SiameseCurios

They will all lie,you have the baht.You draw the line.If the lying crosses the line,bye bye

Lying is a gradual thing.

Liers will gradually cross the line you drew.

And the line will move.

That's a really good post.

You forgot to mention that if they lie ......... they will cheat.

And if they cheat .......... they will steal.

My teacher told me, my English is much better then the German of most Brits ! When you not like my topics why you response,when you have nothing to say about the topic itself! You can go to learn German,but I tell you I will not joke about your spelling ! My English teacher told be also, that the Brits much more tolerant when some spelling is wrong, then the German!

Unlucky enough for you I speak German, I lived in German for 12 years and worked translating Books from Telecom suppliers into German guides for staff at big Telecom companies in Frankfurt am Main

Tut mir leid.

Seeing as you are taking this personally, are you going to post the size of your appendage as well?

Very well said. The OP is entitled to his thread. I personally understand everything he has written. His comments are well observed and valid.

We know you only post stuff to big yourself up.

But most posters are more honest and post about their success and their failure.

Nice discussion guys! Interesting

As an objective observant i see Tommo as being too negative and thisBlether as being too positive.

I see one man who's life is full and fulfulling.

I see another man who's consumed with bitterness and self-loathing.

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I see one man who gets on with things and does his own stuff.

I see another man who's obsessed with other men's lives and relationships.

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I see one man who posts on this forum because he has something to say.

I see another man who posts on this forum in order to bolster his weak and fragile ego.

You a folk singer by any chance?

Hit it, Bob.............

I don't know what is all this entrapped stuff. I'd be free to and financially capable of leaving tomorrow.

My line: I've got a life here in LOS some guys back home would kill for and some actually have.

What we've got here is (a) failure to communicate

Captain: You gonna get used to wearing them chains after a while, Luke. Don't you never stop listening to them clinking, 'cause they gonna remind you what I been saying for your own good.

Luke: I wish you'd stop being so good to me, Cap'n.

Captain: Don't you ever talk that way to me. (pause, then hitting him) NEVER! NEVER! (Luke rolls down hill; to other prisoners) What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach. So you get what we had here last week, which is the way he wants it. Well, he gets it. I don't like it any more than you men.

We know you only post stuff to big yourself up.

But most posters are more honest and post about their success and their failure.

Nice discussion guys! Interesting

As an objective observant i see Tommo as being too negative and thisBlether as being too positive.

I see one man who's life is full and fulfulling.

I see another man who's consumed with bitterness and self-loathing.

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I see one man who gets on with things and does his own stuff.

I see another man who's obsessed with other men's lives and relationships.

..............

I see one man who posts on this forum because he has something to say.

I see another man who posts on this forum in order to bolster his weak and fragile ego.

ALL women lie

Some truth in that.

There are lots of Thai women who lie and then lie a bit more and then lie even more and then lie to the point where their entire existence is a lie.

I really pity farangs who talk loudly about their "lovely" Thai GF's/wives.

The "infamous SiameseCurious is back" brigade.

The "rude towards other forum members" brigade.

Why am I infamous? I don't recall stealing any tobacco from your farming thread. Next time, however, I will.

My only question is do you grow that horrible Dutch stuff (DRUM), or do you have the decency to grow quality tobacco like British OLD HOLBORN or GOLDEN VIRGINIA?

The "when did i post this... " brigade..

Is it really you?!

The "I seem to have forgotten my own thread about growing tobacco" brigade.

The "infamous SiameseCurious is back" brigade.

The "rude towards other forum members" brigade.

Why am I infamous? I don't recall stealing any tobacco from your farming thread. Next time, however, I will.

My only question is do you grow that horrible Dutch stuff (DRUM), or do you have the decency to grow quality tobacco like British OLD HOLBORN or GOLDEN VIRGINIA?

''Us ex SAS guys'' brigade.

The "actually, I'm ex-SBS" brigade.

I too am originally from Adelaide and knew about the Thai connection but I thought the women Francis married was a princess from Junk Ceylon(Phuket). Will Wilki it and see.

If you "WIKI" Captain Francis Light, you'll see that his wife was a Siamese Portuguese girl.

But many other sources get it wrong. They describe her as the "beautiful" or "exotic" Princess of Kedah. This is all wrong.

Read the article I referenced in the opening post. It's from the Straits Times, 1949, and it dispels the myths.

This link is also good:

http://andaman.com/p...torymartina.asp

BAD NEWS

When Captain Francis Light died, he bequeathed Suffolk House (Penang) to Martinha Rozells, but she never got it. The British East India Company decided that the mansion was the property of the Crown (ie, the British Government) and could not be given to a Catholic. So they paid her off and gave her a pension.

Well I never!..

Thats quite amazing you were able to find the relation between Colonel Light and Thailand.

Happy to be of help!

If it's of any interest, the surname Rozells still lives on in Penang. And in Singapore, too.

About 1000 Portuguese Eurasians still live in Penang, by the way.

