JRingo

One old bargirl had permission to go out with my wife to the casino every weekend.

She wore dowdy old housewife clothes as she kissed her husband good bye and then went around the side of the house where she had tossed out the window a bag full of her other clothes, miniskirt, support bra, etc…

They would then hook-up with their other broken down bargirl buddies who were doing the same thing and go bar hopping, weed smoking and boy chasing while their faithful husbands watched the kids.

There are a bunch of broken down old bargirls here in the States who are married to falangs.

We were talking one day about them lying to their husbands so I asked them

why that was necessary.

One of them replied that if they told them the truth, they would get mad, so they had to lie.

They all agreed with this concept.

My last Thai wife had a bargirl friend who married a fat falang.

The fat falang made her cook him food all the time.

When he wasn’t watching, she would spit into the food, mix it up and give it to him.

BTW, I think they are awful.

I see, and that explains why you have a heap on your computer?

That song seems easy to find on the net:

http://www.ethaicd.com/show.php?pid=23310

Does anyone have a CD from Bazoo called Hole Hole? You can't buy it anymore in Thailand, I can't find it on the net, but I'm sure there are some people out there who do have this CD and might want to share it with me....

Thanks a million!

That song HO-LE HO-LE is on the Bazoo 2 CD called Revolution.

Coffee

Did you know that the “Brazilian” coffee sold in coffee shops in Thailand

is grown in Thailand?

Apparently, there is a very high import duty on coffee, so most everyone sells

the local bean.

They just call it whatever the falang wants to hear.

...or so I'm told.

Making merit

It is such a quaint little Thai thing to buy and release those little birds sold on the streets.

I think the idea is that by freeing a captured animal you are doing a good deed.

A Thai told me the birds are trained to fly back home after the release where they are

collected and re-sold day after day.

I guess it’s the thought that counts.

It seems that the nearest faultlines are way up in the mountains. What kind of effect does the "bodyweight" of that huge amount of rockmaterial have on the consequences of a faultline shift - (or whatever those earthquake producing events are called)? In my ignorance I'd suspect a dampening effect - right/wrong?

Glad to see the Chiang Mai Basin has a huge drain downstreams. Wouldn't want to see that basin filled to the brim.

It's interesting that the quake that caused the tsunami also caused the earths axis to wobble as

a result of the faultline shifting.

http://www.777news.com/sumatra_quake_rattl...arth_orbit.html

Heat wave back again?

Or recovering from Legionaires from your air conditioning.

Moss

Yes, hot again.

I was chatting with a former Thai tourguide.

He worked for a company that arranged package tours for busloads of falangs.

He compared the groups to flocks of sheep and he was the Shepard herding them around.

They kept the bus really cold on purpose. They would stop often so the tourists could do

some shopping and he thought that going from a really cold bus to really hot streets a bunch of times a day would make a certain percentage of them sick, which was a good thing as it would keep them in their rooms at night and not bother him.

It would also tire them all out, which was also good as he didn’t want them to go off shopping on their own and cheating him out of his due commission.

He was really proud of the nighttime culture shows he created. He would hire a few local Akha people that were hanging around to make some noise and dance around a campfire on the beach in Tat Thon. He even brought the instruments; little drums and cymbals.

The entire nights entertainment for 50 people only cost him 200 baht and “falangs liked this sort of thing” he said.

That was nice of you to apologize, thank you.

Sorry to keep correcting you but you are wrong again.

I am not interested in pushing the burden to someone else or sharing the burden.

I decided a few years ago that I wasn't going to do anything about this.

It is not a burden at all for me.

I offered the story as a real life example of "intervention" which is what this thread is about.

The monk chose not to intervene.

I chose not to intervene.

You chose not to intervene.

So there you have it.

Hi JRingo- You're correct, I was wrong and for that I apologize. I had you mixed up with causticme. I wouldn't say that I keep accusing you, that was the only time if I'm not mistaken again.

I stick to my guns as far as my opinions about the monk and that situation. It is something that you're familiar with, and someone you're supposed to be familiar with. I have a hard time believing it. In any case you're more interested in either pushing the burden to someone else, or sharing it. Neither of us are in a position to change things, it's a waste of time to continue to debate the morality of a story.

You are mistaken again Soic, it wasn’t me that said I wanted a woman soley for pleasure or the other quote about no women being equal.

Someone else must have made those statements because it wasn't me.

I know sometimes it is difficult to figure who said what with this type of forum software

but look again and you will see that you are mistaken.

You keep falsely accusing me and I think it is really quite rude.

"Life is Easy. Why do we make it so hard?"

Published: 8/29/2005

“Life is easy. Why do we make it so hard?”

Why do humans choose to live their life in a difficult and complicated life like this? What do we receive from our hard work all our life? Why is the simple and peaceful way not attractive to people? Life is easy, why do we make it hard?

