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    Engaging with Russians during wartime in Thailand?

    in ASEAN NOW Community Pub

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    On 6/20/2024 at 6:49 AM, 4MyEgo said:

     

    Agree, that said, I only really know one and he doesn't want to return to go to war as he has family here, so he has skipped.

     

    When ever I see him at the bar, I call out, hey, my Ukrainian friend, how are you, and he laughs, easy going guy to get on with, about 40, great sense of humor, and knows a lot about history and this is basically how he summed it up for me regarding, as you said; it's Putin and co forcing them to fight, but not for nothing.

     

    Zelensky didn't try to prevent the conflict through diplomacy because he lacks honor and integrity. In 2014 there was a coup. Soon after, there was a massacre in Odessa (dozens of Russians were burned alive).

     

    Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed. A civil war broke out due to the rise in ethnic tensions. For 8 years the Ukrainian military was indiscriminately shelling civilians living in Donbas.

     

    If Zelensky honored the Minsk agreement and pledged neutrality, none of this would have happened.

     

    The 8 year civil war would have ended and Donbas would have remained part of Ukraine. War is the ultimate failure of diplomacy.

     

    Zelensky, Poroshenko, Merkel and Hollande admitted that Ukraine had no intention to honor the Minsk agreements.

     

    Who didn't want peace? Who advised against the 2022 peace talks in April?

     

    Hint: Remember someone visited Zelensky in Kiev at that time. Russia's national security was compromised once NATO began to expand eastwards.

     

    Russia clearly stated that Ukraine joining NATO was a red line (November 2021) and unfortunately this concern was never taken seriously. The Russians openly stated: if nothing changes, we will be forced to act in order to defend our national security. Enhancing the national security of one country at the expense of another is unacceptable.

     

    The Russians have legitimate security concerns. 20th September, 2021. Ukraine launched military drills with US and NATO. NATO is not a defensive alliance. NATO illegally bombed Yugoslavia (a direct violation of the U.N. Charter).

     

    He said, we should never forget what they did to Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq etc. Who blew up the pipeline causing an environmental disaster?

     

    Zelensky banned all opposition and arrested a leading priest.

     

    Zelensky tried to invoke article 5 under false pretenses. Remember the incident in Poland he said.

     

    Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed. Poroshenko said, “Our children will go to schools and kindergartens—theirs will hide in the basements”. Russians will never forget the 2014 Odessa massacre.

     

    He said the whole world needs to know about it he said, but they are fed what they want to feed them.

     

    Why was Denis Kireev eliminated? He was a member of Ukraine's negotiating team during the peace negotiations. He wanted to help his country. Ukraine has a hit list.

     

    There is evidence that Ukrainian troops have been indiscriminately shelling civilians in Donbas (they used petal mines and targeted areas where there was no military presence). The Azov troops trapped in the Azovstal steelworks in Mariupol used human shields. They refused to allow civilians to leave despite of humanitarian corridors being present.

     

    Russia held a proposed cease fire in order for the civilians to leave, but Azov would not allow the civilians to leave. Ukraine has committed many acts of terrorism (car bombs and other forms of assassination). Darya Dugina (journalist) R.I.P. The first terrorist attack on the Kerch Bridge killed the truck driver and the individuals in the adjacent car (innocent civilian victims).

     

    The 2nd terrorist attack on the Kerch Bridge killed two parents and severely injured their young daughter. In order to explain this whole situation in great detail, a book would need to be written.

     

    I just passing on what he told me, obviously there was much more, to sum it up, he said, NATO is an evil, it is not what they are projecting it to be to us, it is a useful tool which helps them do whatever they want to do, and of course they pay for it.

     

    He added, we get fed a lot of propaganda, that said, he said that he didn't want to fight for his country, because governments use people to protect their rights for freedom, which to him was a load of crap, it's big business to protect their interests, and NATO pushing forward made a huge mistake, why because Putin, will use Nuks in the end, if pushed.

     

     

    A lot of red herrings here. Ukraine was never close to joining NATO, in addition Turkey and Hungary would have blocked its addition, Putin knew this and used joining NATO as a ruse to invade.

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    Engaging with Russians during wartime in Thailand?

    in ASEAN NOW Community Pub

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    On 6/20/2024 at 6:49 AM, 4MyEgo said:

     

    Agree, that said, I only really know one and he doesn't want to return to go to war as he has family here, so he has skipped.

     

    When ever I see him at the bar, I call out, hey, my Ukrainian friend, how are you, and he laughs, easy going guy to get on with, about 40, great sense of humor, and knows a lot about history and this is basically how he summed it up for me regarding, as you said; it's Putin and co forcing them to fight, but not for nothing.

     

    Zelensky didn't try to prevent the conflict through diplomacy because he lacks honor and integrity. In 2014 there was a coup. Soon after, there was a massacre in Odessa (dozens of Russians were burned alive).

     

    Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed. A civil war broke out due to the rise in ethnic tensions. For 8 years the Ukrainian military was indiscriminately shelling civilians living in Donbas.

