SamGio

8-900 is steady/hard with about 135-140 in pulse. It's very difficult to do that in running - for me at least. In running 8-900 calories/hour would be a very hard effort, whereas in rowing it's a steady to hard effort. Very different and something that can be done 5-6 times a week. Running at that effort is not possible for me 5-6 times/week.

I don't understand how you could keep a 135-140 pulse rate doing 800-900 calories /hour. I'm no couch potato but at that pace my heart rate would be about 160. You must be extremely well conditioned.

Yes, conditioning of course has a lot to do with it. I have about 25+ years of hard endurance sports in my body.

But let me also suggest that technique in rowing makes a big difference. The concept2 website has a good 5-6 minute video. The legs really do about 60-70% of the work, so if you kick with your legs like when jumping for a basketball shot jump it starts you off nicely. Then a long steady pull etc.

So yes conditioning is a factor in my numbers of course, but technique has a large part to play as well.

8-900 is steady/hard with about 135-140 in pulse. It's very difficult to do that in running - for me at least. In running 8-900 calories/hour would be a very hard effort, whereas in rowing it's a steady to hard effort. Very different and something that can be done 5-6 times a week. Running at that effort is not possible for me 5-6 times/week.

Good info here from tropo and robblok - the main contributors in this forum part, if I may say so.

Warmup rowing is great and rowing in general too.

Just burning calories - nothing beats rowing in my opinion. Long, slow pulls at 800-900 calories per hour ( on the computer PM4).

With a bit of practice most people can do this for 90 minutes - 1200 calories. Not many older knees can hold up for that amount of calorie loss training 5-6 times a week.

Combine rowing with weights, running, yoga, PT grinders and a bit of extra stretching and you are sure to look and feel healthy.

This thread as so many others here on TV has taken on a life of its own. Even when dedicating all spare time during a work day I am still exhausted reading all the great insights here...... Keep up the great insights such as freezing your dog or polizing...

Whatever apple you want

I have gotten short and long term visas at various countries over the years. No one ever asks for the documents used to get the visa and if they try to be smart about it.....Just be strong and say to whomever: I received the visa and you just need to process it..

Enjoy your holiday here my friend - Dhaka was one of the places where a visa was needed for me - enjoyed the place.

True, I don't argue with you on what info is given and the accuracy of the given info.

I am just wondering how many millions of long term "residents" on thaiwife and other similar visa's are counted as tourists. Perhaps there are almost no tourists here..... Just saying

I have for some now been trying to understand tourism numbers in Thailand. Been here for 19+ years and during that period I have probably departed Bangkok (Don Muang first and now SuvaBKK) 15 times on average per year due to meetings and consulting abroad.

Every time, I fill out the arrival/departure slip with the usual no's (not charter, no not staying at a hotel in Thailand etc.)

However, I fill out the page with job title, salary and so on as well.

I wonder if I am registred as a tourist every time I arrive? ( I am on a yearly Thai Wife visa, so not a resident or citizen of Thailand). Anyone out there on TV with facts on this?

If I am registred as a tourist with each arrival, it seems to me that there is a bit of overcounting in the tourist numbers, as the number of people staying on yearly or three-month visa's for eternity shouldn't really be classified as tourist.

Anyway, who cares.......Probably or certainly not TAT - better get the numbers up anyway possible.

I'm surprised that anyone would consider Herschel Walker's workouts motivational. I think most people would find it demotivational. 50 - 100 pushups and as many situps done in slow strict form would serve most people better. I can get an amazing chest workout by doing only 15 - 25 reps on pushups for 3 - 5 sets.

I agree that Herschel Walker is not your average joe. However, I don't think most people would find a former Heisman trophy winner's workout schedule demotivational - I am not an American, but I know what that award takes to win.

My motivation is not for everyday life, so perhaps my thread should emphasize excellence. Working out or dieting to loose your flab go for it. My choice of motivator is a Heisman trophy winner and a long term athlete - Rambo, Luke skywalker, Michael Jackson etc you choose - my point is go for broke, but do it all within reason.