I lived the simple life for a short while in northern Thailand.

I think it was the happiest time of my life.

It is a virtual garden of Eden up there with food for the taking in the forests.

Nobody really worked, just sort of enjoyed life.

But without money, I had no healthcare.

And with no healthcare you die young.

And I don’t want to die young, so I left and went to work.

There is a nice map at the bottom that shows the known fault lines around Chiang mai.

http://geology.fullerton.edu/Faculty/brhod...%20Hi%20Res.pdf

Soic wrote:

" You made a couple of statements in a couple of your other threads that cause me concern. Wanting a woman soley for pleasure and not understanding that women could possibly have wants the same as you. Then your extremely foolish statement of superiority over women, that "NO Women were Equal to YOU!" It causes me to doubt your honesty and sincerity about anything."

You are mistaken again Soic, it wasn’t me that said I wanted a woman soley for pleasure or the other quote about no women being equal.

Someone else must have made those statements because it wasn't me.

I know sometimes it is difficult to figure who said what with this type of forum software

but look again and you will see that you are mistaken.

You keep falsely accusing me and I think it is really quite rude.

So once again you show that you and I are both in the same situation.

I am not in Thailand either, so how is it “my problem” and not yours?

You want to assign this problem to me and then lay guilt on me if I don't rectify it.

This sounds like the "Christian guilt technique" for dealing with the world...but that is a topic for another day.

I'm sorry to say you're just a bit off the mark. I'm not hiding behind anything... I am in Iraq, I don't have the luxury of just hopping on a plane and popping over to Thailand and fixing your problem. I can assure that if I were there and in the area, I would gladly do what I could to take care of that. I can honestly say that everyone that knows me personally would be surprised if I didn't. I'm notorious here and everywhere I go for always trying to do the right thing, or help someone even at great danger or discomfort to myself. Find your own bunker... I don't need one.

Sorry for the language confusion.

I told a story, it is a true story. You say this is the “real issue here”.

If you don’t believe me, go see for yourself.

The place is close to me when I am in Thailand, which I am not now.

Your arguments are interesting but if you are in Thailand they apply more to yourself

than to me.

You are in a better position to do something about this than I am.

So, why don’t you heed your own advice?

Seems like you are the one "hiding behind excuses".

If I was asked why do monks apear to take more interest in soi dogs and other erant animals and don't look after orphaned children I wouldn't be able to give them an answer !

I did ask earlyer if there are any childrens homes run by monks ? dose anyone know?

Yes, sure in Mae Rim.

It is a big orphanage, funded by the government and run by monks.

Sorry for the language confusion.

I told a story, it is a true story. You say this is the “real issue here”.

If you don’t believe me, go see for yourself.

The place is close to me when I am in Thailand, which I am not now.

Your arguments are interesting but if you are in Thailand they apply more to yourself

than to me.

You are in a better position to do something about this than I am.

So, why don’t you heed your own advice?

Seems like you are the one "hiding behind excuses".

Edit: I am not asking you to do anything.

You seem to be trying to lay a guilt trip on me.

If you think that is appropriate, then try it on yourself, maybe you will learn something.

So I'm guessing that this monk on the hill may or may not exist? I mean that appears to be the real issue here, "you told a story". You posed this as the truth, not a story, and you said it was close to you... Hypotheticals are easily argued and debated, they're merely what actions we "HOPE" we would take, none that we are ever put in the position to have to take. It's easy for everyone to take the moral high ground there... we're all guilty of thinking that we're better persons than we truly are. "Of course we'd all do the right thing!", we're all wonderful people. The real question is, if there were blood and bone at stake.... Would we really?

If you had taken the time to read... I said ask. You pose a moral dilemma then hide behind excuses. You are there, near the situation. You would expect people to trek across Thailand or halfway around the world to fix something that's in your own back yard. It's all about taking personal responsibility. The fact that anyone else knows what the problem is, you are there, you know what the problem is, and you do nothing.

You are making wrong assumptions.

I would not expect people to trek across Thailand.

I would not expect anyone to do anything.

I just told you a story and left it at that.

Actually, I am not there, I am in USA.

So, if you are in Thailand, why don’t YOU take personal responsibility?

Don’t get me wrong, I am not aski ng you to, just posing the question.

If you had taken the time to read... I said ask. You pose a moral dilemma then hide behind excuses. You are there, near the situation. You would expect people to trek across Thailand or halfway around the world to fix something that's in your own back yard. It's all about taking personal responsibility. The fact that anyone else knows what the problem is, you are there, you know what the problem is, and you do nothing.

You are making wrong assumptions.

I would not expect people to trek across Thailand.

I would not expect anyone to do anything.

I just told you a story and left it at that.

Actually, I am not there, I am in USA.

