filippos

I'm just saying: DON'T COME TO THAILAND FOR SEX! Stop taking advantage of poorer people just because you were lucky enough to be born in a wealthier country, In a few words: GET A LIFE!

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So, are you taking advantage of the old, fat and ugly coz you are young, fit and handsome so as not to have to pay for sex? Do you consider yourself lucky enough to be born like that? Instead of being 4ft and a half with an ugly face where you would have to live in a tent alone for the whole life?

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You're right too. I take my luck for granted too, but I think that even the guy you described can find someone who loves him the way he is. Then again, I really don't know. Maybe I'm too optimistic. Maybe if he gives it a shot first?

Love ppl being rude when they face reality. I'm a male young farung with two masters and I can afford what ever I want, honestly and all. I had my 2 years LD Thai relationship and I was sick seeing all of his friends with these older FARUNGS, and I heard their stories, slept in their rooms, visiting their families,, and I wasn't contributing a cent, we spent as much as we both could afford. Like a normal relationship.

Yeah, what's an LD? Whatever stories you're hearing for one, they're not representative of everyone, and two, you'll more than likely get the feedback that precisely matches your personal viewpoint. People quite naturally always try to find supporting evidence for their ideas so they can then proclaim, "Yes, this is true, and the only truth, mind you!"

You have absolutely no compassion for older men. You're young now but one of these days you'll be old yourself. Will you show the same disdain for yourself then? And again, because you're so naive you assume that all young women prefer men their own age, the main idea for your rationalization being that an older man's body is at best a disgusting state of being.

My, my, how limiting your perception is. There's beauty in everything if you have the eyes to perceive it. Don't argue that it doesn't exist because you won't allow yourself to see it.

And what the h*ll is a "normal" relationship? Normal is an absolute relative term requiring personal definition. And no two definitions will ever be completely alike, not as long as you're dealing with subjective human beings. As you mature a little in life you'll find out that the term is positively misleading. You'll find people wasting their entire lives trying to contour their existence to fit into some box labeled "NORMAL" when that state of being simply doesn't exist. What someone decides to define as a "normal" state of being can never be applied to the whole.

The way U talk and your quote under each of your message shows that you obviously are an ugly middle age forung who can't have a gf without paying for her. You freak out with the idea of prostitution banning because your sex life will have an early death. The truth is that since U depend on prostitution for sex, your sex life is already dead and I'm sorry for that. Sex isn't about performing, is about sharing emotions. That's something U can't pay for... I'm sorry...

Relationships have infinite forms. All depends on what people are seeking. If it takes two to dance you'll find a partner. Don't assume that what you seek as an ideal relationship should be the universal ideal. And if others are choosing differently it's certainly not because they haven't yet learned your values! You seem to completely ignore the concept of individual preferences and individual values. They do exist, you know!

And don't claim to pretend to know the vitality of someone else's sex life. Talking in such a vein you can only be talking out of your arse because you don't know and can't know. It only makes you look stupid. It's impossible to get inside of someone else's head and look through their eyes. You can only live one life at a time; yours. While you think your getting inside of someone else's head your only sticking yours up their arse. And most find that objectionble. Again, your ignorance is blatantly apparent.

And all the rest who're trying to hold on the who started and the percentages of Thai's/Farungs concerning prostitution, obviously are seeking for excuses. The only truth is that you're HELPING their CORRUPTION; not that it's not their fault too, obviously I'd rather sleep in a tent for the rest of my life than prostituting. But still, there are a lot of Thai's who wouldn't be corrupted if it wasn't so easy because of the huge demand for young bodies on sale.

Your truth, pal. It's not the only one. Don't expect others to be able to see through your eyes. Can't be done for the reasons already given.

I like the part about "HELPING their CORRUPTION." Again, totally limited perspective based on so many assumptions that simply aren't true. For one, you have no idea of what a prostitute's personal intentions are and therefore cannot know what she gets out of her experience. For another, you assume it can only be bad.

The mark of your ignorance is the depth of your belief in injustice and tragedy. Might take you your whole lifetime to understand that statement.

Guys... You all deserve a healthy relationship, there's someone for U out there. Don't seek the easy solution, beacause this is just a supplement and U know it...

Rest assured, everybody's finding that 'someone' right now. Their solutions follow their intentions, too.

######, I sound like Jesus!

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Not yet, kid. You're a babe in the woods. You're still sucking your thumb.

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Thanks for the comments man, I do think that you have a lot of valid points. I'm at no position to jugde ppl, since I, and probably no one in this world knows what is right and what's wrong. We all make our choises, and we not all have to agree on those.

You're right that I can't blame foreigners, the root of the problem comes from the souls of all ppl who are able to function as prostitutes. Again, it's their choice. That's democracy and the gvmt shouldn't ban anything.

It's true that my comments are based on my prospective only and the experience I had, and that "normal" doesnt exist in any relationship. Maybe I watch too many movies.

Just to let U know that I did enjoy our exchange of messages eventhough I don't apreciate calling me names. Still, U do have valid points and regardless I will admit that.

You guys of course should do as you feel and the govmt shouldn't add more laws but the opposite.

I for myself just give an alternative options to ppl (as a writer), to follow or not. Again! Freedom of choice!

Yet, I think that sex tourism in Thailand makes the country uglier and I wish the sex tourists would move to a country who has nothing else to offer. Thailand,and I've travelled a lot, is Paradise on Earth.