I wrote last time that only two Portuguese Thais made it successfully into Songkhla during the second World War. The correct number is eight.

The girl I live with is related to the woman who married Captain Francis Light -- the man whose son founded your city.

She and I look at Adelaide on Google. It looks like a really beautiful place. You're lucky to live there.

In due course, she and I will go to the Minho province in the north of Portugal. This is where most of the very early Portuguese explorers came from. After that, we plan to go to Adelaide.

Anyway, have a great day tomorrow. It really is extremely interesting to read about your city!

Well done! my good fellow.

Yeah -- Captain Francis Light did some pretty cool stuff.

He founded Penang and had a son who in turn founded Adelaide, but he also helped the (Catholic) Portuguese-Thais to migrate south to Kedah when the Burmese threatened to attack Phuket. And when they got to Kedah, he helped them to relocate to Penang.

He's kind of revered by those in the know He created a truly cosmopolitan community.

Some of what he achieved is gone now, though. The Japs came along in WWII. They hammered the local ethnic minorities. They rounded them up and sent them off to work on the Burmese railway. More than 100,000 of them died.

The Japs considered themselves the Master Race, and they were especially hard on the Portuguese Eurasians.

A few Portuguese descendants escaped from Penang, but not many. They went to the mainland -- Kedah.

But back then, Kedah wasn't Kedah. The Japs had returned the province to Thailand. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syburi

So Kedah was called SYBURI province. It's kind of the lost province of Thailand.

And so the escapees fled north into Songkhla. A few of them made it. But most were either shot or captured and sent to work on the Burmese railway.

I only know of two Portuguese-Thais who survived.

The grave of Captain Francis Light:

1. the man who established the British settlement on Penang

2. the man whose son founded the Australian city of Adelaide

3. the man who married a Portuguese-Thai girl from Phuket called Martinha Rozells

Picking up birds in the Frog and Nightgown?

Sorry -- don't know the pub you're referring to.

But I do remember the George Inn in Borough High Street. It dates back to the seventeenth century and is a gem.

Back in 1991, a barmaid called JADE worked there. She was part Sri Lankan; an art student; very tall; wore cycling shots; and was as hot as you can get.

I could go on .......... but I won't. Some things ought to remain private.

Was Adelaide founded by a Thai?

I’ve been reading this forum today and have noticed that two guys (THEMADPOORFEELOVER and KRISB) come from Adelaide.

So … I thought I’d write a Thailand-related history of Adelaide. I’ll write this off the top of my head as I want to test my memory.

Back in 1511, the Portuguese had a colony in Goa. But they wanted more. They wanted total control of the Malacca straits in order to have uninterrupted access to the shipping lanes out to the Spice Islands, China, Japan and beyond.

So they set out from Goa in 1511 with a fleet of 17 or 18 ships. They headed east to the Sultanate of Malacca, and they completely smashed it. One of the men who took part in this expedition was called Rozells.

In 1641, the Dutch came along and took control of Malacca. The Portuguese were ousted: some of them remained in Malacca; others moved north to Phuket. One man who moved north was called Rozells.

In the 1780s, the British East India Company came along. The Main Man was a guy called Captain Francis Light. He was a good guy. He learned the local languages; he got on well with people who mattered; and by all accounts, he was well-liked and respected.

In due course, Francis Light arranged a deal with the Sultan of Kedah whereby the British would take possession of Penang Island. As a result, Penang became the first colony in what would eventually become British Malaysia.

In addition to hanging out in Penang, Francis Light did a bit of business in Phuket. One day he met a Portuguese Thai called Martinha Rozells. I guess you could say they fell in love. They stuck together for 22 years. And they had kids.

One of their sons was called William Light. When William grew up, he became Colonel William Light. And he was the guy who founded Adelaide.

So .. when talking about Adelaide, you could say:

1. the city was founded by a Brit

2. the city was founded by a Brit whose dad founded the colony on Penang

3. the city was founded by a man whose mum had a Portuguese ancestry that dated back to the 15111 conquest of Malacca

4. the city was founded by a guy who was part Thai

All true! Adelaide is often voted one of the world’s most “liveable” cities. But I wonder how many Thais know that it was founded by a guy who was part Thai.

Further reading

Go to http://newspapers.nl.sg/ and search for "The Mystery of the Light Marriage". The article you need is shown at number two in the search results. It's from the Straits Times, March 31 1949.

I'm a little lost here......

OP what is your actual point?

I think he's pointing out how backward and mind-bogglingly stupid many Thai people, and their society appear to be.

Thought that of course could be down to him and how he processes information.

But it's probably down to Thai people and their society, and not just how they appear.

Does that help at all?

Does that help at all?

It helped me. Thanks

I wonder what these thai visa 'party's' are like

I hate to think ..............

