TruthEyes

Now that thailand has been restored to Democratic governance, there is no way that a crooked constitution, written and imposed by a hi so backed coup-mongering military junta , can be allowed to remain.

What did they call it "coup law"?

It wants ripping up and burning, its an insult to anyone with an ounce od democracy in them

Abisit and Suthep really need to think long and hard now

Are they really going to take the hit for the "invisible hand"?

Fortunately for thailand, and her democracy, two things,

First, the thai people have seen through all the sort of bullshit being peddled,, and given their verdict in the last democratic election, PTP government

Second, due to the heroics of a number of thai freedom fighters, the international community now knows exactly what has been going on in thailand over the years.

Paradine shifts

Arisman will take his place in thai history as the symbolic figurehead of thai freedom fighters and democracy supporters.

He prized the lid from the can of thai iniquity for all the world to see wht was really going on in thailand.

He made the stand and had the guts and wherewithall to say "enough is enought, it stops here"

The thai incumbant terrorists were foolish enough to take him on.

How can you defame anyone who has the principles and lack of respect for democracy, law, and order that abisit does?

After the unfortunate period of military junta dictatorship in thailand, it is very refreshing to see the mechanics of democratic government process in action, however tainted the opposition party.

The elected democratic government will amend the charter in stages, in keeping with the "Constitution Court" ruling.

A well planned strategy that will marginalise the terrorist fringe groups.

No doubt about the intent of this pamilitary group then.

The Government should heed Jattuporns advice, and then declare this Pitak Siam fringe group,the "terrorist organisation" that it is, and disband it, and charge its leaders, and their invisible hand backers..

Thai military junta dictatorial coups are a thing of the past.

The Junta Dictators assault on peaceful demonstrators at Rachaprasong, before the very eyes of the watching , disbelieving, international democratic nations, made sure of that.

However, for the thai generals, International Criminal Court appearances, in The Hague, are a thing of the future.

Its of massive significance that the "Men in Blue" , who perpatrated the outrages on the peacefully protesting redshirts at the Asean Conference, were never rounded up and charged either.

Massive Significance.

Havn't the redshirt freedom fighters already written that title?

Fact is, if the dems were serious about" saving thai democracy" they would have launched such an initiative after the illegal military junta coup, instead of choosing to become the public proxy of the "third (gun)hand" dictator.

Supporters of democracy oppose military coups, not become part of them.

The dems are permanently tarred both nationally, and Internationally as coup-appeasers on the basis of their choices, and the evidence laid out subsequent to the illegal military coup.

Sleepers with the enemy.

But whilst coup proxy abisit gets more and more ridiculous and irrellevant, thai democracy continues to flourish and gains nods of approval from its peers.

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Seems to me that all the polls indicate very decisively that the thai electorate are more than pleased with their choice of a democratic government, and their choice of Prime Miister. ,

Prime Minister Yingluckand her governing skills and attributes are also extremely well admired and commented on, on the International stage.

The lingering stink of the illegal junta proxy abisit has all but been exfoliated.

I never cease to wonder what so many farangs on this board have got to gain perpetuating the body of lies of the Royal Thai Army ?

You can't win when some idiot quotes this can you!!! --- When asking the motorbike boys at the end of our soi who they thought responsible for the damage in our area the following morning, they replied with "Tahan sua daeng". A pro-red market stall seller in the local market cackled with glee at the damage done, saying something to the effect of "this is the power Thaksin can unleash when you cross him!", much to the dismay of other market stall sellers and customers listening to her.

I mean motorbike boys and a cackling market trader - such damning evidence - just as the writers attempts to sparkle us with his mastery of Thai.

Personally I would take the word of people at the site (aka witnesses) waaay before some remotely located and obviously biased sycophant.

Indeed you should.

And it just so happens that Robert Amsterdams dossier contains numerous eyewitness evidence statements of "people at the site".

I'm sure that , like you, the war crimes committee in the Hague , will also take the word of the people at the site (aka witnesses)

Yet further proof of how Mr. "I'm through with politics" is continuing to divide the country.

Thing is , its the existing historical divide of pro and anti-democracy supporters.

And until the dems realise and accept they are allied with the dark forces of thailand, it will remain so

Whichever way you look at it,

Taksin S gave the thai nation democracy, the military junta dictatorship took it from them, but Taksin S gave it back again.

For sure Taksin S will be judged in thai and international history as the "founding-father of thai democracy"

A sort of thai George Washington.

Its that magnitude of a moment in time.

Seriously, what are you on?

In say 50 years time the judgements of historians might surprise quite a few if we were able to look forward

Almost 60 years, but March, 1953 Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili (aka Stalin) passed away.

Slight difference there, what with Taksin S victorious in elections on four occassions now

If they decide to produce the QX there, they will be on a winner

Poor old abisits script writers really are going to have to find some new, original, material relevant to peoples lives.

They make him sound like a muddled puppet proxy dictator,

Wonder what the International criminal court judges will make of him, when they get hold of him.

Well its very clear from the comments that none of the established usual suspects are deemed fit for governance.

So, why not break from this usual tradition and try something different, something radical

Let the Redshirts have a go, on the basis of this thread they could't do any worse

Some interesting but flawed viewpoints being put forward by the anti-democracy supporters.

However these people should take note of the thai peoples verdict on all this, the very same thai people who saw their democratically elected government couped, and military law imposed upon them, then through the military assaults on peaceful protestors, at the asean conference, and bangkok rallies. .

Their verdict was a resounding, overwhelming, historic, landslide election victory for the democratic elements of society

What abisit, the dems, the PAD , etc stand for was completely rejected at the ballot box..

"resounding, overwhelming, historic, landslide"

When was that ? I recall PTP in July-2011 as being 48.4% of the 75%-ish who voted, and most of them were looking for the immediate nation-wide B300/day minimum-wage, which they're still waiting for, or their free laptop, which they're still waiting for, etcetera ?

I believe you are trying to soft-land the total and utter rejection of the undemocratic elements at work in thai politics.

Let me summarise for you " 265 to 159".

Whichever way you look at it,

Taksin S gave the thai nation democracy, the military junta dictatorship took it from them, but Taksin S gave it back again.

For sure Taksin S will be judged in thai and international history as the "founding-father of thai democracy"

A sort of thai George Washington.

Its that magnitude of a moment in time.

I hope that the good General Prayuth and his backers were made to watch that interview over and over again.

The underlying theme being that in a democracy "the will of the voter prevails"

As a democracy supporter I find it impossible to justify how anybody deserves allegations from a Militay Junta Dictatorship.

It is the Military Junta Dictatorship itself that is undeserving, and the democratic society have recognised that

So why havn't the undemocratic elements of thai society, improved their international credibility, and shut Jatuporn up by parading captured "MIB"

The undemocratic dems are looking increasingly pathetic day by day

As Chalerm quite correctly and lawfully stated, all charges against Taksin S stem from the 2006 Military Junta Coup.

And as has been demonstrated on several national and international fronts, democratic thinking minds agree with him.