Loiner

You should certainly not expect anything more.

Not even going to bother trying. Is that a problem for you?

No, true.

They are not. They only things they are fleeing are their own women and families. Perhaps the police in their own countries too?

Sorry, not going to pander to your definition of ‘acceptable’. Seen you play that game already.

Quite rightly so. Those poor women and children should be afforded safe haven until they are ready to rejoin their menfolk at home. Those are real refugees. For every woman and child helped, a bogus asylum seeking illegal Arab African or Asian male must be booted out of the UK. They are scrounging fakes.

Doesn’t change my view on how illegal economic scrounges should be treated either. Booted straight out back to a French beach.

We don’t need sky to provide that evidence every day. We have seen it plenty of times in the UK press. It’s quite obviously the French who should be ashamed for not stopping them in the first place. UK Border Force and the bleeding hearts migrants water taxis are doing much more for their safety. Haven’t noticed the Irish dropping down to help either.

Not so. I cited another poster’s repeated citing of our ex-agreement to the Dublin Agreement as a reason why the illegal migrants can’t be returned to France. I noted that we have never returned any and the agreement was just another regulation that France and the EU ignored when it suited them. It meant, and still means, nothing when they won’t accept their responsibilities.

What is nonsense about the question? They were/are French responsibility. How many went back? Could expecting the French to meet their responsibilities and keep them or take them back be the nonsensical part?

They all are better.

“they” are not HM Govt, so their Rejoiner admissions don’t matter, no matter how much you or the Grauniad would like them to.

Does not exclude it either. It clearly says they are not the responsibility of the UK. France can have them back and distribute to rest of the EU, unless they originally landed in France.

Shape and size not matter one iota in this context. Any UK deal is better than an old EU deal. Remainers mantra was that nobody would deal with the UK. Sorry to burst you bubble but UK has been making deals since we were free to do so after Brexit.

Yep. It says the responsibility for them rests with their first arrival in the EU. You can go have a look at it if you really want. Trouble is that it never worked and none were sent back under it. That’s how good it was and how selective they are with their EU rules. To say that we can’t return them to France because we are not party to the Dublin Agreement anymore is wrong.

More like shot himself in the foot. How many illegals were returned to France under the Dublin Agreement?

We don’t need to appease anybody. Antagonising both of them is quite acceptable.

Hmm, who to believe? Bleeding UN hearts or UK High Court? Could this be one of the first times actual justice prevails in this type of matter? Our courts haven’t displayed anything other than virtue signalling recently. Let’s hope the appeal is promptly kicked out too.

Most significant is that they are UK deals with rest in of the world, not EU deals. The bigger and better UK/World deals are in progress now, while the EU is a spent force. Enjoy your bloc while you can.

Kiev is about 2,000 miles away from Belfast. I can’t quite see your connection?

Hostage??? That’s democracy in action.

I am. You…. no idea so far.

Get on with Boris. First the bill and then make as many changes to the NIP as necessary. It's already enraging the EU and Ireland so it must be the best option for the UK. That it will incense the Lib/Lab/Rejoin pact is a fantastic bonus, as is anything that sours EU relations and stymies their plot.

I would not say that about Northern Ireland. Islington and the London Labour Boroughs maybe, as described by The Garuniad and its chattering class readership, but the rest of the mainland is still getting by without adverse effects.

They're all deals between the New UK Freestate and rest of the world. Nobody else regards us as a pariah or untrustworthy international lawbreaker as some posters sneer. Everyone is happy to trade with the UK, except the EU who want to make it too difficult.