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HEY GUYS!!!!!!

Shall we resume talks about the Tiger BOXER 250cc?

The question remains whether this is a bike that it is going to take ove a big chunk of the honda-suzuki-yamaha bikes' market

or not.

The guys at Tiger Motorcycles are not out there only to copy and place in the market resonable bikes.

I know some of them and they are genuinely interested in developing the technology to

improve their bikes and also to finally convince the stubborn average Thai motorcyclists to shift and purchase a

Thai brand.

I myself will purchase one when it comes out in May 2008.

Who will go alongside?

Best to all.

Alter

i'd buy one. I can only imagine the extra 50cc displacement torque on a small and light frame.

I sure hope that the 250 dont have the same high vibration problem that the 200ccs' have.

250cc, stainless steel exhaust system, upside down forks bigger oil cooler.. wowww...I just cant wait. Let just hope its priced lower than the Jap bikes

hey richardbkkk hows your holding up ? A lot of things were messed up on mine because of the vibration. Latest victim is my crankcase copper gasket, oil was leaking from there because the 4 studs that hold the cylinder barrel were shook loose by the vibration.

@cresstt If Tiger is using a Honda clone engine, can you maybe specify which Honda engine they cloned?

boxer is using the famous single cylinder sohc honda engines which is used on the CG(125), XR(185,200) and CRF (150,230) since the 70s with different stroke and bore, hence the displacements varieties. Currently most of these engines are manufactured in CHina by either Lifan or Zongshen. On my Boxer, there are a lot of ZS markings on the innards of the engine. So I believe TIger is using Honda-clones engine manufactured by Zongshen.

A lot of these honda-clone engines are making a comeback and used on dirt bikes. There are some being used on street bikes like the Zongshen GS200. Check out www.chinariders.net, a us based website with chinese dirt bikes majority equipped with these honda-clones.

Try to do a search using the keyword "zongshen" on ebay and you'll see what I'm talking about.

I did a few quick checks with parts manuals I have from Honda and a Tiger Boxer 200cc engine, but I cannot find any parts that would be compatible (other then some screws or bolts). Maybe you can be a bit more specific with what is cloned by Tiger motorcycle for the boxer engine?

its not 100% identical per say, the layout of the engines are the same. The differ in terms of bore and stroke. Majority parts are the same. lets take for example the oil filter under the right hand side of the crank cover (where the clutch plates are).. these oil filters are the same as the ones used on cgs and xrs. Also, timing chains are identical. A lot of the items are. You're not going to find the same HONDA part numbers if your browsing parts fiche for both Hondas and its clones. The crank and head gaskets are definitely not the same as they differ in terms of the bore X stroke. You have to do a visual inspection and compare them side by side in order to know that there are identical. Majority cranks on these engines are identical.

Also remember that Chinese do a incorporate a bit of innovation into their Honda-clone engine design. On some models with the same engine, they built a counter balancer into the engine, these engine will definitely have different parts because of the different components. Even within the Chinese manufactures who share the same engine blueprints, they have slightly different engine casing design and also different innards. The HOnda CRF engines are a different kind of beast. They're they latest much powerfully design of which were built using the XR, CG from the 80s and 90s. Lifan and ZS and a few other are using the blueprints from the same 80s and 90s engine design.

I've two Chinese motorcyles, both with the single cylinder engine honda clones. One is 150cc pushrod counter balanced and the other is the boxer 198cc sohc engine. Both engines looks the same but the innards differ slightly but i bet I can interchange the voltage rectifier, rotor winding, magneto, carbs , ig coil etc etc.

@cresstt If Tiger is using a Honda clone engine, can you maybe specify which Honda engine they cloned?

boxer is using the famous single cylinder sohc honda engines which is used on the CG(125), XR(185,200) and CRF (150,230) since the 70s with different stroke and bore, hence the displacements varieties. Currently most of these engines are manufactured in CHina by either Lifan or Zongshen. On my Boxer, there are a lot of ZS markings on the innards of the engine. So I believe TIger is using Honda-clones engine manufactured by Zongshen.

A lot of these honda-clone engines are making a comeback and used on dirt bikes. There are some being used on street bikes like the Zongshen GS200. Check out www.chinariders.net, a us based website with chinese dirt bikes majority equipped with these honda-clones.

