Surin13

Just posting to let posters know and especially the posters that I have help over the years, both via posting here and PM, that I will no longer be posting or replying to PM's. As I have reassessed my support towards this forum and decided going forward I that its not in my interest or that I wish to be associated with. 

I have over the last 5 odd years I spent my time providing accurate, insightful and beneficial information to members on visa issues to Australia and correcting the very bad, inaccurate and misleading information that is often posted on this forum about Australian Visa's.

I am glad that I have helped many, but much like the poster who started this thread I bid you all adieu.

41 minutes ago, TSF said:

If you have enough money load up your GF's bank account and get a bank statement, get bank statements for yourself, banks in Thailand and Oz, if you own your own home in Oz have a copy of the title

This is the worst advice you can give, there is no need to do this and doing so will just lead to a refusal.

If she is genuinely your girlfriend just state the facts, lying about it will just lead to trouble in the future. 

I suggest you read the Australian tourist visa sticky on this forum as it answers a lot of your questions, if you still have questions after reading that post and I and maybe some others will be more than happy to help. 

If you post what you wish to achieve with details or PM me I am more than happy to help.  It's doable, but would take some planning and personal information. 

Given the unpredictability of Australian government policy at the moment, I would  give serious thought about your future plans.    

What change are you talking about? the only flagged changes are that the sponsor may need sponsorship approval first, but that's been deferred for now by the Department of Home Affairs.

Do you understand that you need to be in Australia to apply for (and granted) 820/801 partner visa? 

Offshore you would apply for the 309/100 partner visa, and have to be offshore when applying/granted. 

Neither of these temporary visas require your partner to live in Australia, but will require visits, the bigger issue will be getting a resident return visa if too long is spent outside Australia once the permanent visa (100/801) is granted. 

Your situation is achievable, but would require very careful future planning (years into the future) and good knowledge of the system to get everything lined up and that's if things don't change in the future.

1 hour ago, ELVIS123456 said:

CSA does not issue them as a last resort or when the payments reach any determined level. They can issue them when they are given information (in this case from the Ex) that leads them to believe that the payer is planning/thinking (is a risk) of leaving the country and thus avoiding their current or future CSA obligations. The CSA can stop anyone who has CSA payments from leaving the country, whether they are in debt or not - they only have to be lead to believe that the person is going to leave and not pay (eg a claim made by the Ex).

This is factually incorrect, a DPO can only be issued where all of 4 specified conditions are satisfied in section 72D of the Child Support (Registration and Collection) Act 1988 .

These conditions are:

1. the relevant person has a child support liability,
2. the relevant person has not made satisfactory arrangements to wholly discharge the liability,
3. the Registrar is satisfied that the relevant person has persistently and without reasonable grounds failed to pay child support debts (as distinct from spousal maintenance debts),
4. the Registrar believes it is desirable to make such an order to ensure that the relevant person does not leave Australia without wholly discharging the liability or making satisfactory arrangements to do so.

4 hours ago, GreasyFingers said:

Yes, a crazy situation in this digital world. They still only check the passport photo when you go through immigration.

Surely you're not that naive to think thats the only thing they check in the digital world!

No its required for every visa application that is lodged. 

https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/trav/visa/biom/biometrics-countries

On 6/15/2018 at 11:06 AM, JohnGordon said:

If I wanted personal attacks I would have asked the ex, I'm sure she would be happy to oblige and also do a very competent job.

It wasn't a personal attack, a DPO is issued because you have has persistently & without reasonable grounds failed to pay child support debts and the Registrar believes that if you leave Australia you may not  wholly discharging the liability.

On 6/15/2018 at 11:06 AM, JohnGordon said:

 

What I'm looking for is a reference on Thai cultural norms.

The fact your asking this shows you don't even understand what humanitarian grounds are. 

As an example humanitarian grounds are normally something outside your control that has happen, such as parent is terminally ill, a child/partner are in a serious (life/death) medical situation or close family member has died etc,  ie life and death matters and too not let you travel would be inhumane and cruel.

It's not to appease cultural norms, so don't waste your time looking for these references.

3 hours ago, JohnGordon said:

Back to the original question - how can I prove to the CSA that I need a DAC to visit Thailand to meet my gf's parents? How can I prove this is a cultural necessity?

You can't because it's not a cultural necessity in Thailand at all, also there is nothing stopping them coming to see you etc, besides the fact they don't want too, which in itself because they don't wish too works against you.

You have no Humanitarian grounds include compassionate grounds to visit Thailand, your only grounds that you have given is personal preference. 

Given your past wanton disregard for your legal obligations and the age of the child etc I don't see the DPO being lifted until several years after the paying off the debt and a few years of meeting your obligations.

On 6/10/2018 at 10:08 PM, Lacessit said:

Ah, another person who believes figures put out by a department with a vested interest in making the figures look good.

And yet the updated figures go against your flawed opinion on the matter. 

^^^actually the above figure has changed in the last reporting period to 14.8%  

3 hours ago, Pat in Pattaya said:

This is how I see it too. Unless you have a cast iron perfect application one gets the impression that they will always find something to pull you on and use that as a reason to deny the visa.

You may see it this way but given that only about 6.5% applications are unsuccessful clearly that's not the case for most applications.

1 hour ago, Peterw42 said:

you will be sponsor.

No they won't be a sponsor as only a relative or married partner/defacto can be a sponsor.

People on this forum incorrectly use the term sponsor or sponsorship all the time and confuses people as it has a very certain meaning in immigration law.

