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He probably just didn't know. The schools and Universities today, are in most cases, staffed by professors with their own political ax to grind. The fact that the United States liberated Europe doesn't exactly fix squarely with their agenda so they don't teach it. He hates America out of his own ignorance.

If you read a proper history book, rather than the Hollywood one you got that from, you will find the war was won by the combined ally services, not Ben Afleck alone.

It will also tell you that the Americans wouldn't fight for 3 years, until the Japan talked you into it and as someone else said that was 70 years ago. Perhaps we should bring up the Romans who invaded my country 2000 years ago, I guess it was the US that liberated us then, probably Charlton Heston though.

Get real, this is 2012.

Seriously. I tried to respond to him (I'm a fellow American) with this, but it would not post for some reason:

You may want to give credit for that liberation also to the thousands of Brits,Russians, Canadiens, Aussies, Yugoslavians, and countless underground insurgents from nearly every occcupied country who fought and died in greater numbers than our American grandparents and parents did. I start off attacking the Dutch guy for bashing America but then I end up embarrased by posts like this that say the "US liberated Europe" as if we did it alone. Really, it's embarrassing.

As a Brit - I will certainly say that you didn't do it alone! I grew up being told that Monty and the Brits fought back the Nazis with a little late help from the Yanks. Have read the history, this is, frankly, spurious (with a 'u'!). Without the US personnel (not just the weaponry etc), Normandie landings would never have been possible. Without their leadership and competence, we would not have made it over the beachheads.

BTW - You forgot all those Poles... Hard as coffin nails those chaps.

You Brits never loose wars because you are on the right side. I am Asian/Thai. My Grandfather was Indian and he used to say we Indians will only fight for English speaking people. I believe he did not include America when he said this. Have a good time in Thailand

I've lived in the Middle East and when the US Embassy gives out a "warning" they have a "heads up" on something; however, the warning is so general and nonspecific that it seems like no warning at all. Just try your best to stay away from restaurants, bars, even hotels that are basically geared for Westerners. Personally, I no longer stay in the international 4-5 star chains anymore because they have been targets in various countries... Sri Lanka, India, Indonesia, Kenya, Egypt, Turkey... the list continues.

Best you go back home NOW

As an American who has worked/ lived overseas for some 30+ years (including 15 years in the Middle East) I must apologize for the government's behavior of trying to "police the world". The attack on Iraq (have friends that lived there) to liberate them did more harm for America's reputation than good. As you know after 9-11, the USA had the whole world's sympathy, including where I was working at the time, in Saudi Arabia. After bombing the #hit out of Baghdad because Saddam supposedly had weapons of mass destruction, totally was uncalled for. My American friends (who never travel abroad) believe the propaganda that is thrown at them...they quickly forgot the US troops were there for WMD's but believed we were there to fight "terrorists" and to give Iraq democracy. Well, there were NO terrorist in Iraq until the Western troops moved in. The American culture tends to use "patiotism" as a way to get support from its citizens. If you try to say the truth or disagree with the norm, you are labeled "anti-American or unpatriotic.Currently all the Republican candidates have to suppport the Iraq and Afgan wars and they are all hawks towards attacking Iran. Yes, the USA fortunately became involved in liberating countries from Japan and Germany back in WWII - but that was ages ago.The involvement in the Vietnam War.. Iraq war could have been avoided. Terrorism is a problem for the free world now days (due to narrow minded Islamic terrorists) and the free world needs to work together to fight against this danger of the 21st Century-- not depend on one or two countries to "take care of them."

