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2 hours ago, Enoon said:

 

It was forecast many years before the arrival of the WEF and your other demons.

 

It was always going to be.......

 

 

 

 

Just because something was forecast doesn't necessarily mean it will come to pass. Many, if not most people haven't a clue of what is happening, so consider it a wake-up call. 

Sent to SSA at the PO Box address (PO Box 7162) by Fedex in July. Signed for at SSA 5 days later. Cost was B1403.  No hassles. 

55 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Your assumption is wrong.

If you were to ill to travel to immigration and you had somebody do the extension for you it would not change the type of extension you would get as long as they had all the supporting documents for the extension based upon retirement.

You would not get a extension for medical treatment that can be issued for up to 90 days.

I am just telling you what I was told at  the time. 

About 2 years ago at CW, I asked what happens if one is too ill to go in person for an extension of stay based on retirement. I was told by the IO that someone could represent me with some kind of medical document. No specifics were mentioned, but the IO probably meant a Bai Rap Rong Pat ใบรับรองแพทย์ (medical certificate)), but my status would change to something like "Sick", and if, for example, I happened to be grandfathered (in Thailand continuously since before Oct 1998), I would lose that status and if I recovered, I would have to start all over again under current rules  as if I had entered the country for the first time. That would mean I would have to bring in B65K/month or put 800K in the bank, instead of 20K/month or 200K in the bank under the grandfather clause. I did not ask for any more specifics at the time and the above is all I remember. It is also possible that the medical certificate must be a certified copy issued from a government hospital. My only advice would be to ask your local Immigration Office before you get too sick to report in person.  Item 25 on this page has more information:

https://bangkok.immigration.go.th/en/visa-extension/#1610937669254-c6462860-6f05

25. Visa Extension - In the case of receiving medical treatment, attending rehabilitation, or taking care of a patient

In the case of receiving medical treatment, attending rehabilitation, or taking care of a patient:

Criteria for Consideration

Must have been confirmed and requested by a physician of the hospital providing said treatment with full explanation about the illness, period of treatment, and the physician’s opinion that the illness is an impediment to travel.

In the case of taking care of a patient, the applicant must have been confirmed and requested by a physician of the hospital providing the examination and treatment or by an embassy or consulate.

In the case of caretakers who are not the parents, spouse, children, adopted children, or spouse’s children, permission shall be granted for no more than one person.

Documents to be submitted

Application form

Copy of applicant’s passport

Letter of confirmation and request for a temporary stay issued by a physician of the hospital providing said treatment

In the case of taking care of a patient, the applicant must attach a letter of confirmation and request for a temporary stay issued by a physician of the hospital providing said treatment and documents stating relationship (in the case that the caretaker is a member of the family), such as a marriage certificate, a birth certificate, registration of child legitimization, child adoption registration certificate, or confirmation letter from the embassy or consulate.

13 hours ago, pablo el sueco said:

I've banked with USAA for about 7 years.   Every two years or so, they make me answer those questions when I try to login; I think it has happened three times now.  At first I felt like they were being very confrontational, but I got used to it.  After I answer the questions, my login is successful.

Are you sure they are the same type of questions?  USAA has sets of security questions to verify who you are, like names of schools attended, name of 1st pet., etc.. I also get the latter questions once in a while. However the questions cited in this thread are designed to show future intentions, like whether or not you intend to make any future international wire transfers.

Have had USAA accounts for many years, but have never been asked questions like that. Maybe because I only have a couple of credit card accounts that I only use rarely for small amounts to keep them active. 

1 minute ago, nauseus said:

Docs already petitioned. 

Fine, although I will be very surprised if they are successful as every other country also has continuing needs needs for the vaccines. 

2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Disagree. Pharma producers seem happy to have multiple contracts to sell other drugs to large hospital groups through medical supply agencies, which can even arrange special orders for critical drugs. The doctors know that.

No one is disputing that they sell other drugs directly to hospitals.  I am saying that under these circumstances it appears that they are only selling to governments and provided a rational why they might be doing that. as well as why they may have good reason to do so.  If you know any doctors that are trying to get distribution direct to hospitals and are unsuccessful, ask them what responses they are getting.  Perhaps some time in the future if/when things settle down a bit the manufacturers will make direct contracts with medical facilities, but trying to make hundreds of thousands of contracts in a very short time makes no sense when the goal is to get the vaccines out as soon as possible. 

