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Its the same in UK, my wife  (Thai)took the Theory test 4 times, all she got was a sheet of A4 with sorry you failed to reach the standard required,

there was a section that said which area she had failed eg awareness, road signs etc but no details and staff have no access to the actual exam taken to tell you where you went wrong,she consistently got 44 right but with no idea what she got wrong it was very difficult to correct, jus went through hundreds of pat papers until she got it right

55 minutes ago, kevinmartyn said:

The "TM 30" form is not difficult to complete. What is making me smile is that the onwers of condo's, house's, etc are required to report who is staying their. BUT it's the "foreigners" who gets to pay the fine or should i say the "petrol" money. As a foreign in Thailand we just have to accept! Yeah it's annoying but as foreigners we are not going to get the strange "Law" changed! Saying that the United Kingdom still has strange laws and one is if you have less than 2 shillings and six pence in your pocket you are a vagrant! 

 

Just as a matter of self interest and the Thai Government slogan of "Good people in and Bad out" How many bad have been found????????????

Yes the vagrancy act is still in use and people have been prosecuted under the act for sleeping rough, but it is now under review as it is not considered fit for purpose, when will we be able to say that about the TM30 in Thailand or do you consider it fit for purpose. TM30 may be easy to complete but getting it to the right place can be a nightmare, our local police want nothing to do with it neither do the local ampho, I have to go with the wife to Chang Wattanaeven though I am on the Tabien Baan an have the yellow book, I went to Chang Wattana on my own but was told my wife as the house holder had to do it, went back the next day and was fined for being late in reporting

7 hours ago, ChipButty said:

Just ban them all together

So my wife who lives in the UK and is on a settlement visa should be banned because you dont like the TM30, thanks a lot for your understanding on how families like to live together

47 minutes ago, moutamine said:

Time to switch to bread then... rice is overated anyway, empty calories...

White rice has little nutritional value, so eating it just adds empty calories to your diet.  Many people throughout the world are eating more and more processed foods like white rice that contain empty calories.  As a result, there is a rising population of people who are actually nutritionally deficient but also overweight or obese. Obesity is the new face of malnutrition and it is a huge problem.

https://www.ultrawellnesscenter.com/2017/11/02/5-reasons-brown-rice-is-better-than-white/

So eat white bread which has the same empty calories as you call them, yes wholemeal bread is available but almst a novelty is most developed countries just like brown rice, any processed food like white rice/bread etc have lots of carbs with fewer nutritional benefits, I agree that nutritionally deficient obesity is a severe proble in the developed regions of the world but saying "let them eat bread" to paraphrase Marie Antionette is certainly not the answer it is just swapping one set of empty calories for another by the way Wheat requires water to grow and a lot more fertiliser than rice

On 11/4/2018 at 5:16 AM, Tanoshi said:

As a UK passport holder she will receive a 30 day Visa exempt entry.

 

Highly unlikely, but she should have the equivalent of 10,000 baht on her person in case she is asked.

Thank you for the reply, sorry for the delay in answering been busy with my Thai daughters wedding, she will be staying with me and my family and financed by me so I hope that in the case of the 10,000 baht I can provide that.

Thank you for the reply, sorry for the delay in answering been busy with my Thai daughters wedding

On 11/11/2018 at 1:10 PM, Chartist said:

I’d give up smoking but 100% of all non smokers have died or will die within the next 100 year, and frankly I’m not willing to take that chance. 

 

I also find it annoying that fat people have an opinion about smokers, obesity is just as harmful to your health as smoking. Fat people should be taxed for every lb they are over weight in order to pay for their health care. I mean I’m incredibly tolerant by all means eat your way into an early grave but do it away from me and mine.

I might be fat but at least I dont blow foetid smoke in the general direction of everyone in the vicinity, the reasons for people being overweight are many and various some have hormone imbalance some are on corto-steriods and others are genetically pre disposed to weight gain, also in Thailand we do pay for our health care (if you hadn't noticed) so why impose a tax, you are probably talking about taxation in the UK, but I do find it a little hypocritical of you to say "I'm incredibly tolerant" and then spout such arrogant claptrap,

PS the reason I have a weight problem is due to age and infirmity due to injury I can no longer exercise or even walk as much as I used to and it has caused weight gain, not that that is a real excuse but then for people who are lucky enough to be genetically skinny, such as my wife it is easy to be critical, which my isnt

On 11/11/2018 at 6:51 AM, finnishmen said:

world Not have any evidence second hand smoking have dancerous, have only idiot peoples speak, and smoke not have any come sick, i know peoples many many, who has smoke 14 yea to 90 year and no has newer any day sick, many old men have, same me i smoke ower 40 year and no newer has sick and no newer come cigarette to sick. this is only peoples who talk shit speaking cigarette have proplem and dancerous. big shit have.

 

You are flying in the face of every bit of evidence, it has been proven beyond any doubt that smoking is the leading cause of lung cancer, maybe you are a lucky person and have got away with it SO FAR, I watched my father die from laryngeal cancer directly caused by smoking, we can all find some one who has been doing something stupid for many years and has managed to survive despite the odds but that does not make you imune or invincible, the only one talking big shit is yourself, I used to work for a Finnish company and my manager Harrald Harkensson died from cancer of the mouth after many years of chewing that foul tobbacco thing Snus that a lot of the Finns in the company liked to suck on but at leat there was no smoke to inhale. keep on smoking and bury your head in the sand, it will get you in the end

My Granddaughter is studying in South Korea and we would like her to visit us for a week in Bangkok before we go to UK, my question is as a UK passport holder will she be able to enter Thailand as visa exempt or will she have to get a visa on arrival, she will be staying at our home for just seven days and she will be arriving via Don Meung airport on a return ticket

surely this thread is not needed, the glorious leader has decreed that any form of contact between students is forbidden so there is no sex and we all know students all over the world obey the rules dont they!

perhaps they have committed an offence by posting this thread after all the PM doesn't like any criticism and has already threatened to sue the media for contradicting him and thpost is in direct conflict with his edict

10 hours ago, ttrd said:

NOT - just scanning Passport/fingerprints and as well stricten the hotel/guesthouse/landlord Reporting about Your arrival and departure. No need anymore for the worthless data which is not trustworty - hence the change...;) 

 

READ - As part of the new system, the Immigration Bureau will cancel the use of the Immigration 6 form and instead use e-passport data, Kongcheep said.