@robblok

Your points are well taken. I agree and as you say, training progresses. You used to do 4 days weight training. Now you even row on your "days off" MAF training is hard too, so it just goes to show how much you progressed in your body's ability to recuperate.

It is actually called withholding tax, and it works like this.

There are different rates of withholding tax, but in the case of contracted work it is 3%.

The employer will withhold 3% of the amount due, and pay this amount on behalf of the employee to the evenue department before the 7th of the following month.

The employer will issue a "receipt" to the employee, which the employee has to keep.

At the end of the fiscal year when the employee has to calculate his final income tax, he/she can deduct the withholding tax from the tax due. Ie. If the employee has to pay say 10.000 baht in income tax, but has withholding tax "receipts" worth 3.000 baht, then he will now only have to pay a further 7.000 baht in income tax, as the other 3.000 baht has already been paid on his behalf by the employer.

In other words, the money paid as withholding tax is not lost, it is simply a form of prepaid tax. In the case people cheat and do not declare their income and therefore do not pay income tax, the money is of course lost.

I hope this cleared the issue.

Remark: I am aware that I use the word employee above even though the person is not actually employed. I just don't know the right word to use - sorry :-)

Very well explained. It's what all legit authors (Thai and otherwise)here face from their publishing company. The company will withhold 3% from their author payments. The author then may claim it back or pay less additional taxes depending on the success of the book. So yes, definitely a legitimate law for IC's, freelancers etc.

It's great but it gave me tendonitis I've yet fully to recover from.

Its quite rough on the body i can imagine. I am wheezing like a 79yo climbing a mountain when im doing it.

Agree with all above on taking care about over training. You also eat an elephant one bite at a time.

On HIIT, I had good help with various plans. They can be adapted to various equipment. I've used it for a rower and a threadmill.

The plan I used was The Pete Plan. You can google it. It's not commercial, just a guy helping folks with input.

It took me some years, but now I do about 12 different sessions a week - three of them HIIT - I don't follow the Pete plan now, but it was a steppingstone for me and of course one has to be mindful of overtraining. However a lot is up to conditioning, genes and no ego. Do it for yourself, not to be better than someone else. So HIIT is helpful - it also toughens you up.

Just think about it: If you ever take a rest day on a non-rest day, you will cut that corner again and again. So HIIT can be part of a structured lifestyle, but as you all say - not too often.

Through a friend some years ago I heard about Herschel Walker. I have researched him quite a bit over the years - not sure whether all is to be believed.

However, he is/was a dedicated and strong performer in a number of sports and his reported diet (one vegetarian meal a day, but he probably adds in protein shakes as well) had me change things.

Now in my 40's and is maintaining my weight and fitness levels - until five years ago it was up/down 10 kilos constantly during any given year due to lack of proper diet and not a constant exercise regimen. This was after changes in my late 20's - what I previously did is a young mans game, so for a few years after the body/mind needed resting.

I had no health issues, were still young so it was hard to be internally motivated - kind of like young smokers I guess. They know there probably will be health issues in the future; short term no worries for them though. In my case I needed an external motivator like Herschel Walker to wake me up - what motivated your dieting, lifestyle change etc?

Blisters and rowing distances..... Great gloves are a must for me. I've tried a few over the years and have come to like my ninja's. www.ninjagloves.com has a great selection for rowing.

During long rows I will use 2-3 pairs for comfort.

Like most things it's a matter of conditioning, but pushing through discomfort builds mental strength for other situations IMO.

LOL. I do a lot of pushing through discomfort, but ripping the skin off my hands is not something I will push through.

Actually my gloves are cheap lifting gloves not designed specifically for rowing.

I do push myself pretty hard, but doing marathon rows is not something I'm ever going to try. I would consider that detrimental to everything I'm trying to accomplish.

