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10 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

15 days is enough but this all depends on them accepting the 800k in your bank.

Also think cutting it too fine.

The covid extension is only 1900 baht and would give you time to sort things out.

Which immigration office?

Some require more than 15 days for non O application. 

Think CM is 21

ok it all makes sense.. im in Pattaya. but yea, 1900 and 2 months, would buy some time..

2 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

You will be able to obtain 60 day covid extension and you would need that even if money wasn't the issue.

So apply for the CE and ask about the banking situation.

 

ok, is that because im getting to close? I mean, if I do this mon/tue in next week, there will still be 15-16days left, or that's not enough.. sorry for being slow understanding.. trying hard ???? and thanks again.

16 minutes ago, The Hammer2021 said:

Use an agent!

I tried, at least for hel[ing me obtaining the non o and all the paper work, but was told they don't have this service.. only the "full" package which is kind of the opposite of the whole idea of putting 800k in the bank and trying to do things the right way. but if you know any agents that can do this as a separate service, not the full package, but just the non o, then I could try that company

10 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Earlier you mentioned you are on visa exemption.

You would be required to obtain the standard 30 day extension prior to covid extension.

Currently CE due to end Aug 25. 

Keep in mind to apply for your non O you require 15+ days on your current permission of stay.

 

ok thank you.. im already on the the second/last 30d extension which are to expire 3th or 4th in next month. so that won't be possible for me.

but if I go emigration next week, I could possibly get a CE if they won't give me an non-o, it will still be beefore 25th and close to the end of my current/last 30d extension.. 

traveling abroad is the very last possible option, as my health are not very good since a long hospital stay in bkk.. I could do it if absolutely have to, but really would like to void that at any cost almost.

1 minute ago, DrJack54 said:

Don't beat yourself up.

Your fall back plan b is to obtain a non O retirement at consulate outside of Thailand eg Vientiane, Saigon etc.

The proof funds came from abroad not required.

Alternatively talk with your immigration office. 

 

ok, also I just found receipts from withdrawal from foreign bank and large sum money exchange from a big exchange company abroad and other document showing I transferred large sums out of that account. so if they are worried that the money is given to me from someone here in Thailand, I can actually show pretty sizable transfers in the time up to my arrival.. maybe all this can help as well. it all depends what they are trying to archieve, but I guess that the goal is that people are not borrowing money from inside Thailand to put in the bank.

I will just go ahead and hope for the best, also, covid extensions should still be avail right? so worst case, I can extend covid 60d.. or alternatively use an agent, which might be as cheap as going to Vientiane or Saigon in worst worst case

3 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

So how were the funds transfered.

the 200k ish was transferred from abroad, the 100k was just part of my regular transfer abroad.

the 500k Ish I brought into Thailand in cash. was from a withdrawal abroad, I might be able to find the receipt but they made a mistake on one of these due to carbon paper and its unreadable. the account abroad I don't have access to since I closed it and withdraw the money and sent remaining funds back to my home country

edit: bankbook is old, as I have been here many years on various visas and exemption and have many transfers from abroad. just this 500k is in cash. this is my first retirement extension, wasn't aware of these things (my fault, should have done better research)

10 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

How long has the money been in the bank. 

about 2 weeks, deposited them after my last entry and I have a deposit slip in my name if that makes any difference

Im trying to get an retirement extension. I am on a visa exempt now, and money is in the bank. on the emigration website I now read this

5.1 Present passbook and deposit certificate from banks in Thailand (in Thai language (Attention: Immigration Commissioner))

5.3 Evidence of foreign currency fund transferred toThailand

I don't have this.. about 500k was deposited in cash, the rest was sent from abroad. the money I brought into Thailand in Cash

What is deposit certificate? I mean, there is an entry in the bankbook? that's not enough?

