JoJo

aha i think she loves money her husband ... well i love money too 

Did you love money ? i wont mention someone about this topic I suppose that 3 weeks it cant prove in someone The family inside them i cant know >> she is looking for 3 hands

Huh? What?

Good advice given here so far.

You wanted a woman's perspective??

easy peasy.........GET AS FAR AWAY FROM HER AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN!!!!!!!!

Going back in November? You have oddles where your brains are???

Are you mad or just desperate? (pardon my bluntness)

You are already in doubt, that should trigger warning bells!!!

MALAYSIA VISA REQUIREMENT

1. Nationals of the following countries DO NOT REQUIRE VISA for Social Visit. The duration of stay is 3 Months only. The countries are :

ALBANIA, ALGERIA, ARGENTINA, AUSTRALIA, AUSTRIA, BAHRAIN, BELGIUM, BOSNIA HERZEGOVINA, BRAZIL, CANADA, CROATIA, CUBA, CZECH REPUBLIC, DENMARK, EGYPT, FINLAND, FRANCE, GERMANY, HUNGARY, ICELAND, ITALY, JAPAN, JORDAN, KIRGYSTAN, KUWAIT, KYRGYZ REPUBLIC, LEBANON, LIECHTENSTEIN, LUXEMBOURG, MOROCCO, NETHERLAND, NEW ZEALAND, NORTH YEMEN, NORWAY, OMAN, PERU, POLAND, QATAR, ROMANIA, ST. MARINO, SAUDI ARABIA, SLOVAKIA, SOUTH AFRICA, SOUTH KOREA, SPAIN, SWEDEN, SWITZERLAND, TUNISIA, TURKMENISTAN, TURKEY, U.S.A, U.A.E, UNITED KINGDOM, URUGUAY.

2. Nationals of the following countries DO NOT require a visa to enter Malaysia For Social Visit and the duration of stay is 1 Month only. The countries are :

All ASEAN countries except: MYANMAR, ANTIGUA & BERMUDA, ARMENIA, AZERBAIJAN, BAHAMAS, BARBADOS, BELARUS, BELIZE, BENIN, BHUTAN, BOLIVIA, BOTSWANA, BULGARIA, CAMBODIA, CHILE, COLOMBIA, COSTA RICA, CYPRUS, DOMINICA, ECUADOR, EL SALVADOR, ESTONIA, FIJI, GABON, GAMBIA, GEORGIA, GHANA, GREECE, GRENADA, GUATEMALA, GUYANA, HAITI, HONDURAS, HONG KONG (SAR), IVORY COAST, JAMAICA, KAZAKHSTAN, KENYA, KIRIBATI, LATVIA, LESOTHO, LITHUANIA, MACAU (SAR), MACEDONIA, MALAWI, MALDIVES, MALDOVA, MALTA, MAURITIUS, MEXICO, MOLDAVIA, MONACO, MONGOLIA, NAMIBIA, NAURU, NICARAGUA, NORTH KOREA, PENAMA, PAPUA NEW GUINEA, PARAGUAY, PORTUGAL, RUSSIA, SAO TOME & PRINCIPE, SLOVENIA, SOLOMAN ISLAND, ST. KITTS & NEVIS, ST. LUCIDA, ST. VINCENT, SUDAN, SURINAM, SWAZILAND, TAJIKISTAN, TANZANIA, TOGO, TRINIDAD & TOBAGO, TUVALU, UGANDA, UKRAINE, UPPER VOLTA, UZBEKISTAN, VANUATU, VATICAN CITY, VENEZUELA, WESTERN SAMOA, ZAIRE, ZAMBIA, AND ZIMBABWE.

3. Nationals of the following countries DO NOT require a visa to enter Malaysia For Social Visit and the duration of stay is 14 days only. The countries are :

IRAQ, LIBYA, SYRIA, MACAU (TRAVEL PERMIT), PORTUGAL (ALIEN PASSPORT), PALESTINE, SIERRA LEONE, SOMALI, SOUTH YEMEN.

4. Nationals of the following countries DO NOT require a visa to enter Malaysia For Social Visit and the duration of stay is 15 days only. The country is : IRAN

5. Nationals of the following countries DO NOT require a visa to enter Malaysia For Any Purpose of Visit. The countries are :

All Commonwealth Countries except: INDIA, PAKISTAN, BANGLADESH, SRI LANKA AND NIGERIA.

6. Nationals of the following countries REQUIRE a visa to enter Malaysia For Any Purpose of Visit. The countries are :

Sub Continent Nationals: BANGLADESH, INDIA, PAKISTAN, SRI LANKA.