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You start off by saying a lot of truths about American misdoings. And end with saying 'Terrorism is a problem for the free world now days (due to narrow minded Islamic terrorists)'

The American actions created the terrorists. In my humble opinion as a Asian/Thai which most Asians would agree, if I hit somebody he/she will come back to hit me. Especially, if I bomb their homes and murder their family. I would be stupid to think I can do that and expect the victims to forget my crimes.

i guess that explains the thai southern provinces terrorism against thai's then

Toenail...very well said. It's great to hear a balanced American view. Fundamentalism of any kind is always narrow minded.

sadly so. The problem got much worse when Thaksin was in power. He invited many US advisers and like the Philippines now we have a bigger problem. Many Asians consider American thought to be 'fundamentalism'. I have an old Indian friend, 85 years old, and he says when America enters a country it usually destroys it before leaving. It started with America itself. They destroyed the red man, and more recently, somalia, vietnam, cambodia, afghanistan, lebannon, laois, iran, south america and the list goes on. That is why in Thailand we have limited visas for you

As an American who has worked/ lived overseas for some 30+ years (including 15 years in the Middle East) I must apologize for the government's behavior of trying to "police the world". The attack on Iraq (have friends that lived there) to liberate them did more harm for America's reputation than good. As you know after 9-11, the USA had the whole world's sympathy, including where I was working at the time, in Saudi Arabia. After bombing the #hit out of Baghdad because Saddam supposedly had weapons of mass destruction, totally was uncalled for. My American friends (who never travel abroad) believe the propaganda that is thrown at them...they quickly forgot the US troops were there for WMD's but believed we were there to fight "terrorists" and to give Iraq democracy. Well, there were NO terrorist in Iraq until the Western troops moved in. The American culture tends to use "patiotism" as a way to get support from its citizens. If you try to say the truth or disagree with the norm, you are labeled "anti-American or unpatriotic.Currently all the Republican candidates have to suppport the Iraq and Afgan wars and they are all hawks towards attacking Iran. Yes, the USA fortunately became involved in liberating countries from Japan and Germany back in WWII - but that was ages ago.The involvement in the Vietnam War.. Iraq war could have been avoided. Terrorism is a problem for the free world now days (due to narrow minded Islamic terrorists) and the free world needs to work together to fight against this danger of the 21st Century-- not depend on one or two countries to "take care of them."

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You start off by saying a lot of truths about American misdoings. And end with saying 'Terrorism is a problem for the free world now days (due to narrow minded Islamic terrorists)'

The American actions created the terrorists. In my humble opinion as a Asian/Thai which most Asians would agree, if I hit somebody he/she will come back to hit me. Especially, if I bomb their homes and murder their family. I would be stupid to think I can do that and expect the victims to forget my crimes.

i guess that explains the thai southern provinces terrorism against thai's then

Yes sadly so. Our police and army do not always act in the best interest of the country. But we are still Thais together.

As an American who has worked/ lived overseas for some 30+ years (including 15 years in the Middle East) I must apologize for the government's behavior of trying to "police the world". The attack on Iraq (have friends that lived there) to liberate them did more harm for America's reputation than good. As you know after 9-11, the USA had the whole world's sympathy, including where I was working at the time, in Saudi Arabia. After bombing the #hit out of Baghdad because Saddam supposedly had weapons of mass destruction, totally was uncalled for. My American friends (who never travel abroad) believe the propaganda that is thrown at them...they quickly forgot the US troops were there for WMD's but believed we were there to fight "terrorists" and to give Iraq democracy. Well, there were NO terrorist in Iraq until the Western troops moved in. The American culture tends to use "patiotism" as a way to get support from its citizens. If you try to say the truth or disagree with the norm, you are labeled "anti-American or unpatriotic.Currently all the Republican candidates have to suppport the Iraq and Afgan wars and they are all hawks towards attacking Iran. Yes, the USA fortunately became involved in liberating countries from Japan and Germany back in WWII - but that was ages ago.The involvement in the Vietnam War.. Iraq war could have been avoided. Terrorism is a problem for the free world now days (due to narrow minded Islamic terrorists) and the free world needs to work together to fight against this danger of the 21st Century-- not depend on one or two countries to "take care of them."

