LongTimeLurker

15 hours ago, Paradise Pete said:

No we don't. No vaccine ever has had latent side effects. The vaccine itself is cleared from your body within a day or two. The "invaders" it creates are cleared by your immune system in a week or two. After that there's nothing left from it other than a trained and ready immune system.

So why is there still safety monitoring for years after the introduction of a new vaccine?

21 hours ago, cdemundo said:

But like all antivax [deleted] you are always asking smart-a$$ questions instead of actually looking for information.

 

AS usual the thing you are asking for has been discussed repeatedly on TVF. 

1. I am not antivax

2. I don't spend all my time looking at TVF

3 hours ago, cdemundo said:

In any event, doubts about the approval process are totally beside the point at this time as we have real world safety and efficacy data on hundreds of millions of vaccine doses that have been administered.

Do we?

Can you point me to a website where I can see this data?

3 hours ago, cdemundo said:

This is another example of the Big Lie propaganda technique, repeat your lie often and loud and soon people will believe it.

This is repeatedly claimed (the 10 to 15 year figure) but no examples are ever given.

Here's a few examples, maybe you missed them in your research.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/vaccines/timeline

https://www.ncirs.org.au/phases-clinical-trials   "COVID-19 vaccines are being rolled out for emergency use authorisation in several countries. However, as there are limited safety data, full registration of the vaccine will only be given after extended safety monitoring, which will take several years.

https://research.northeastern.edu/heres-what-it-takes-to-test-a-covid-19-vaccine-with-clinical-trials/ " a process that usually takes three to five years of rigorous testing for safety and effectiveness."

https://www.gavi.org/vaccineswork/how-covid-19-leading-innovation-clinical-trials

"On average, vaccine development can take 10-15 years.  "

https://www.jnj.com/innovation/the-5-stages-of-covid-19-vaccine-development-what-you-need-to-know-about-how-a-clinical-trial-works

"It can take up to a decade to go from vaccine discovery and development to approval"

3 hours ago, wordchild said:

Yes this is standard practice amongst international employers in Thailand, however if it’s a Thai company not sure if they will do this.

OP is currently not in Thailand.

"I'm currently working for a global organisation with an office in Thailand ; I've been talking to them about transferring there"

7 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Well it is now....

It's not the 11th yet, if you arrive in UK before 04:00 on 11th you are subject to the existing rules, i.e. you're from a red zone and are unvaccinated.

Mad I know.

5 minutes ago, Why Me said:

Millions have been administered and there's no evidence of consistent adverse events.

Because they don't have sufficient data yet!!!

2 hours ago, johng said:

I don't see pro vax  statements being censored  or pro vax scientist being de-platformed and branded as quacks  even though they may well be proven correct.

Or may well be proven wrong?

14 hours ago, Paradise Pete said:

Yes, of course. After all, only a few billion doses have been safely administered. we need more data! ????????‍♂️

Yes we need more data, where are the short term (5 year) and long term (10 year) statistics on the safety of these few billion doses.

29 minutes ago, GreasyFingers said:

Looks like a couple of the Scandinavian counties agree with him with Moderna being sidelined there.

And Pfizer.

12 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Yeah, yeah, never mind the health concerns and safety risks. 

Cellulitis

Sepsis

Necrotizing Fasciitis

Whitmore Disease

Staphylococcus

Streppcoccus

11 hours ago, LennyW said:

So what about the rest of the UK?

They have their own rules.

https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-international-travel-quarantine/

https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/coronavirus-covid-19-travel-advice

https://gov.wales/rules-international-travel-and-wales-coronavirus

12 hours ago, Mike Teavee said:

Failing that, if I were to return to the UK does anybody know how quickly I could get fully vaccinated there before returning to Thailand? 

There's walk-in clinics, or your GP if you still have one.

Vaccinated at walk-in, second jab according to the waiting period.

Just now, MrJ2U said:

Get vaccinated.

I am, waiting on my booster now.

1 hour ago, MrJ2U said:

Oh please!

 

This isn't new technology.

Get out from under that rock.

 

mRNA technology has been around since the 1960's.

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w

 

 

But has only been used in experimental vaccines given to humans since 2015.

Same article you quote.

4 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w

 

In late 1987, Robert Malone performed a landmark experiment. He mixed strands of messenger RNA with droplets of fat, to create a kind of molecular stew. Human cells bathed in this genetic gumbo absorbed the mRNA, and began producing proteins from it¹.

Realizing that this discovery might have far-reaching potential in medicine, Malone, a graduate student at the Salk Institute for Biological Studies in La Jolla, California, later jotted down some notes, which he signed and dated. If cells could create proteins from mRNA delivered into them, he wrote on 11 January 1988, it might be possible to “treat RNA as a drug”. Another member of the Salk lab signed the notes, too, for posterity. Later that year, Malone’s experiments showed that frog embryos absorbed such mRNA². It was the first time anyone had used fatty droplets to ease mRNA’s passage into a living organism.

And Malone also says that mRNA should not be administered to young adults and children.

5 hours ago, Mavideol said:

are any kids being vaccinated and if yes, where

Pattaya, today.

4 hours ago, jacko45k said:

Apparently untrue.....

Not at the time I posted it, not even now. It changes on October 11th.

By the way, the way it usually works is that you get paid the majority of your salary overseas and get paid local allowances IN Thailand.

I think the minumum requirement for a Farang is Baht 80,000 per month for tax.

So your company will be paying tax on that 80K, and nothing on what goes into your offshore account.

Use that in your negotiations.

18 hours ago, Meat Pie 47 said:

dropping like flies? jut over 700 new cases on the 6th of this month

The videos I saw must have been from those peak months.

18 hours ago, Gjk7777 said:

All the Curry shops would close....Who is going to make my Chicken Tikka?

Any Pakistani can make that, it's your Baltis you should be worried about.

On 10/4/2021 at 1:44 AM, Cherrytreeview said:

Plus the possibility of your insurer not paying up for you being asymptomatic.

If your insurer will pay up the hospital will keep you in, asymptomatic or not.