     

    If Zelensky honored the Minsk agreement and pledged neutrality, none of this would have happened.

     

    The 8 year civil war would have ended and Donbas would have remained part of Ukraine. War is the ultimate failure of diplomacy.

     

    Zelensky, Poroshenko, Merkel and Hollande admitted that Ukraine had no intention to honor the Minsk agreements.

     

    Who didn't want peace? Who advised against the 2022 peace talks in April?

     

    Hint: Remember someone visited Zelensky in Kiev at that time. Russia's national security was compromised once NATO began to expand eastwards.

     

    Russia clearly stated that Ukraine joining NATO was a red line (November 2021) and unfortunately this concern was never taken seriously. The Russians openly stated: if nothing changes, we will be forced to act in order to defend our national security. Enhancing the national security of one country at the expense of another is unacceptable.

     

    The Russians have legitimate security concerns. 20th September, 2021. Ukraine launched military drills with US and NATO. NATO is not a defensive alliance. NATO illegally bombed Yugoslavia (a direct violation of the U.N. Charter).

     

    He said, we should never forget what they did to Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq etc. Who blew up the pipeline causing an environmental disaster?

     

    Zelensky banned all opposition and arrested a leading priest.

     

    Zelensky tried to invoke article 5 under false pretenses. Remember the incident in Poland he said.

     

    Ethnic Russians living in Ukraine were treated as subhuman. Their language and culture was being oppressed. Poroshenko said, “Our children will go to schools and kindergartens—theirs will hide in the basements”. Russians will never forget the 2014 Odessa massacre.

     

    He said the whole world needs to know about it he said, but they are fed what they want to feed them.

     

    Why was Denis Kireev eliminated? He was a member of Ukraine's negotiating team during the peace negotiations. He wanted to help his country. Ukraine has a hit list.

     

    There is evidence that Ukrainian troops have been indiscriminately shelling civilians in Donbas (they used petal mines and targeted areas where there was no military presence). The Azov troops trapped in the Azovstal steelworks in Mariupol used human shields. They refused to allow civilians to leave despite of humanitarian corridors being present.

     

    Russia held a proposed cease fire in order for the civilians to leave, but Azov would not allow the civilians to leave. Ukraine has committed many acts of terrorism (car bombs and other forms of assassination). Darya Dugina (journalist) R.I.P. The first terrorist attack on the Kerch Bridge killed the truck driver and the individuals in the adjacent car (innocent civilian victims).

     

    The 2nd terrorist attack on the Kerch Bridge killed two parents and severely injured their young daughter. In order to explain this whole situation in great detail, a book would need to be written.

     

    I just passing on what he told me, obviously there was much more, to sum it up, he said, NATO is an evil, it is not what they are projecting it to be to us, it is a useful tool which helps them do whatever they want to do, and of course they pay for it.

     

    He added, we get fed a lot of propaganda, that said, he said that he didn't want to fight for his country, because governments use people to protect their rights for freedom, which to him was a load of crap, it's big business to protect their interests, and NATO pushing forward made a huge mistake, why because Putin, will use Nuks in the end, if pushed.

     

     

    A lot of red herrings here. Ukraine was never close to joining NATO, in addition Turkey and Hungary would have blocked its addition, Putin knew this and used joining NATO as a ruse to invade.

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    Thailand will go further than legalising same-sex marriage – PM

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    28 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

    Another argument based on lefty thinking. Your logic is - agree with all gay rights snd all the downstream issues, or you disagree with gay rights. Read my posts again - it is the downstream issues I do not want Thailand to allow in the name of 'gay rights'. Example being Lia Thomas. 

     

    Where in the article does it discuss the issue of transgender athletes? Equal rights for women was probably a 'slippery slope' for you...

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    Thailand will go further than legalising same-sex marriage – PM

    in Thailand News

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    10 minutes ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

    Another argument based on lefty thinking. Your logic is - agree with all gay rights snd all the downstream issues, or you disagree with gay rights. Read my posts again - it is the downstream issues I do not want Thailand to allow in the name of 'gay rights'. Example being Lia Thomas. 

     

    equal rights under the law are not 'lefty' thinking but you stick to your ad hominem arguments...who gives a flying f**k about Lia Thomas a single case does not prove anything exect to you...

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    Thailand will go further than legalising same-sex marriage – PM

    in Thailand News

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    On 6/5/2024 at 12:25 PM, TroubleandGrumpy said:

    Exactly as I expected - all rhetoric and parroting the left wing narrative about 'supporting marriage equality'.

     

    The reality is that when we all agreed to marriage equality in the west (as I stated in my first post), we did not agree to Lia Thomas appearing naked in the girls changeroom and winning all his/her swimming events against the girls - that is the reality of not drawing a line. That is what you narrative parrots still refuse to talk about - and you will label anyone who dare questions anything related to the downstream issues of 'marriage equality' as homophobic and a dinosaur. Nor will you debate the issues - It did not matter that I asked you to define the slur you called me (homophobic) - and I could have asked you to define what a 'woman' is. You like all lefties will not engage and debate because you know deep down inside that you cannot win with logic and rational argument - only narrative and insults to force others to 'comply'. 