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You start off by saying a lot of truths about American misdoings. And end with saying 'Terrorism is a problem for the free world now days (due to narrow minded Islamic terrorists)'

The American actions created the terrorists. In my humble opinion as a Asian/Thai which most Asians would agree, if I hit somebody he/she will come back to hit me. Especially, if I bomb their homes and murder their family. I would be stupid to think I can do that and expect the victims to forget my crimes.

Many think the smile is sincere, but once someone has trouble deThai has no mercy

Yes, a Thai once told me that if a farang is down, the Thais will 'stick in the boot', so to speak, meaning they will kick you while you are down. I remember clearly when he told me this, long before I started to live here. I now know how true it is. You only have to see how the immigration officials enjoy their job when they have you for something, like no re-entry permit on a retirement visa - they just lurv to see you suffer. I've never trusted the Thai smile in most situations, although it is not always a fake thing and has its up side.

It is sad you say that and makes me wonder if it is true. For my part, I used to like Americans until I met them. And after reading this forum for about a week, I find it very difficult to trust or like Americans anymore.

Maybe something to do with those crass US soldiers pi**ing on the bodies of Taliban fighters? That has really riled an already riled Muslim community against anything NATO-related.

It could indeed be related to that and also the heating up of the soft war with Iran. We can't read minds though, can we? Perhaps they'll send a text.

That is such a terrible thing to do. It appears the leader of the 'free world' can act quite freely in the most shameful manner and boast about it. Disgusting

He probably just didn't know. The schools and Universities today, are in most cases, staffed by professors with their own political ax to grind. The fact that the United States liberated Europe doesn't exactly fix squarely with their agenda so they don't teach it. He hates America out of his own ignorance.

If you read a proper history book, rather than the Hollywood one you got that from, you will find the war was won by the combined ally services, not Ben Afleck alone.

It will also tell you that the Americans wouldn't fight for 3 years, until the Japan talked you into it and as someone else said that was 70 years ago. Perhaps we should bring up the Romans who invaded my country 2000 years ago, I guess it was the US that liberated us then, probably Charlton Heston though.

Get real, this is 2012.

Seriously. I tried to respond to him (I'm a fellow American) with this, but it would not post for some reason:

You may want to give credit for that liberation also to the thousands of Brits,Russians, Canadiens, Aussies, Yugoslavians, and countless underground insurgents from nearly every occcupied country who fought and died in greater numbers than our American grandparents and parents did. I start off attacking the Dutch guy for bashing America but then I end up embarrased by posts like this that say the "US liberated Europe" as if we did it alone. Really, it's embarrassing.

Yes, I do sympathise with you. Being an American must be embarrassing.

I have come to see that there is a lot of hate towards the Americans going way back to my native country. I have also come to learn that the common citizen from any country cannot be put into a group like you are doing. Each country has people who do bad things and good things, yet the governments who run the show are what project a lot of the countries 'look'. If you have a problem with people being in 'your' country then you can always leave. The world is a pretty big place. Three things that cause all arguments, war, acts of crime and violence - greed, hate and ignorance. Seeing quite a lot of the last 2 in this thread and in most of the threads on this forum for that matter.

So Sir, when are you leaving Thailand?

Yes this is true. But we are not as bad as some other Asian countries such as Korea & Japan.

in spirit they are together

disgraceful and shamefull. sadly this is the reality in Thailand

it is annoying to see so many farlangs telling Thai people how to dress.

surprised to see we had this problem in Thailand. Maybe we are being influenced too much by farlangs how to treat our minorities.

Thai Muslims are as much Thai as any Thai and are protected by the King equally as any other Thai citizen

a little bit naughty but what the hell

There are 6000 US sailors in Pattaya. They'll flush the terrorists out of their holes if they can organize their work permits in time.

This is just the sort of action that makes so many people hate Americans. Thais do not wish to get involved in your ugly wars and please do not ask us to get involved.

It is worrying to hear that Bangkok is threatened in this way. What have the Americans done now? For sure they must have done something bad to people to want to hurt to them. But I wish they would not choose Bangkok - the Bangkokians have not done anything to these people for sure.