And how do I proof my cash deposit come from abroad? that's going to be almost impossible

I am in Chonburi/pattaya if that makes any difference

Any advice would be appreciated :)

This seems to be a importent point.. maybe i will just go get a 30d extension and then apply for the non O and wait until money been in bank for 2 months and then apply for the 1y extension

that is if i understood everything above correctly ????

Hi. trying to work towards getting my first retirement visa. 

- money in thank since a few days ago. so still not 60 days

- current entry is visa excemp, entry jul 5, expire aug 4

not sure what i need to do next? do i need to exit/entry to get a tourist visa instead and from that i can apply for a retirement extension? Also, since money not been in bank 2 month yet, in case i need to leave, i could get one 30 days extension now and then cambodia border run?

Really confused about what to do next. asked an agent, who just told me to buy the "full" package they normally offer, at full price, which kind of is not the purpose (using my 800k and do it "the right way") but im so confused about what i need to do

thanks in advance

Vento

both accounts does not exists, as im closing one and want to put the funds into an account that yet has not been opened and as such, i cant do regular transfer.

Was planning to open a USD account in thailand.. closing an account abroad and can get a manager check.. its a bit more than the normal limit for cash when traveling around.. So is that even legal to carry, or should it be considered cash and declared. also, will banks accept those for currency accounts? anyone have any experience with this, or other ways of bringing some funds to thailand when i return.

im abroad now and cant transfer the funds to thailand due to the account is not yet opened in thailand... not sure what to do.. any advices?

4 hours ago, Antiparovian said:

Why use an agent? Why not do it legally?

the legality of this might be of concerns for the system. i think that discussion belongs elsewhere ????

1 hour ago, DrJack54 said:

Permit ends March 24.

Perfect timing.

Obtain another covid extension couple of weeks prior to March 24.

That will give you POS till approx May 24.

 

so my takeaway from this is

1: yes, properly easier to re-enter thailand with a retirement extension or something like that

but not really necessary, can still come back on visa excempt

2: i can still get yet another covid extension, its been extended again

it all makes sense now i think.. I'm properly going to go this route

Thanks a lot..

5 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

So when does your current permit end? 

just double checked.. march 25 for my current covid extension

7 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

So when does your current permission of stay end?

If possible another covid extension then just exit and reenter visa exempt.

Attend to the non O and extension after you return. 

 

 

current covid extension ends march 24, and im confused about if its even possible to extend further or not also.. but if still possible, you might be right, maybe just easier to fix retirement when back.. 

1 minute ago, richard_smith237 said:

As DrJack wrote - what Visa are you on now and how long are you planning to stay for upon your return ? - the absence of that informant makes any reply inaccurate. 

 

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With regards to what is easier - Exempt entry of course (unless you have a lot of exempt entries in a row).

 

IF you are holding a Non-Imm O - its simple enough to apply for a re-entry permit at the airport upon departure. 

 

iF you are not currently on a Non-Imm O and wish to apply for that before leaving, then there is some legwork depending on your situation. 

Yes, sorry for this, its a bit confusing for me.

I have a visa exempt.  would get a agent to help me with non-o + retirement extension. As i understand, i would be on non-o for 3 months and then it would change to a retirement extension (again, really sorry if this is wrong, but this is how i understood it)

I would have agent help me with all the legwork etc to get non-o and the retirement extension.

But im worried that any of these scenarios would cause me issues when returning.. especially if i leave and return while on the non-o

i would mostly convert to retirement extension now if it could make my return/paperwork easier/possible without hazzle. i have a lot of visa exempt back to back but latest one is from 2019, since that i have been in medial care and then covid extensions.

thanks again

Hi. im about to leave Thailand soon for a month or two.

