Dr Robert

excellent thanks for the information gentlemen-confident in your responses and will act on it

great! thanks MJCM and ubonjoe; if I extend my non-O for another 90 days by leaving and re-entering, can I then at the end of that extension go to Immigration and extend another 60 based on the fact that my wife and children are Thai?

I have a 90 day multi-entry visa based on visiting my family here in Thailand

It expires 21st September.

Can someone please advise how I can best extend it for another 90 days without paper work.

Any advice gratefully received

Long story short;

Australian, married to Thai national living in Thailand with our young daughter.

Applied for 12 month multiple tourist visa, got 3 months single (conditions 8101,8201 and 8503).

questions:

Can we apply for spouse visa in Aus during our stay? Or do we have to start again back in Thailand?

What is the normal time (ball park) for approval of spouse visa? What are my chances of getting one?

Can anyonehere please provide the benefit of their (recent) experience going through this process?

Frustrated and concerned about the red tape

thanks everyone

What I did which worked for my wife was I asked for a tourist visa without the 8503 condition because we would be travelling and potentially relocating to the UK and we may need the Visa extended by up to a month while I got my new job sorted while living in Australia.

The Visa was granted, we flew to Australia and applied for a bridging Visa while PR (Partner Migration) was being processed. One year and one month later my wife got PR in Australia. She was also able to get her bridging Visa amended so she could travel to Thailand to take care of a "Sick Aunt".

As other people have said, this option is only going to work if you intend to spend a significant amount of time in Australia.

From memory the visa cost is over $3k- AUD, so its not an undertaking to be treated lightly.

excellent advice-really quite useful thanks Khutan

did you apply for the PR in Aus or Thailand? is it the case that if you dont have an 8503 condition you can apply in Aus?

what was the turn around time for the bridging visa? which city did you apply in (I dont think Adelaide has the facility)

and yes we intend to spend a signifcant amount of time in Aus and the cost is now above $7,000 AUD so its not taken lightly-thanks again for your help

I am in complete sympathy for all the brave souls undertaking this route to visa given how difficult it seems;

I appreciate the hyperlinks provided earlier on the topic thanks mr simple1

My situation- I am Australian, married to a Thai and we have a 6month old child-we would like

to bring our daughter to Aus to be with my extended family in Adelaide and to educate our girl, but of course to regularly come back to Thailand to keep the cultural connection intact.

Here are just some of the so many questions I would like help on

1. Should I have my child made an Aus citizen and get her an Aus passport first? (She has a Thai passport in the pipeline).

2. Should I apply for a 600 visa-ie a vistor/tourist visa for them or should I go straight for the partner visa? We want to be in Aus around October

3. If I go for the partner visa first, can we still get a visa for her to come and live with me in aus albeit for a temporary 12 months?

4.What is the usual waiting time for them to be granted a visa to allow them into Australia?

5. Can I apply for the partner visa from Australia?

6.Is October this year a realistic goal? (I live up country in the NE and access to BKK is limited)

7.What are the benefits of using an agent-or arent there any?

I would be grateful for any informed and experienced advice

thankyou everyone

Getting oz citezenship and passport for your daughter is pretty easy to do in bangkok,done it twice with both daughters, so you should do it.You have to remember that if your wife gets a tourist visa to come to oz she would more than likely have 8503 no further stay attached so she cannot apply for partner visa when she is in Australia.You should probably apply for a partner visa in Thailand and then apply for 12 month multi tourist visa so she she can at least be here for a while.No need for an agent,wife got her partner visa last year and it was all pretty straight forward.With all my dealings with the oz embassy in Bangkok ie: 2 daughters citezenships and passports and partner visa for wife i have found them pleasant to deal with.

that seems like sound common sense advice thankyou

For anyone interested Q22 on the following link explains the circumstances in which you can be potentially approved for a Partner Subclass 100 visa i.e., become a permanent resident of Australia and the provisional visa subclass 309 (the 2 year interim visa) is waived.

http://germany.embassy.gov.au/beln/Partner_FAQ_en.html

ironic that the germany embassy gives the most simple and comprehensive clarity to the questions as opposed to some of the bureacratic stonewalling obfuscation from the Thai Embassy-it seems like an impossible task.

Very appreciative of this excellent bit of information-thankyou

I am in complete sympathy for all the brave souls undertaking this route to visa given how difficult it seems;

I appreciate the hyperlinks provided earlier on the topic thanks mr simple1

My situation- I am Australian, married to a Thai and we have a 6month old child-we would like

to bring our daughter to Aus to be with my extended family in Adelaide and to educate our girl, but of course to regularly come back to Thailand to keep the cultural connection intact.

Here are just some of the so many questions I would like help on

1. Should I have my child made an Aus citizen and get her an Aus passport first? (She has a Thai passport in the pipeline).

2. Should I apply for a 600 visa-ie a vistor/tourist visa for them or should I go straight for the partner visa? We want to be in Aus around October

3. If I go for the partner visa first, can we still get a visa for her to come and live with me in aus albeit for a temporary 12 months?

4.What is the usual waiting time for them to be granted a visa to allow them into Australia?

5. Can I apply for the partner visa from Australia?

6.Is October this year a realistic goal? (I live up country in the NE and access to BKK is limited)

7.What are the benefits of using an agent-or arent there any?