22 minutes ago, nauseus said:

I see what you mean but loads of Thai doctors have been pushing the gov to open up the private route. Many of the big hospitals belong to just a few large groups or organizations that can negotiate, purchase and distribute to their members. Group member hospitals and clinics are situated in most parts of the country and this freedom would be enough to make a big difference in many ways. 

If what I heard is correct, it is the manufacturers that do not want to deal with any entity but governments, because the fewer the number of parties involved, the faster the manufacturers can get on with their primary tasks... making and distributing the vaccines. So the real question may be whether or not the doctors understand that governments do not have much, if any, leverage, and even large hospital groups in one country would have no leverage in forcing the manufacturers to get involved in negotiating and writing hundreds of thousands of contracts (worldwide), which would slow things down distribution even more.  It is also critical that the vaccines be trackable as the more entitles involved the more chances for fraud, waste, and inaccurate data which could lead to bad medical policies and very bad health outcomes. In addition it does take time to make the vaccines, test and distribute them under strict controls, when the number of doses are likely to end up being 30 or 40 billion or more. 

15 hours ago, 2 is 1 said:

All this hassle whit expat's vaccine dilemma is ridiculous! Why Thai goverment just not let private hospitals to buy and sell covid vaccines!? Also they can focus to give "normal" jabs to people who mostly needed, older etc. Ok maybe some dont like it that people who have money to buy can get that easy. 

I have heard that the manufacturers of the vaccines prefer to make contracts with the governments of the approximately 190-247 entities that could be called countries rather than try to make contracts with the approximately 160,000 hospitals (not including clinics, etc) around the world.  In my case, my doctor at the hospital where I have been a patient in the past contacted me and asked if I wanted AZ and he arranged the appointment.  I got dose 1 at the appointed time and place and the appointment for the next dose in 3 months, but I am in the way over 70 category with conditions. 

If you have a medical provider, then report the change to them, otherwise a lot of time may get wasted if/when you need their services. 

"No one is safe until everyone is safe"

Isn't that like saying that no one is vaccinated until everyone is vaccinated * (even if you are double vaccinated)

5 minutes ago, inThailand said:

 

 

WHO has already advised against mixing and matching vaccines. Why? There is no test data on such. They already don't know the long term affects of just one vaccine, since they compressed clinical trials from many years down to months. 

Nature magazine has test data indicating that immune response increases by mixing.  Mix-and-match COVID vaccines trigger potent immune response (nature.com), and other organizations are doing tests.

WHO is also the organization that backed up the CCP when it told the world that the virus could not spread to humans in early 2020, so why should anyone trust them?  

Hmmm does this mean that there should be questions about the data coming from China where they are claiming only 92K cases to date?  (insert facetious, sarcastic icons here) (worldometers.info)  

17 hours ago, Card said:

When did you get the Vax, what documents do you need to take and when is the last date to get one at Bang Sue? I assume it is a walk in facility. I will go as soon as I have your answers. Thx 

I just called 1422 and was told that no vaccine availability at this time for foreigners and to try again in August  and there is an article today in an English language daily that says prebooked jabs only at Bangsue - no walk-ins. Of course that doesn't mean the information is accurate. 

Eventually, starting in the west there will be a dictionary of allowed words...yes three bags full sir. 'No' will have been  deemed insubordinate, and anything else will be cause for re-indoctrination. 

15 hours ago, Surelynot said:

Pound to a penny it is Sinovac.

It is AZ

13 hours ago, metisdead said:

Yesterday I sent an email to Samitivej Sukhumvit Hospital and registered.  At the end of the email exchange, I was advised the AstraZenica vaccine would be available sometime in September.  They will contact me when the vaccine is available. 

Yesterday Samitivej Sukhumvit told me by email that registration is full and to reapply in August.

3 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

The system you describe sounds like an extreme  system where there is only govt healthcare and no private option. Not relevant to most big health care systems including Thailand. 

I think Australia has a reasonable if imperfect system whereby there is free healthcare with certain incentives for those on a middle to higher income to get cover. There are delays sometimes but it works fairly well. 

There is a lot to criticise Thaksin for but his universal healthcare is not one of them in my opinion. Impressive in a country with low rates of taxation. You have money then you can still get private cover. 

