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Found some interesting info regarding this:
https://www.tilleke.com/resources/fixed-term-employment-contracts-thailand
https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=d33d39fc-bf95-4ca1-b248-a6cd5a28ab87

 

Thx, I would have never considered this ????

Hi,
I was hired for a year and then received a consecutive contract for another year.
Now I heard that this is technically illegal and in fact any continuous employment over one year makes one a permanent employee.

I was told that upon the end of my 2nd contract, should the company not extend the contract, I would thus technically be fired and as a result would have to be compensated.

From what I could read so far this is not true.

However I've gathered that should the company choose to terminate the contract prematurely I should be eligible for a severence pay of 90 days instead of the 30 days that the one year contract period might suggest.

Any insights are very welcome ????
cheers!

Little update.

There is a apparently a way out of this and that is to deregister the bike.
Ideally then you would have trustworthy thai at hand to take it over.

Then transferring it over from the thai person will be easy.

However I am running out of time and getting sick of it and will now simply keep that scooter -hah"  

Thx guys!

32 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You could try the German honorary consulate in Pattaya. They might be more flexible about doing the proof of address.

Not sure how up to date it is. Contact info is here.

http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/information/2015/29013-GERMANY-(Pattaya).html

 

Thx. unfortunately that is not an option for me due to time restrictions.
My guess is that if I shop at Department of transport together with him that might help.

But well...some say so, some say so.

I believe it is possible whithout is as PremiumLane mentioned, but he does not.
And there might be good reason for that as there is information out there verifying that It is mandatory to have.

1 hour ago, Lovethailandelite said:

Fantastic! Another office doing it different. I never knew that. Any idea how the OP proceeds now?

Yeah looks like I'm stuck.
It is like everything I buy here stays here, bc as soon as I leave I cannot sell it anymore :D

thx!
I will hop by chaeng watthana tomorrow morning...

26 minutes ago, Lovethailandelite said:

You bought the bike so must of had a Residency Certificate when you bought and registered it?

I believe when i bought it I presented my work permit, which i still had back then.

Thai immigration provides a form, but I am not sure whether I am eligible:
http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=download

http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/download/res_cert.doc

I have condo rented in my name, but my tourist visa will end in about a week...

Dunno what to do.

Every scooter shop seems to confirm i need that letter of residence, which the german embassy would not issue as I am technically not a resident.
Can't be impossible to sell an item here...

2 hours ago, PremiumLane said:

You don't need letter of residence to sell the bike. The new owner does if they are a foreigner without a work permit, you as the seller do not.

 

You need to sign the transfer papers and provide a signed copy of the photo page of your passport and your current visa. 

Yeah it sounds strange for the seller to need that.
My guess is that when you are doing it via the power of attorney you would need that.

36 minutes ago, Get Real said:

If you already are registered as the owner, and have a paper on that. It can be the book as sufficent paper.
Then it should not at all be a problem to change owner together with your passport only, as long as the new owner has all the papers needed.
That all you need. If it still do not work, you will certainly be able to use a motorbike shop, to change the name for you.

Thx,
But I am not sure I understand.
All the information I can find points to some certificate being mandatory to transfer the bike:
http://www.thailawonline.com/en/property/vehicle/transferring-a-motorcycle-in-thailand.html

Hi,

I wanna sell my scooter and apparently I need either a work permit or a letter of residence in order to transfer it to the new owner.

Some source says a police report might do as well.
Now I bought this bike when I still had a work permit - however now I am here on a tourist visa.

How would I obtain a letter of residence that would suffice with the Department of Land Transport for that purpose?

I read that at Chaeng Watthana a 90 day report would be necessary for a LoR but on a tourist visa I am obviously not doing that.

In a way I do report my residence on every entry though.
I have contract with my condo as well.

The other option might be my german embassy, but I read it does not issue one as I am still resident in my country.
Will call them tomorrow...

Has anybody ever tried?
What if I go to Mo Chit with the buyer in person?

Thx, much appreciated

For Sale:
Yamaha Mio 125 RR

year 2015
Top condition

89xx km
27.000 THB

Been an excellent ride for me - best scooter I ever tried.
Extremely nimble and a sweet set of brakes.

Staying @BKK/Thonglor...
 

I am sure that "Agent" is very knowledgeable, however , as far as I am aware a minimum requirement before a WP can be issued is for a detailed job description to be provided .

I am told that Labour Office staff are very helpful so why not ask them directly about what is required. (You may need a Thai speaker to accompany you to the Labour Office )

Yeah i kinda have all the documents I guess as I needed the WP application to get my nonB visa.