BTW, there's nothing wrong with sucking my thumb, i found that cute

Have a good day!

Filippos

PS. LD means Long Distance Relationship

PS2. I said his because I'm talking about a gay guy.

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Oh, come on!  You can't possibly believe that foreigners created, or even support the majority of, Thai prostitution!  There are brothels in every village, town, and city in this country...and they sure as heck aren't serving farangs.

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I do actually believe that foreigners playthe bigger part of it. Of course there are locals who look for prostitution as in every country in the world, but trully...

When you walk in BKK or Pataya do U see prostitutes with Thai's or foreigners?

And how much money would a Thai give to his prostitute and how much will a foreigner give? Of course Thailand is a sex- tourism getaway, and of course the foreigners with their western overload of money support it; and most of the times they even go further with fake promises just to get freebies... And this will never change... Unfortunatelly...

What can change is help those young boys and girls to study and offer them better working conditions, and support the agriculture or give them alternative working options.

It's basic economics: the less the demand- the less the production...

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Dumb beyond belief..........

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That's a very intelligent comment U made... Wow! I'm impressed! BTW, I don't want prostitution banning, this is against democracy. I'm just saying: DON'T COME TO THAILAND FOR SEX! Stop taking advantage of poorer people just because you were lucky enough to be born in a wealthier country, In a few words: GET A LIFE!

I can't understand what's the fuss about sex tourists. In the end you don't really know a foreign country until you've shagged the locals and as such sex tourists contribute to a greater cultural awareness among countries.

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You must be kidding!

You really are a &lt;deleted&gt;, try looking off the beaten track and you will see as may girls who work only with Thais, of course if you only look at walking street you will see farrangs, its a tourist street.

You sound more like a Thai girl who has been hurt by a farrang, and promised the world for free sex or a Thai man who can't afford to pay for it rather than a serious poster.

Prostitution was here long before the farrangs started coming.

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Love ppl being rude when they face reality. I'm a male young farung with two masters and I can afford what ever I want, honestly and all. I had my 2 years LD Thai relationship and I was sick seeing all of his friends with these older FARUNGS, and I heard their stories, slept in their rooms, visiting their families,, and I wasn't contributing a cent, we spent as much as we both could afford. Like a normal relationship.

The way U talk and your quote under each of your message shows that you obviously are an ugly middle age forung who can't have a gf without paying for her. You freak out with the idea of prostitution banning because your sex life will have an early death. The truth is that since U depend on prostitution for sex, your sex life is already dead and I'm sorry for that. Sex isn't about performing, is about sharing emotions. That's something U can't pay for... I'm sorry...

And all the rest who're trying to hold on the who started and the percentages of Thai's/Farungs concerning prostitution, obviously are seeking for excuses. The only truth is that you're HELPING their CORRUPTION; not that it's not their fault too, obviously I'd rather sleep in a tent for the rest of my life than prostituting. But still, there are a lot of Thai's who wouldn't be corrupted if it wasn't so easy because of the huge demand for young bodies on sale.

Guys... You all deserve a healthy relationship, there's someone for U out there. Don't seek the easy solution, beacause this is just a supplement and U know it...

######, I sound like Jesus!

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Oh, come on!  You can't possibly believe that foreigners created, or even support the majority of, Thai prostitution!  There are brothels in every village, town, and city in this country...and they sure as heck aren't serving farangs.

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I do actually believe that foreigners playthe bigger part of it. Of course there are locals who look for prostitution as in every country in the world, but trully...

When you walk in BKK or Pataya do U see prostitutes with Thai's or foreigners?

And how much money would a Thai give to his prostitute and how much will a foreigner give? Of course Thailand is a sex- tourism getaway, and of course the foreigners with their western overload of money support it; and most of the times they even go further with fake promises just to get freebies... And this will never change... Unfortunatelly...

What can change is help those young boys and girls to study and offer them better working conditions, and support the agriculture or give them alternative working options.

It's basic economics: the less the demand- the less the production...

I hope Thai officials do read those posts, they will then understand the cause of the problem. My opinion is:

We foreigners created prostitution at the first place by offering Thai's money they could never make that easy by working regurarly jobs. For example a standard price for one night with a Thai is around 1000-1500 Bht; when if the Thai was just working she/he would make around 6000-10000 Bht/month on a six days week, 8to 10 daily. If you do the Maths you will see that that 6 customers equal a full months salary and they can sleep for the rest of the month!

To get out of this:

a) Thai goverment should help Thai's get free college education, including free books! Yes, there are a lot of Thai's who can't afford buying their own books and their farmer parents most likely don't want them educated, they want them on the working on the farm!

We foreigners must STOP being SO CHEAP and not offer them money for sex. We're the ones to be blamed for prostitution, especially the "savors" foreigners who take care of "poor" Thai's, for the "Thai's" good! The biggest lie ever! Them are just the cheapest of all! Can't get laid and use their little money (because if they had more they would stay at their countries), to CORRUPT Thai's. Especially all these DISGUSTING old men who makes me want to puke everytime I go to Pattaya or BKK. How much of a low estime do U guys have? No one can like you with out your money? NO ONE??? Going the easy way and have sexual partners which you know that they feel disgusted by your touch??? How low is that? Do U deserve that???? Don't U deserve someone who would appreciate U as you are? What's wrong with U? Just try it!