I concur with aspects of what you say but I just think healthcare is different. Would you let those who can't afford cover die? Morality and fairness can and should play a role in society. You might say 'who's morality' so as not to have to deal with the issue. It might be worth a percentage or three extra tax to fund a decent healthcare so the working poor, disabled and others can get care. Yes some people who should have saved but ride the system get it too. 

 

As an aside I think government's can do some things well. They privatised trains, power, and other utilities in Australia and it was supposed to lead to huge efficiencies but, in my opinion, it just made certain people get rich and fees go up..e.g. what we call gold plating the power system. 

Govt and private enterprise can each do what they do well. 

"The system you describe sounds like an extreme  system where there is only govt healthcare and no private option."  It could refer to a hybrid system or a government monopoly. I was just pointing out that when government is in control one needs to consider the impacts of government policies on everyone over the long term, not just the target group in the short term.  I understand that many think healthcare is "different" than other goods and services, but isn't it really a collection of services and tools that people have to provide to other people and be compensated for?  

"Would you let those who can't afford cover die?" My answer is try to keep them alive, but we needed to be aware that the costs and time and effort in saving some of them means that others will not get treatment and can pay. It may sound crass, but consider that if a doctor and nurses are treating one patient, they cannot treat another patient at the same time, and if one patient cannot pay due lack of cover, someone else is going to have to foot the bill. 

"They privatised trains, power, and other utilities in Australia and it was supposed to lead to huge efficiencies but, in my opinion, it just made certain people get rich and fees go up"

I do not know much about the Australian privatization, but from what you are saying it sounds like government policies may have had something to do with the problems. I might look into that one of these days.

4 minutes ago, jomtienisgood said:

I agree, I even used to say the only things for free in life are: time and the air I breathe. At this present moment even air is not free anymore, masks, etc,etc......

True.  And when I hear people saying that they should get free healthcare, what they are really saying, intentionally or not, is that they want someone else to pay for their healthcare.  I wish there were a way to get cured of all illnesses in a painless second or two by waving a magic wand,  and maybe some day we will get to something like that, but getting there won't be free. 

25 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

The economics is correct but one can question the morality of not having free health care for all. The fact is some people getting free health care will be lazy people who don't deserve it but many, say in America or Thailand, will be low paid hard workers or people who hit hard times or have mental or physical issues beyond their control. I think taxation to fund a basic level of free health care can be consistent with a capitalist point of view. It can be argued health care is different to other government largesse. 

When anyone gets healthcare that they do not pay for, then someone else is paying for it.  It is not free. If there were any way to provide free healthcare to all, and still pay those who provide everything needed for excellent healthcare enough to keep them in their professions, I'd sure like to know hw it would work.  Morality: How much morality is involved when government runs healthcare and has to ration it because of budget problems?  What is the morality in letting people die waiting for healthcare even if they have  money to pay but  are not allowed to pay for treatment?  How much morality is involved when corruption in government wastes even some of the funds that were supposed to be for healthcare?  How much morality is  involved in letting people die waiting for decades for government approval of life-saving medicines because government officials are afraid to be less than perfect and won't even let dying volunteers try the medicines at their own risk?  

I do not believe that there is anything that can be called government largesse, because the money going to government has to come from some place. No money originates in government, except when government gets the printing presses rolling, and when that happens it causes inflation, which should be called a tax and which harms the poor the most.  

12 minutes ago, jomtienisgood said:

How philosophical......But very correct

Just very basic economics.

26 minutes ago, jomtienisgood said:

I would agree with the " Free ".... Nowhere free .... Everywhere a part of your ' hard-worked for ' salary is deducted. And even then in a lot of cases there is a certain amount that's left at your own cost.... So  " Free " ???????

It is more than that. If healthcare were free, who would pay those providing the care? Healthcare has to be paid for by the individuals, the insurers or the government and it is the individuals who pay the insurance companies and it is the taxes of individuals that the government uses to fund government healthcare programs.  And if government prints more money to fund its healthcare programs, everyone pays more over time because of inflation. For anyone who thinks that there can be truly free healthcare, to paraphrase Milton Friedman, the only free lunch is the one someone else pays for. 

12 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

You're too stupid to debate, or just a troll, so I'll just put you on ignore.

You can't answer a simple question and you are calling someone else stupid?  That's funny.