What is less hazzle when entering Thailand now.. non-o/retirement extension (with re entry permit) or visa excempt

or is it same?

edit: also, where is the real resource/correct place to find current regulations for entering? i see a lot of outdated stuff around various places (not here just in general) what is the official place or is it different from the departure country?

thanks in advance

7 hours ago, steve187 said:

how do you have a blue book if the car is unregistered in the old province, and not reregistered in a new one.

normally to reregister a vehicle in a new provenience, is a case of taking the vehicle to the new office and them doing all the paperwork, getting new plates taking possession of the old plates, compulsory insurance, checking the vehicles chassis number etc. etc. sometimes a new book is given or in some cases the old book has the number changed to the new one

Im not sure also.. its all a bit confusing to me, dealing with financing that did not speak english or insurance office that not speak english (i not fault them, im in Thailand, i should be better at Thai, not the other way around). but insurance company called DLT which confirmed its been cancelled in old province and i needed to get new plates.

but for the sound of your and other replies, it doesn't sound like its unusual or very risky to let the insurance company deal with this at my behalf.

thanks for your answers

ok, maybe a stupid question and this would be a absolutely disaster to do in my homecountry, but perhaps its different here

I need to change/re-register my car for a new province and get new plates. car already been unregistered in old province, the car finance did that when i paid out the load (dont ask why, something about i paid the full amount in another province than the original papers where signed)  I dont have the energy and/or understand what i actually have to do, not only i need new insurance, road tax, properly car inspected and tons of other stuff i have no idea about.

insurance company offered me to do it, they need the car/blue book/copy passport and a couple of passport photos, tells me it will be done same day.

its a official office (not an agent) of one of the bigger companies (properly the biggest car insurance)

But, my gut feeling tells me this is unsafe (it would be back home).. will they with these papers etc. be able to re-register/change ownership on the car even though im not there, or is this normal practice around here, if someone is not able to do these things and have other people do it on their behalf?

please advice if you have any actual knowledge about this (not just gut feelings, because i do have those already, hence this post) ????

thanks in advance.

8 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

You can return with visa exempt entry.

You can then obtain a Non O retirement in Thailand.

You then obtain an extension.

The only insurance you would require is 50k covid insurance for 30 day cover.

You would not require insurance for the non O or the extension.

Do not obtain a Non O-A in your home country. That requires ongoing rubbish insurance. 

The non O and subsequent extension have financial requirements.

Do you have a Thai bank account. That's your first requirement to obtain. 

Thank you so very very much.. this is easy to understand and exactly what i was looking for..  Much appreciated.

6 minutes ago, JackGats said:

What I got from Cigna was a statement that treatment (whatever kind) was refunded up to 30k euros. I don't see them signing any form.

 

I hate this insurance issue with Thailand as I don't feel I am at all underinsured under my Cigna worldwide coverage.

yes, and thats my worry as well.. as far as i could tell cigna thailand was a part of this "scheme" but doubt they will sign anything if our policies are with the cigna global/int.. its all both confusing and frustrating

6 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

Are your extentions from a Non O-A or Non O.

Oh, i plan to get a retirement visa, but currently im on visa exempt since many years and extensions due to medical reasons and then covid extensions.

I plan to leave thailand and come back in a few months and get a retirement 50+ extension.. sorry if my information was confusion, its all very confusing to me. not sure how to answer this correct, because i still dont even understand how to get the retirement extension

Hi. im planning to leave Thailand soon and hopefully return in a few months time.. 

I have Cigna international, but no outpatient.. I'm trying to figure out what they need and how to proceed, and/or if i need to change my policy to include outpatient as well.

At this link: https://longstay.tgia.org/guidelineoa it states that a non o needs 100k usd coverage and 400k inpatient/40k outpatient at renewal.. and also the form they link to, only ask for the insured total sum and not in/out patient amounts.

what is the truth here? what do i do?

p.s. Did anyone with Cigna international have any luck of getting them to sign those forms (i didnt try, but feel this might be an issue as well)

added info: im 51, plan to return and get a retirement visa, still trying to figure out of the process for that, but thats the plan

thanks for any info.. im very confused ????

yea, just that i cant get any more letters from hospital to support medical extension.... ouch... ok.. will sit tight and hope (like a lot of others)