 at 1:50 AM, scoutman360 said:

The only thing that matters is the alcohol content. Who cares what the label says, as long as it tastes good and packs a good punch.

I must say I agree but unfortunately the wanabee wine connaisseurs and wine snobs

( boring lot ) wish to force their dubious knowledge down everyones throats, please leave

people alone to make their own choices.

21 minutes ago, bobnuts said:

Just curious, though I'm sure an hour or ten spent searching would also tell me. Can I make a 'Non Immigrant O based on marriage' extension on the back of a 30 day visa exempt entry or do I need to make application for some sort of visa first? Secondly can this all be done in country or MUST I return to UK first. Currently I'm residing in various ME countries, not been to UK in years.

 

Thanks

 

I believe that it is possible to convert from a visa exempt entry to a non imm, "O" at most immigration offices

and then apply for an extension of your stay based on marriage to a Thai national.

I see UJ has answered, he is far more knowledgeable then myself so his advice is solid.

41 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Thanks for your help guys. 

 

I'll come back and let you know how I get on after I submit for my visa in December. 

Chommper to help you understand the procedure you will need to apply for a non 'O" 90 day visa,

this is a stepping stone to applying for an extension of your permission to stay on the grounds of

marriage to a Thai national, it is not a visa.

The last 30 days of your 90 day non imm "O" visa you can apply for your marriage extension, providing

you have the necessary funds/evidence of income and all the paperwork required.

There are many threads on the paperwork/finances required to obtain a marriage extension, good luck,

it is,by all accounts, not that difficult, but does take time and patience, just take it one step at a time

48 minutes ago, Mattd said:

Yes, totally agree, to us it is, I was just being pedantic really, as for whatever reason, it is not officially called a retirement visa, in fact they seem to go out of their way not to call it that.

I am sorry Mattd but using the correct terminology is in no way pedantic.

Using the incorrect terminology is often misleading to many people and

can and does lead to unending confusion. There is no Retirement VISA

there is only, when talking about retirement, a retirement extension, nothing

more, and it is not an extension of a visa which cannot be extended.

2 hours ago, flyingfox1 said:

I actually got in Thailand on a 90 day tourist visa that expires in December but have now changed it to O retirement visa it also expires in December lol - but I’m told I can go in again to extend for 1yr multi entry in November so I will be have the my old type 1 yr multi entry again but you guys out there on the same” check your dates and mark in on your calendar cos it’s a pain to keep going over the system!!!


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There is no such thing as a retirement Visa of any kind.

I can never get my head round why people like you, and many others, when given clear

knowledgeable advice from people who know what they are talking about ( ubonjoe )

you just completely ignore it and keep making stupid statements that are blatantly

incorrect.

2 minutes ago, Neeranam said:

I want to buy using an online credit card, entropay. I don't think a shop will accept this. I see one for 24,800

Or the rise pink for 25k. Can a man but a pink phone?

I suppose you could buy a manly colour cover for it lol.

Neernam I don't know if it is relevant or not but that price for the S8+

at Lazada is almost exactly what most shops are charging for the S8

minus the plus??

39 minutes ago, BritTim said:

The first part of what you state is undoubtedly correct. Thailand is a country where the rule of law only applies to a very shaky extent. A visitor needs to be aware:

• The regulations in the Thailand Immigration Act of 1979
• Ministerial Orders that qualify the effects of the Act
• Local rules applied by some immigration officials in some locations that occasionally conflict with the documented regulations. This last set of rules is difficult to acquaint yourself with. Besides being dependent, on the individual official your nationality, age and general appearance, together with the lengths of your visit to Thailand and all kinds of other factors apply. Since those local rules are undocumented, we need to mostly go on anecdotal reports that identify where the problem officials tend to be concentrated.

I do not dispute that occasional visitors to Thailand for short periods do not need to worry if they come from rich Western nations. Those who want to visit their significant others here on a regular basis, or who (for instance) have Indian nationality are well advised to try to avoid becoming casualties of local rules.

 

The last part of what you say "it is not going to change" is very unlikely to be the case. Undocumented changes to the way certain officials behave is, sadly, set to continue in the future as it has in the past. Recognizing when that happens is one of the prime functions of this board

 

If anything perhaps I should have added for the better.