What the OP would be doing is supporting the visa application, hence the reason to explain the relationship to the visa applicant and the circumstance if you wish for it to carry any weight for the decision maker.

1 hour ago, Peterw42 said:

actual decision is made by an Australian Government employee (there is no appeal process).

There is no appeal process for non-sponsored tourist visa. There is when the visa applicant is a relative or married partner/defacto to an Australia citizen/PR.

13 hours ago, White Christmas13 said:

What are the chances of getting a holiday visa for my female friend to Australia?

I know they are pretty slim but can it be done ? (Thai national)

She has not a lot of money in the bank has no house or property she just sells 

food like millions of other Thai people do, she has 1 daughter who is 10 years old

she is still married because her husband left her when the daughter was just 1 year

old and can not be found should I try to get a visa or will I be wasting my time and

money should she  apply in Bangkok Or can I apply from Australia

Please just honest replies

The chance of getting a visa are 93.5%

On 6/1/2018 at 10:47 AM, organicman said:

I called Australian Immigration and they said I can't until she leaves. 

Good luck with your future visas, but I can’t be bothered answering any more of your moronic questions.

10 minutes ago, organicman said:

Can anyone answer my question please. She leaves Australia next week and I wish to apply for for another visa ASAP. When can I apply? 

I can, but you need to answer the question that I asked in post #69.

24 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Sorry, my mistake, 12 months multiple entry but only 3 month for each visit.

Thanks for clarifying, as a 12 continuous visa would be highly unusual (not impossible),6mths or more visa require a medical and I haven't heard of a anything more then 6 months as a continuous visa. 

1 minute ago, Peterw42 said:

My wife just got a 12 month Visa in April and no medical was mentioned or asked for.

12mth continuous visa? 

It's a requirement for a medical if granting a visa over 6 months, not 3 months. although they can request it at any time.

I haven't read the thread, so give me a run down on the timeline of the applying, time in country etc. as there are unofficial restrictions and what your end game is.

There are so many red flags in your post, I that I agree with the refusal from what you have written. 

Happy to help, but what was the reason for the first refusal and how did you address it.

20 hours ago, Bruce5700 said:

I met a Thai girl in Chiang mai in a bar and she seems quite nice and genuine, I know many just take money and have multiple incomes from guys , but how do I know ?    I know she “ works “ in the bar ..She says she has a passport and I offered to fly her to Australia for a holiday and she needs me to send money for The visa .  She says I should wait till August as she has to go and visit her family in Khon Kaen and then get to Udon to get visa , she has sent me photo of her bank account and passport and I want to fly her here for a holiday but is this just a story everyone gets ? Any help appreciated

You will need to supply more information if you want a decent answer otherwise refer to Peterw42 answer. 

3 hours ago, organicman said:

She goes back next Wednesday to Thailand where I can her to come back to Australia again. When can I apply for another Visa? 

On 3/18/2018 at 12:53 AM, Will27 said:

Who told you to get the medical done first?

Answer this question and I will answer yours. The point of helping people on this is to exchange information not just to take.

13 hours ago, Flying Ace said:

I'm just going to go ahead with the prospective marriage visa application, and our agent said that once that is lodged the department generally looks favourably on visitor visa applications due to the fact you have placed an application in for a visa that takes a long while to get processed. 

 

It just angers me that in my own country I have to prove that I (and my fiancee) am not a criminal, and even when you do that to the best of your ability, they still don't believe that we are not being dishonest.

 

They have all the information they could possibly need from me, so even if she was to overstay (as if!), it would be easy to track me down. 

Do they really think we would jeopardise our PMV application by overstaying?

 

Crazy.

 

Did you do as I suggested earlier and as from the refusal letter it doesn't seem like you did.

Supplying payslips isn't the best evidence of funds as it only shows income, not expenditure. If that's the only thing you provided then it's not the best evidence on its own. I suggested earlier you should have submitted bank statements or other evidence as well, seems like you didn't.

Did you provide evidence of previous support financial to your GF? 

What reason and evidence did you included to cover off on a "reason to return"  as this seems the main sticking point. 

On 03/04/2018 at 5:50 PM, Chpied said:

Hi All ,
Have been in a relationship with my Thai partner for 2.5 years, in that time I have been to Thailand 11 times a total of 201 days, she has been to Aust only 3 times which has been in the last 12 months for a total of 8 months, we have just been refused a 12 month tourist visa and a failed reapplication of a 3 month tourist visa, on the grounds we are trying to circumvent (get around) the proper migration channels, we are not married and am disappointed we are being pressured into marriage in order to meet the permanent visa requirements, as our 2.5 year relationship doesn’t meet the definition of a long term relationship which is 3 years, but we could of been married after one month and that would of met the requirements, anyway I have just paid $1700 AUD for an appeal.
Has anyone been through this process, also there is no doubt we are in a committed defacto relationship.
Any advice or experienced knowledge would be appreciated.

It's pretty straight forward, your partner isn't a genuine visitor, so the rejection on those grounds is correct, 8 months in Australia out of the last 12 and then applying for another visa so soon demonstrates this as they spent the majority of the time in Australia.

You should have applied for a partner visa as a de facto couple, the requirement for a de facto relationship is to have been in a de facto relationship for a period of at least 12 month. After applying for that visa, while waiting you could apply for tourist visas.

As to appealing to the AAT, you most likely have wasted $1700, as one, you don't have grounds to appeal from what you have written, and 2 the refusal is correct given the information you have provided.

What grounds are you appealing on? 

11 hours ago, Will27 said:

Your parents income won't be of any help.

While this is correct, the value with the parents supporting the application is important seeing you live at home.