I am also not going for the 100k, i find it a great accomplishment though. I am more looking to go to 1 or 2 hours just for burning calories. So far im doing 50 minutes at times. Slowly building it up. Though 2 hours might be a bit too much not only mentally but also for the time that i have available on a day. 1 hour and a bit would more suit me.

Please don't get me wrong. The 100k is a rare feat - my daily avg is more like 20k. Mix of once/twice a day with various types of rows included.

I was actually thinking about starting a thread on how a daily sports/activities program might look like, if the goal was to loose weight and later to maintain - just from each of our experiences - nothing fancy - just examples. How about some of you senior posters here started off - If not I will give it a shot later this week.

Blisters and rowing distances..... Great gloves are a must for me. I've tried a few over the years and have come to like my ninja's. www.ninjagloves.com has a great selection for rowing.

During long rows I will use 2-3 pairs for comfort.

Like most things it's a matter of conditioning, but pushing through discomfort builds mental strength for other situations IMO.

LOL. I do a lot of pushing through discomfort, but ripping the skin off my hands is not something I will push through.

Actually my gloves are cheap lifting gloves not designed specifically for rowing.

I do push myself pretty hard, but doing marathon rows is not something I'm ever going to try. I would consider that detrimental to everything I'm trying to accomplish.

Agree with the no need for ripping skin off... Actually the ninja gloves are basically sold in homepro

Tropo, do you still get blisters if you wear gloves.. since i started wearing gloves (the same i now use for lifting) i have no blisters.. and no calluses anymore. I was always against gloves but after buying them for the rower i started using them for lifting too.

Sometimes I get one on the 3rd finger joint on the 4th finger of left hand. It's because the glove doesn't cover that area properly. I can't see how the hands would last 100 K even with gloves. That would be 8.33 hours at 12K per hour. That would be a good pace for that distance.

Blisters and rowing distances..... Great gloves are a must for me. I've tried a few over the years and have come to like my ninja's. www.ninjagloves.com has a great selection for rowing.

During long rows I will use 2-3 pairs for comfort.

Like most things it's a matter of conditioning, but pushing through discomfort builds mental strength for other situations IMO.

By the sounds of it life is too good there in the USA. Why do you want to move to Thailand? All that fresh air and fresh (free) healthy food. Salmon is expensive here - about 1000 baht per kilo and the quality certainly wouldn't match what you're catching.

I gave up living on a surf beach in Australia to move to SE Asia. First Philippines, then Thailand. I often regret it.

In Australia I used my Concept 2 rower looking out at the surf from my living room - now I look at a concrete wall while rowing.

Sometimes you don't appreciate what you have until it's gone. I lived on a surf beach (Surfers Paradise) for about 20 years and took it for granted.

So true - I had a great condo on the beach, great running routes within 5 minutes of my place and life was good. However life happens..... All is impermanent.

Now I just will do my best and what comes out of it is just a bonus. However - I still remember my days in California doing triathlons with Mark Allen, Scott Tinley, Mike Pigg and others. Great fun

I'm not as surprised as you are that you improved your performance so much after a break. There's no doubt you're overtraining, but considering your main goal is to hold onto muscle while you get ripped, a bit of overtraining is not such a bad thing.

New here. Have read TV on/off over the years - in TH 20+ years.... yes, met young while studying and got married to my Thai author wife.

Wanted to say to all of you in this thread - you are motivating, positive, friendly and so on. Let me contribute a bit....

I got my first C2 model C about 13 years ago. We moved and a few years ago I upgraded. The PM4 computer with cable on the E model makes it fun logging into one's personal logbook at concept2's website.

Anyhow - enjoying seeing fitness goals discussed here.

For the Concept2 erg my goal is to stay at the 90th percentile in my age group from 500 m. to a marathon - great fun and motivating too. I will do a 100k row once just for the fun of it, but shorter distances are more fun than 6+ hours on the c2....,

Terry at concept2 in Vermont is a woman by the way ;-)

Looking forward to interact in all things healthy.