So, if you are in Thailand, why don’t YOU take personal responsibility?

Don’t get me wrong, I am not asking you to, just posing the question.

Thread: Good Bye

JRingo Posted on: 2006-07-30 18:09:30

Good bye.

What? No "Hello, I'm back" thread???

how disappointing...

So what you thought I said goodbye forever?

So what you want me to ask your permission to post again?

Ok, sir John, permission to come aboard sir!

Well, to preserve the sanctity of this ship and prevent a probable mutiny amongst its crew if you come onboard, I really have no other option but to say:

Permission Denied

Well that's what I get for asking. haha

Thanks for the warm welcome back, I'm sure more of my fan club will follow.

Hi

I have a container arriving in BKK with household goods. Does anyone

know a freight company who can handle the customs clearance and

transportation to the south of Thailand.

Thank's in advance

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They get it done.

Thread: Good Bye

JRingo Posted on: 2006-07-30 18:09:30

Good bye.

What? No "Hello, I'm back" thread???

how disappointing...

So what you thought I said goodbye forever?

So what you want me to ask your permission to post again?

Ok, sir John, permission to come aboard sir!

> From sex tourism to AIDS to earthquakes, what's next JRingo?

My money is on Bird Flu being next.

Nah.....More like rampant terrorism on Thai Airways prior to the new airport opening. He likes controversy

How are earthquakes controversial?

People have developed different opinions from the information they have received

from different places.

I happen to be in construction and know a little bit about this subject.

There is no controversy here, just different opinions, you have yours, I have mine.

Isn’t that the idea behind this forum?

I wish you guys would add something useful or interesting to the topic.

I believe that you have made the problem your own. You know the monk, you know what's going on, you are at least minimally on friendly terms with the monk. You also said that he confided the message to you. I would say that it would be up to YOU to ASK that monk if YOU can place a sign near those pipes. You have seen the percieved danger, and if YOU do nothing, it would be YOU that would be guilty of the "sin". By telling everyone here, you think that you made us complicit, the fact is, you've made us bear witness to a grave misdeed. YOU as a compassionate individual should excersize your free will and resolve the situation.

I was asked not too long ago how I felt about Accountability Drills in our Camp. The Employee Relations officer thought that I would side with him against my boss, as is the popular thing with many of my colleagues. I surprised him by totally agreeing with my boss and going one step further. He became irate and said that none of the other camps were doing anything like that, "How could I feel justified in wanting to do it anyway?" My answer... " I would rather be in trouble for doing something right, than to be lauded for doing something wrong!" Just because some others don't feel compelled to do the right thing, won't stop me from doing what I feel is right. I have to live with MY OWN conscience. I don't have to live with yours, or you with mine.

You have to do what YOU KNOW to be the right thing...

I should also add that the locals are quite touchy about water and water rights

and some protestors not far away (Mae Ai) have been killed.

So be careful if you get involved.

I don't agree. I am in no different position than you are.

The monk chose not to do anything but he told me.

So, I heard about it.

I chose not to do anything about it myself at this time.

Now I have told you.

We are both equally "guilty of sin" if that is what you want to call it.

It is my responsiblity only if I choose to make it so.

With your line of reasoning I suppose I should also post signs on the mountain road to warn

people of the dangers at the corners?

In my opinion, if anyone should take responsibility it is the farmer.

No doubt the monk has pointed out this danger to him.

If the farmer chooses not to do anything and the monk chooses not to do anything and the

locals choose not to do anything and you choose not to do anything, how on earth do you

figure it is my responsibilty to do something?

I am sure if I saw someone drinking this water I would immediately speak up but you are

suggesting I trespass on private property and post a poison sign, which is a different thing

altogether...and definately intervention.

The opening question is still an interesting one, especially when one looks at Buddhism in other countries and in other schools of thought... there are plenty of anecdotes and traditional stories in which Buddhist monks and the enlightened help other people in their communities.

I seem to remember some Zen story where a monk was accused of being the father of a child whose mother died in childbirth. At a village meeting, his only response was, "you don't say?" and he accepted the village's command to take care of the child without comment. Years later, the real father turned up again (a travelling soldier) asking for the girl. Those who had accused the monk came by abashed to apologise- "the real father has arrived, and we have accused you falsely." The monk's only response? "You don't say?"

I would hope that even if a devout Buddhist believed in this rule about avoiding touching women, that it would be for his salvation's sake and not as a result of anything "dirty" or objectionable about the woman. Viewed that way, it would be perfectly all right to help a woman even if it required physical contact (to save her from a danger, for instance).

"Steven"

sorry folks ... some people refuse to seee reality ... scroll up and see the 2nd referent

Why are some of you so obsessed with this “troll” label.

I told a true story that was on topic.

How is this a troll?

I guess call it what you want, but it makes you sound shallow.