Try to do a search using the keyword "zongshen" on ebay and you'll see what I'm talking about.

I just got this very interesting reply from Khun Piti:

Thank you very much for your interest in our Tiger Boxer 250 RS. This machine will be ready for the market around end of April due to the legal procedures for approval by the government agencies.

I'll update this thread as/when I know more about the test rides.

Phil any news on the bike ? Do you have the bore X stroke information ? From the brochure it looks like Tiger is still using the same Honda clone engine.

I got the 200Se boxer, gotta love the torque on the small frame.

my friend traced the IP using some onlien tools and it points to Bangkok. Still I'm clueless as why some websites defaults me as if I'm coming from taiwan..hmmm

Google seems to think that your IP is from Taiwan. What makes you thinking that you have an IP from bangkok?

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mikee....thanks for you reply, will try as soon as I'm home. I thot I saw the technician keyed-in "ipstar" as the password...you might want to try that

I think I'm on the Sat 1 satellite. From this url http://www.broadbandxchange.org/regional/c...ders/ipstar.pdf

u can clearly sees that the SAT-1 which has a gateway NOC at Taiwan operates customer in Singapore and Malaysia.

That explains why google always defaults to www.google.com.tw

HOw come my IP add is from Bangkok ? Hmm I 'm still clueless of how this IPStar vsat technology works ..

I'm going to complaint about the connection speed I'm getting to the local agent, will keep you all posted.

I was googling for answer of why my new Ipstar setup was slow and found this

"The space industry was sure that 2004 was going to be the year of satellite broadband. Twelve months ago the industry was looking forward to the launch of WildBlue services in the U.S.A., iPSTAR in Asia, and two revolutionary Spaceway spot-beam, Ka-band satellites for HNS. Now, we are at the beginning of 2005, and the iPSTAR satellite is still on the ground, Anik F2 was finally launched in July but WildBlue is anticipating commercial services starting in the second quarter of 2005 at best, and the first two Spaceway satellites are being reconfigured for HDTV broadcasts for DirecTV! "

found it here

http://www.researchandmarkets.com/reportin...eport_id=236026

if ipstar's satelite is still on the ground then what the h_ell am I on ? Am I on some Taiwanese sat ? Every other time If I go to google or any other website that requires registration it will default my originity to Taiwan. My IP address seemed to be of the ones coming from Bangkok.

here's the correct url

http://www.intelsat.com/resources/coverage...174&spot=global

I've no clue what satellite I'm on, all that I know is that it is extremely slow for a 1024/256 package and it's getting worse these few days. I also know that the installer guy had a lot of trouble getting signal and getting the IPX modem to login when he was here last Wednesday 13th Jan 2005.

I cant check the signal since I dont know how to go to the mgmt console of the IPX-5100.

USD300? 

US$30 for 2560/512.

Try to use Download Accelerator .... if downloading large (small) files.

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us$30 for ipstar 2560/512 package ? for real ? I didnot such plan exist, can you direct me to a webpage listing all the different plans/package please...thanks

yeah I'm positive about the download limit, nolimitation set so fat at least not on the contract.

I'll try the that password, but do you have the mgmt URL ?

I ran the test 3am and 5am in the morning and made sure no one else was connected to the internet, still is ###### slow ...is it normal or should I complain ? I'm paying almost usd$300 for montly access fee, how much do you guys pay?

hi all

Just got my place here in Malaysia installed with IPstar KU band broadband. I'm on the 1024/256 package and i think there's no download data size limitation. Overall I'm a bit dissapointed with the speed. I can understand the latency, but the 4 days I've been using it, the average speed I got was only 300 kbps (www.testmy.net). Donwload speed is around 38~48kbps .

Anyway, I was just wondering how do you go to the modem (IPX 5100) management console. When the local IPSTAR provider installed the setup they didn't leave me anytihng except the IPX 5100 which has a live internet connection. I did peep the laptop, and saw they accessing the modem via http://192.168.5.1/blah blah....

so if anyone know how I cud access the mgmt console, please post here. There's also a password right ? Also is there any website or wall garden I can access to see the status of my subscription ?