     

    PS - I played golf nearly every week for almost 20 years with 3 other blokes - one of which is gay. He dislikes all the activists and their BS more than me, and he showed me a lot about what most gays really think about what is happening now in the west - they disagree.  But like all the women who disagree with the radical feminists now doing a lot of damage, he cannot speak out for the backlash he and his Partner would get is far worse than what the radical activists throw at non-gays who dare questions things. 

    So did allowing interracial marriage lead to the inner-city riots in the U.S. in the 60s...per your logic...As a gay person why should I have to pat higher taxes than you because you are allowed a right that was not given to me? You are setting up straw man arguments...

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    Have any of you teachers received the ultimatum yet?

    in Teaching in Thailand Forum

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    On 10/7/2021 at 9:39 AM, kingstonkid said:

    The OPS question and stance is interesting.  The challenge that has been laid out here though is interesting and sounds like a lot of places.

     

    First the vaccines as I have read do not prevent a person for getting covid they only minimize the affect.

    Second, the argument that I should not have to get the vaccine is also true.  There is nothing to say anywhere unless yo work for the U.S. government you have to be vaccinated.  Hockey players are throwing away millions of dollars and in sme cases their careers because they do not want to get vaccinated.

     

    Third, considering that the government has mandated that Matayom students will get vaccinated to return to schools then teachers should have realized that the other side of the coin is that teachers will have to be vaccinated.  

    The government has not come out and said it but then again almost all Thais and Farang have been vaccinated willingly.

     

    Fourth you sign a contract that states that you will abide by the school policies and rules.  Unfortunately it does not say what rules or when they can be created or enforced.

     

    Finally as a teacher you may be able to convince the labour board that you are in the right (not so sure abut that)  but that only means that the school has to employ you until the end of your contract.  It does not say it has to have you teaching classes.  Therefore there is nothing saying they can not give you your own office in a broom closet and mandate you checking in at 730 and leaving at 4 each day and sit in your little room.

    https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/conversations/understanding-vacc-work.html

     

    It does help to prevent infection...

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    Have any of you teachers received the ultimatum yet?

    in Teaching in Thailand Forum

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    On 10/6/2021 at 12:50 PM, LeatFingies said:

    I’m not getting the vaccine. I haven’t been told that I will be fired, but I doubt they will resign my contract. I’m not willing to sell out.
     

    Even if I was vaccinated, I don’t think I would be teaching much longer due to the probability of contracting it when working in close proximity with so many people. 

    wow, I hope you are not teaching logic...

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    Foreigner database to be ready in six months

    in Thailand News

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    On 2/14/2018 at 3:29 PM, HiSoLowSoNoSo said:

    This paranoid military "government" will cost Thailand a lot in tourist revenue if they keep on with this stupidity.

    I've been reading for decades how this or that policy will wreak havoc with tourist numbers yet year after year the arrivals numbers climb...time to come up with a new angle.

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    Phuket Hospitals Defend Fractured Pricing

    in Phuket News

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    A reader writes:

    I went yesterday to the Phuket Provincial Hospital for a doctors visit that was only five minutes as there was nothing wrong with me.

    After that I sat waiting in a special section for 30 minutes while staff made out a bill for 1,100 baht for that five minutes with the doctor. A physician valuation/management fee of 500 baht; a hospital fee costing 200 baht and an administrative fee of a further 400 baht. That is more than I pay at Bangkok Hospital Phuket or at the Phuket International Hospital.

    I asked them why it was so expensive, to which I was told they had different prices for foreigners. I left with a bad feeling as I don’t expect to be ripped off by a decent hospital.

    If they want to charge fees like that they should at least make us aware of it beforehand.

    – Gazette reader

    Thanks for that heads up....I was going to give them a try

    Re the pricing for locals againts expats you will find most European countries have a similar policy...being a NZr seeking medical help in the UK is much more expensive for me than a UK citizen

    If there was nothing wrong why did you go to the hospital ????

    I have used several Thai hospitals and have had good treatment at fair prices. Yes, I paid more than the locals but it has never been expensive. I do believe that the main tourists cities can be very expensive so you now know the answer.

    NZ man. In the UK we pay for our NHS treatment every month

    I've been going to Paolo Hospital and its dental clinic for nearly ten years now. I've noticed for the past three years that the prices for simple dental procedures and cleaning have been going up with each and every visit. I learned today from both the dentist and their customer service representative that they have instituted a dual-pricing system, one for Thais and a higher one for foreigners. I work and pay taxes in Thailand, many more taxes than most upper-middle class Thais and I will never get any benefits from the Thai government, all that I accept. What I will not accept is paying more for medical and dental procedures just because of the color of my skin. This is discrimination pure and simple. I was also told that the owners have put in the same dual-pricing system at Phayathai Hospital. I was not aware of these practices, now that I am I will go to a hospital that will treat me as a patient and not as someone to fleece.

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