It's all Thai but it doesn't seem to contain much more than some legal clauses that the company had to sign and a brief job description regarding me and an invitation letter.

Thanks guys.
The thing is though that I just talked about this to a visa/WP agent/lawyer and he said no contract is needed in order to obtain a WP.

I don't understand how this is supposed to work though.

Thank you!

It has been a long time since I last used the language in Switzerland

No, that was really good.

The usage of "diskutieren" isn't perfectly synonymous to "discuss" though.

It is more used in the sense of " to debate".

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Well, yes I had an interview with them before I left Thailand, so everything was agreed on.

Things progressed real slow with them from there on and I had to be back in Thailand on a certain date, so luckily I got the visa right on time and went over one month before the planned first day at the office.

Pressed hard for the contract to be finished on that day, but well...

Have other companies up my sleeves, so I wasn't too worried in that regard.

Sorry to disagree.

Clearly "everything" was not agreed or you would have had a Contract+Job description available PRIOR to taking up the position.

I hope others benefit from reading this thread.

Well you are right.

I should have received the contract while still in Germany, but I didn't.

But everything was discussed in the interview.

Discussed is not the same as agreed !

(Diskutiert ist nicht das gleiche wie vereinbart ! ) Hope that is accurate !

Besprochen heißt nicht vereinbart !

That's more idiomatic

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Well, yes I had an interview with them before I left Thailand, so everything was agreed on.

Things progressed real slow with them from there on and I had to be back in Thailand on a certain date, so luckily I got the visa right on time and went over one month before the planned first day at the office.

Pressed hard for the contract to be finished on that day, but well...

Have other companies up my sleeves, so I wasn't too worried in that regard.

Sorry to disagree.

Clearly "everything" was not agreed or you would have had a Contract+Job description available PRIOR to taking up the position.

I hope others benefit from reading this thread.

Well you are right.

I should have received the contract while still in Germany, but I didn't.

But everything was discussed in the interview.

How do you expect to get a work permit without a contract? A lot of details are probably already in the labour office forms.

Ok, understand.

Thing is, as I indicated, there are other guys at the office in strange relationships with them.

One guy just got a work permit from them, but no contract yet.

Another guy - I just found out today and now please sit down first, has been working there for 6 years without contract!

He he indispensable there though. Now don't ask me how that works.

Yes, the WP is tied to the company you work for. You are not on an extension of stay yet, so losing your job/changing employers will not effect your immigration status.

ok, that's good

Well, yes I had an interview with them before I left Thailand, so everything was agreed on.
Things progressed real slow with them from there on and I had to be back in Thailand on a certain date, so luckily I got the visa right on time and went over one month before the planned first day at the office.

Pressed hard for the contract to be finished on that day, but well...
Have other companies up my sleeves, so I wasn't too worried in that regard.

So the company applied for a work permit for me and thus I was able to obtain a nonB-visa in my country.
The actual work permit I will go and get on Monday - so far so good.
Yet after one week at their office I am still waiting for them to have the contract ready (they basically had 3 months for that!) and I keep hearing: "Sorry, tomorrow!", or "within this week".

Now it's Friday and after a not so fruitful exchange today I think I've had it and I will try to get an interview with another company.
Seems like they pull off similar manouvres with other people there. Not sure about their intentions but it seems suspicious.
Anyway so i will definately get the work permit on Monday and I am wondering if it is better not to hand it to them, because I remember from a previous company that they liked to keep it and wanted me to return asap whenever I needed it.

But my main question is wether it is possible to move the work permit to another company easily in this situation. I still got about 2 month left on my first 90 days...

My understanding is that the work permit is locked to a company and any other work, including freelancing, is not allowed.

Not sure how the visa is affected by that.

Hi,
sorry does anybody know what happens when a true contract (1year) is running out?
Will it extend automatically if i don't quit it in time?

It will run out in March and I will leave the country in February.
My understanding is that the router is also part of the deal - but I think it will become me property once the contract comes to an end.

Well i went with http://www.thaivisaservice.com/ and was happy to find out that getting on a van with a farang friendly seats layout isn't too bad.
When I tried them before I was on a van where even the asians were pretty crammed in. Torture.

Anyways, everything went smooth and I am on my final Visa-stamp...
Anyone ever tried the casino? looks dodgy.

Ok then it seems I need to get into that cramped van.
Hope I won't get into any trouble. Probably better bring 20.000 in cash?

Yeah last entry in triple tourist visa.

Which company?
There was one that was going with a big bus, but can't find them anymore.