African Countries: ANGOLA, BURKINA FASO, BURUNDI, CAMEROON, CENTRAL AFRICAN REPUBLIC, CONGO REPUBLIC, CONGO DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC, COTE D'IVOIRE, DJIBOUTI, EQUATORIAL GUINEA, ERITREA, ETHIOPIA, GUINEA-BISSAU, GHANA, LIBERIA, MALI, MOZAMBIQUE, NIGER, NIGERIA, RWANDA, WESTERN SAHARA.

Other Countries: TAIWAN, MYANMAR, NEPAL, BHUTAN, PR CHINA.

All holders Certificate of Identity, All holders of Laisser Passer, All holders of Titre De Voyage, Afghanistan (Visa With Reference)

7. Nationals of the following countries DO NOT require a visa to enter Malaysia For Social Visit & Study. The countriy is :

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (USA)

Ask the management of MK Restaurants

bilko.......just being concerned as many of my friends have been stung.

I do wish you all the best, pls take into consideration Guesthouse's advice. I think it is quite valid.

He wants her to move to germany, but is having none of it.

None of what?? Why does he want his name in the child's bc then?

Word of advice, just lose what you can afford to lose, nothing more.

Congrats about the baby Lop! I am sure you are estatic.

I know you are keen that to get your gf over asap. However, have you thought about the cost of delivery, maternity and monthly checkups in UK? Quite costly.......compared to Thailand.

Perhaps it would be better for her to have it here rather than there.....and you can apply for them to come over right after.

I sincerely doubt the British Embassy will grant or expedite a visa just because she is pregnant. One of my friends was in a similar situation as you and he was told, they would only expedite a visa if there was a valid reason. I am not sure how far off your gf is but my friend's gf was 3 months pregnant at that time so she managed to get the visa only after delivery. I guess it would be a case to case basis.

Good luck!

One question, if she needs your help to get a visa to UK (despite owning 5 plots of land and what have you), how can she show she can support this child of hers when she is there? Unless you are applying a visa for this child too.......

Make sure it is worth your while though......German father getting into the pic is a huge warning sign. Ever question why German dude did not insist on his name in BC before and wants it in now.....obv this father cares about the child but for some reason....... not enough to either marry the mum or bring her over?

Just raising some questions, no offence meant by it.

Good luck

Guys can be nice but you just have to find the right one. Women fighting with women only turns men off.

I thought it makes the women look stupid and creates a huge ego for the man............women fighting over him

HI ladies, sorry I did not make it. Had a emergency appendectomy surgery done.

Glad you girls had fun

JoJo

smad...............i reiterate

You could always tell her you will bring the money to her, not send it over so that she will need to give you an address and a telephone no. Your daughter has issues and if she wants help she has to compromise, not have everything her way!

By doing this you would also have a clear first hand view of what is actually going on.

If at all possible when she calls next time propose to meet her with the cash in Thailand where she lives.

Go with her accross the border pay the overstay fine, make her legal (with a visa from Penang)

Give her some start-up money and go back home.

Be firm and if she really needs your help she will accede to your request. My opinion is that she is 28, she should act more maturely.

Good Luck!

My feelings at the moment are that she is being totally irresponsible - we have no option but to back off and the wait for the s**t to hit the fan - as it will no doubt do.

But to all you posters who are not parents - with all due respect - you cannot comprehend the feelings of total helplessness in this situation. Yes she is old enough to know better but that does not change the worry that you have whether your children or 5, 15, 25 or 50

At the moment we just cannot see how this can have a happy ending for her.

As a mother, I can feel your anguish and frustration. However, she thinks she is in love and she probably will not want your opinions on it.

The man is a waiter which means he is not educated, was irresponsible to leave his job knowing that he would need the money for the wedding/help her settle her visa issues, living with his parents (although most thais do), she has no money, no job and no where to go..............I do agree with you, I do not see a happy ending for her either.

All I can hope is that she does not contract any STD from him......I had a friend's daughter who did something similar and caught Herpes from the Thai guy she was with. She ended up having to go home alone, depressed and with something she has to live with the rest of her life.

Sorry if this makes you more depressed or worried but we have to weigh the pros and cons..............in this case, I do not see any!! I feel for you but I think you would just have to wait and catch her when she falls........hard!

You could always tell her you will bring the money to her, not send it over so that she will need to give you an address and a telephone no. Your daughter has issues and if she wants help she has to compromise, not have everything her way!

threekids, as a woman I do not think that it was right for you to say that just because Patrick is a man, he does not know the meaning of bringing up kids. I think nuturing children should be BOTH parents responsibility.

I still think it would be wiser for you to stay put in Aussie for your daughter to finish her education first. I personally have studied in Aussie and lived there and I think it is a great place to be.

It may seem like a good idea now to move to Phuket but you must remember, LIVING in a country and visiting it on and off for holidays gives you a completely different picture. It would be a huge culture shock to your daughter and moving to another country (non-English speaking) is always stressful. She is 14, a teenager going through a lot of emotions, hormones, mental and physical changes. She really does not need additional worries/stress.