Though I disagree with the OP almost entirely I can say that I empathise a tiny amount. About 3 years ago in our soi, in Bangplad, a young man had not been keeping up on his repayments on his Fino. The loan shark took a dim view and sent a reminder for him. 2 in the morning he and his girlfriend (a girl born and raised in the soi) were pulled from their bed and she was shot dead in front of him. The end result to this was all the new Finos at the top of the soi disappeared the next morning (I assumed they all returned them to the loan shark).

The thing that bugged me (and still does when I see him) is that he was back drinking and chatting with the girl's family within 3 weeks of her death. There was no secret that it was his debt that caused her death yet he seemed forgiven.

This was never going to stop me living in the soi or returning there (now we have left) to see our friends. I just wonder how they can even face him. Not something I could see myself doing if the same happened to my little girl. I can only see my hands around his throat even though I am not a violent man (the last time I landed a punch I was still wearing knee-length shorts!).

The loan shark took a dim view and sent a reminder for him. 2 in the morning he and his girlfriend (a girl born and raised in the soi) were pulled from their bed and she was shot dead in front of him.

Sounds like you lived in a great Soi. Congrats. Thais love farangs with a bit of class.

This was never going to stop me living in the soi or returning there (now we have left) to see our friends.

That's right, bro. Never learn from the past. Keep going back there. But please, don't ever post dumb threads on Thaivisa about the differences between farang winners and losers.

i am missing the standard over and over posted questions/statements such as:

-why a house with more than one bedroom?

-i don't want to be rich! all rich people i know are old, unhappy and sick.

-money is the root of all evil!

-having too much money causes global warming.

-why a big car when a small car will do?

-why a car when a motorcycle will do?

-why a motorcycle when a bicycle will do?

-why a bicycle if one can walk?

what i would really enjoy is the question

"why two young mia nois when the Old Lady will do?"

Please, move on, bro. Seriously, move on.

If you ever feel the need to discuss your bank balance (or wealth or assets) on an anonymous internet forum, then you are going very wrong in life.

Drop it, dude. Move on. You're just making an ass of yourself.

I know many people are going to pooh-pooh this poll, but I've traveled to many countries and I'm not really surprised very much about most of the ratings. Especially the Philippines being so high and Singapore so low in emotion.

True. And good topic, btw.

That map is interesting. Why do you think countries on the west coast of South America (Peru, Ecuador, etc) are more emotional that those of the east coast (Brasil in particular)?

As for the PI coming out tops, I used to date a hi-so girl from Manila. NEVER AGAIN!!!! Five phone calls per day: crying; sulking; endless proclamations of love. She almost drove me crazy. I ended up hating her.

Singapore women are the worst...Never try that on.....I ended up hating her.

Cool story, bro.

Although it's not revealed in the color coded map, the poll also got into the question of different kinds of emotion, at least basically, positive vs. negative. As people we are not robots so emotions are part of our makeup. For example, Panama rates very high in POSITIVE emotion while Bahrain rates very high in NEGATIVE emotion.

Good point. I wondered about that.

There's a huge difference between an overly emotional, ecstatic Brazilian and an overly emotional, NASTY Moroccan.

I've seen both. And I know which I prefer.

I am thankfully a decent cook.....

So, how's your masaman? Is it BKK-style with "man farang", or southern-style with "khai thom"?

Are you sure you know how to choose shallots rather than onions?

Do you know the difference between those big GARLICS (which I think are Chinese) and those small GARLICS (which are much more garlicky)?

My curries are more West Indian than Thai as that is how I first learnt to cook them. I can at least cook the potatoes properly.

Never used shallots.

Yeah the small garlic is more flavoursome.

Carry on....!

My curries are more West Indian than Thai

Interesting. I used to live in London (England) near London Bridge. The area was called The Borough (you won't know it, but others might), and nearby was a place called Deptford where West Indians (Jamaicans, etc) sold curries out the street.

But I never got to try any of that stuff. My bad. My stupidity. My ignorance. I do remember the smells, though. Awesome!!

As for people ripping you off, it's not the language you need to know, it's the price of everything you need to know.

Spot on. Learning Thai is not the same as learning the local price structure.

As some people have a natural talent for using numbers, fixing machines or working with animals, my wife is a natural born cook. Not only does every person I know (Thai and foreign) go on about it, at 2 different 5 star hotels where I have worked her food (both Thai and western) was among that served at some staff parties. Chefs were loving it (as was everyone) and trying to find out which chef had cooked it.Virtually everyone in each community we have lived in over the last 20 years (a lot of them) was always crazy for her stuff -- even the popular neighborhood cooks and restaurateurs.

The funny thing is not only did I never even consider looking for such a quality in a spouse but I was unaware of it until after we had been involved for months and moved in together. Even more ironic: while I like my favorites as much or more than the next man, I am a notoriously unadventurous eater who is very happy to eat little more than half a dozen things over and over (I'm actually rather embarrassed about that but ...)

Poor girl gave up trying new stuff with me but my friends and neighbors take up the slack.

You've done well for yourself. Bon appetite.

I am a notoriously unadventurous eater

Time to break the mould! Be a devil! Go for it!