I would be grateful for any informed and experienced advice

thankyou everyone

1. Should I have my child made an Aus citizen and get her an Aus passport first? (She has a Thai passport in the pipeline).

You can apply for baby’s Oz passport anytime, may as well do so now.

1. Should I apply for a 600 visa-ie a vistor/tourist visa for them or should I go straight for the partner visa? We want to be in Aus around October

I believe the average processing time for spouse visa is around 9 – 13 months, so no way would you get a decision within three months. If I was in your position I would apply for a three month tourist visa now and convert, via a bridging visa in Oz at least one month prior to scheduled departure. Note for a tourist visa she would have to provide a satisfactory reason for her to return to Thailand. If the tourist visa application is declined, she would still be able to apply for a spouse visa.

1. If I go for the partner visa first, can we still get a visa for her to come and live with me in aus albeit for a temporary 12 months?

See above.

4.What is the usual waiting time for them to be granted a visa to allow them into Australia?

See above

1. Can I apply for the partner visa from Australia?

See above

1. Is October this year a realistic goal? (I live up country in the NE and access to BKK is limited)

For a partner visa? No

1. What are the benefits of using an agent-or arent there any?

Oz government encourages people to apply without assistance of an agent. However, if you decide to do so, ensure the agent is registered

NB: If wife is granted a tourist visa ensure you obtain the Thai Police clearance before travelling to Oz, as it can be a hassle to obtain from Oz. Bring with you baby’s Thai vaccination documentation. Any Thai language doco such as birth & marriage certificates can be translated in Oz or if you prefer via an agency acceptable to the Oz BKK Embassy. Remember to obtain medical insurance for your wife prior to departure, as initially she will not be covered by Medicare.

Hope the above assists, but with any advice rec’d via the Web, cross check

very useful start and information thankyou-will follow up-the tip on insurance is a goodun

I am in complete sympathy for all the brave souls undertaking this route to visa given how difficult it seems;

I appreciate the hyperlinks provided earlier on the topic thanks mr simple1

My situation- I am Australian, married to a Thai and we have a 6month old child-we would like

to bring our daughter to Aus to be with my extended family in Adelaide and to educate our girl, but of course to regularly come back to Thailand to keep the cultural connection intact.

Here are just some of the so many questions I would like help on

1. Should I have my child made an Aus citizen and get her an Aus passport first? (She has a Thai passport in the pipeline).

2. Should I apply for a 600 visa-ie a vistor/tourist visa for them or should I go straight for the partner visa? We want to be in Aus around October

3. If I go for the partner visa first, can we still get a visa for her to come and live with me in aus albeit for a temporary 12 months?

4.What is the usual waiting time for them to be granted a visa to allow them into Australia?

5. Can I apply for the partner visa from Australia?

6.Is October this year a realistic goal? (I live up country in the NE and access to BKK is limited)

7.What are the benefits of using an agent-or arent there any?

I would be grateful for any informed and experienced advice

thankyou everyone

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You can change the reason for your extension of stay to marriage. You do not need to go out for a visa.

You will need a bank letter showing 400k baht and your bank book showing that it has been in the bank for 2 months or proof 40k baht income.

Marriage certificate and Kor Ror 2.

Wife's house book and ID card.

Map to your residence.

Proof of residence if not living where your wife's house book is for.

Photos of you and your wife in and around the house. One photo must be of you both under or next to the house number.

Copies of your passport photo page. visa, entry/permit to stay stamp, most recent extension stamp and TM6 departure card.

I don't think the order really matters. If they don't like it they will move them around. I do mine, passport copies, financial docs, marriage docs, wife docs, proof of residence, map and then photos.

You put non immigrant ED in the visa space.

Joe, my experience with Immigration in Sakhon Nakhon was different though my circumstances were identical with what was posted by the OP.

I was told to get out of the country, go to Laos and come back on a Non_O which they would then consider for extension based on marriage. They would not change my Ed Visa. There is absolutely no consistency by immigration in dissemination of information across the country I am afraid to report.

May I ask when you did this? The date? I ask because it seems everything is changing because of the ED visa changes on Aug. 29

I will be going to Bangkok imagration in CW

You can change the reason for your extension of stay to marriage. You do not need to go out for a visa.

You will need a bank letter showing 400k baht and your bank book showing that it has been in the bank for 2 months or proof 40k baht income.

Marriage certificate and Kor Ror 2.

Wife's house book and ID card.

Map to your residence.

Proof of residence if not living where your wife's house book is for.

Photos of you and your wife in and around the house. One photo must be of you both under or next to the house number.

Copies of your passport photo page. visa, entry/permit to stay stamp, most recent extension stamp and TM6 departure card.

I don't think the order really matters. If they don't like it they will move them around. I do mine, passport copies, financial docs, marriage docs, wife docs, proof of residence, map and then photos.

You put non immigrant ED in the visa space.

Joe, my experience with Immigration in Sakhon Nakhon was different though my circumstances were identical with what was posted by the OP.

I was told to get out of the country, go to Laos and come back on a Non_O which they would then consider for extension based on marriage. They would not change my Ed Visa. There is absolutely no consistency by immigration in dissemination of information across the country I am afraid to report.

maybe you should try another level

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