I know it is hard on you as you are unable to work. Doesn't Aussie have single mother allowances, social security or disability payments? I assume you are a single mom as you didn't mention the child's father/your husband in the thread.

Here Today may be successful in educating her/his daughter but not all cases are the same........and not all situations will have the same results. It would be a big risk if you moved all the way here and decided that you had to go back again. I personally would do it after my daughter has finished her education.

I do wish you all the best though.

Good Call........we wish you and your daughter all the luck in the world!

cdnvic............I think Larry is just trying to be realistic.

The woman (whether she is 28 or not) could have been misled. We do not really know the situation at hand.

Parents are worried, she met him while she was holidaying and she has overstayed cos of him...........if he really cares about her, he would have asked her to extend the visa or ask her to go back to settle her visa issues first.

Warning signs to me...........what is so positive about the above?

If story is for real I would be on the next flight to meet intended and if still opposed try to talk (my) sense into daughter. This forum plea may make good soap opera but it is not going to change anything.

Well said...........

I think it is a very "selfish" move to relocate your daughter all the way to Phuket. I am sorry but I just think it is. What is the reason for moving to Phuket now? For a Thai woman? Work? If it is, get your company to pay for her schooling!!!

Moving to another country is hard enough as it is let alone she has to adapt to a whole different culture and make new friends at 14. Teenage years are the hardest to adapt.

International schools are too expensive for you. Thai schools are not easy to enter if she cannot read and write Thai as the medium is Thai.

You should only do it after she has finished school. Sorry, that is what I think

I note that you mentioned "boy".............so they must be pretty young. Seems as if your daughter may be too naive and maybe her "so called bf" has tricked her in thinking that since she has overstayed, the only way out is to marry him. IT WILL NOT WORK THIS WAY.

I would advise against it. Most posters here have indicated their thoughts and that should trigger off warning bells already.

As a parent, I would get her back where you are for a few months and see how it goes. If she still wants to marry this "boy".........then proceed cautiously. Marriage should not be taken so lightly. If she met him while she was on holiday..............is must be a whirlwind romance and will not last long.

My bet is that this "boy" would be playing around while she is gone......... I had a friend who met this Thai guy while she was on holiday here...........she went back to pack her stuff to move here and was gone for a few months. After returning to Bangkok for a few months, she discovered that she caught Herpes from him..................although he sweared he was faithful......

My advise is NOT to do it but that is my opinion. I wish you luck with your daughter

Duck, being Singaporean myself and living in Thailand I would seriously advise you to have your career somewhere else. It would be more fruitful for you long term wise.

I do not know what your personal problems are that she cannot go to Singapore.....probably you have a gf/fiancee or a "wife" already.

My suggestion, either you stay in Sg, sort your problems out and then move her over or go to another neighbouring country instead. (i.e. Malaysia?).

There is no specific salary range for an engineer in Thailand, it all depends on the company, your qualifications and work experience. There is a min for work permit, that is about all.

STOP WHINING, BE A MAN AND KICK HER AND HER ASS PARENTS OUT.

NO GUTS, NO GLORY. I do not see a problem if you can do it.

One of my friends faced a similar situation. It is your house!!!! Do not be naive that you do not want to create a scene, there are always "scenes" when it comes to Thai women

P/S Change the locks once they are out!

Hi, just PM you about an apt. Don't worry I am not an agent.

The British Club is a good place to start. I know someone who has a team and play regularly.........call Chris at 06 091 8821. He is a Brit.

Good luck and have fun

would love to meet the girls too........pls include me when you girls decide

I do not think the guys here are just being realists and looking out for you. Some appreciation would be good.

Sorry I meant, the guys here are being realists.

Why dont you just visit her for about 1 year and then decide. What is the "hurry" of her visiting UK anyway ? Pressure from her?

I do not think the guys here are just being realists and looking out for you. Some appreciation would be good.

Moving over here is easy, finding suitable employment is another, unless you want to be an English teacher. This is not Europe where you will not require a work permit to find employment.

Hi Shola, check this out for expat/local women.

http://www.geocities.com/bnow_th/BNOW.html

So typical of a man to say when he insults it is a question and when the woman asks a question it is an insult!

If you understand English (being an English man) I was generalising, not being personally insulting. I do not stoop SO LOW to ask why your 5th or 6th wife is with you do I?

Or shall I ask the question of why you have been divorced 5-6 times? Oh then again, you would consider it an insult as it came from a woman, bloody typical!

That is not a 'personal attack' it is a meer question?

Needless to say, I have nothing to say to a man who cannot admit he was personally insulting. Post what you like, I am sure you will enjoy it.......thoroughly.