 

He said each immigration checkpoint would be equipped with identity-checking equipment, such as fingerprint readers and passport scanners, to enter information into the database.

 

At the same time, the Interior Ministry’s Provincial Administration Department must ensure that all hotels, apartments, guesthouses and other accommodation services keep and report records of foreigners using their services by informing the nearest immigration office or police station, which will in turn feed the data to the database.

However as I have my own accommodation the provincial admin dept wont have any sight of me unless I report myself as living in my own house

As I have my own property in Bangkok, when I come back from UK how will I tell them where I am staying, the arrival form was the best for this and as I rarely stay anywhere else I didnt require hotels etc to report where I was staying, so who do I now have to notify/

5 hours ago, steven100 said:

Try and get treated in the US or the UK after an accident ......

of course they want to confirm how the treatment is going to be paid ..... they are a business not a charity.

 

As for his insurance ....  inclusions and exclusions will be documented in the policy I would assume,  either he is covered or he is not ...  so if it only covers an accident on a motorbike once in a year and if that is in the fine print then thats it .....  you cannot argue if it's in back and white. The problem is not all the truth is told such as what is jake saying happened ? and what really happened ?   what has he told his family happened   ?

 

I am in no way defending the insurance company as I have little sympathy for the m .... just saying how it is.

I dont know about the U.S. but you would not be required to show ability to pay in the U.K. even as a foriegn National, they would treat you automatically and you would get exactly the same treatment as anyone else yes hsopsitals in the UK are businesses but they are not required to make a profit, that is why the NHS in the UK is in financial meltdown, so many people who come in to the UK have no insurance cover and some even come to get treatment as health tourists getting treatment for things they would have to pay for at home.

11 hours ago, darksidedog said:

I'm sure if you go ten miles outside Las vegas you won't see a Casino.

The inner part of it is flashing lights, and serious gambling, which no one denies.

Sure, ten miles outside Pattaya you have some nice attractions that are not sex related.

Trying to pretend that the centre of Pattaya isn't about sex is akin to insisting the world is flat, depsite the evidence.

Most places in Asia have sex areas, but they don't try to pretend otherwise. They regulate it to run smoothly and no one really cares.

Until Thailand stops seeing things in terms of "face", reality will elude them, but no one else really cares either.

 

if you go 10 miles outside of Las Vegas you will be in the desert with nothing but cactus for company

11 hours ago, Wilsonandson said:

It's a spelling mistake by the OP. Wreck not Wreak. I admit I had to google it to check. I suppose being an English language forum that the English part should be written correctly.
On topic, It's monsoon season down south. Wouldn't like to be travelling on a boat to Koh Samui. Sick bags at the ready!

It is not a spelling mistake :- Verb[edit]. to wreak havoc. (idiomatic) To cause damage, disruption, or destruction. The storm wreaked havoc on his garden. ... Beware misspelling wreck havoc. Both words come from the same root but in this context WREAK is correct so the English part is correct

Whilst I agree about the abuse of these magnificent beasts being horrific have you considered the alternative, these animals cost a fortune to feed, if there was a boycott on them by tourists what would happen to all these animals, they certainly wouldn't keep them because they wouldn't make money, so what is the alternative, you cannot release them into the wild, they would die of starvation or invade villages and cause untold damage, the "government" in Thailand certainly wouldn't do anything, so what is the solution, humanely destroy the animals in captivity? I think that would cause a world wide uproar, can anyone provide a sensible solution that wouldn't cause suffering or death to these animals, yes you can ban capture of wild elephants but hundreds are born in captivity every year, in fact the majority of elephants now in the venues are born in captivity. So do YOU have a solution to this! it is no use just shouting about how bad it is until you come up with an alternative

Well sorry but it hasn't and from what I read and for what I do online won't affect little old me on any way so no big deal as far as I'm concerned and most Thais I speak to don't really care either way and before you come back with "most Thais in village don't understand" yes they do they have a great understanding as most now use Internet for there small businesses. Let them do what they want to do call it what you will single gateway whatever it will not impact 99.9% of Farangs here as we don't work or have a business here. Unless of course you use certain websites for your gratification of course.

Do you access your Bank account online, do you read and reply to derogatory comments on TV then you certainly may be affected, these are just a couple of ways you can be affected as The Junta clamps down tighter and tighter to maintain is control. You could be denied access to a foreign bank account because the Junta are unhappy with the way that Countries press speaks about Thailand, you could fall foul of Lesse Majeste laws by posting on TV, there are many ways that the single gateway can affect you, a certain General is not enamoured with Farangs and Expats and is know to dislike us, if someone upsets him who knows what he will do to the free movement of information in and out of Thailand to specific countries. denial of service would be the least of your problems, your money transfers could fail, you might find you are paying to support the government by a money transfer "tax" just think of the ways you now rely on the internet directly and indirectly, Paranoid I might be but this government rules with lies and misinformation, clamping down on accessible information the Junta decides is not in their best interest has aready started.

why not simply ban entry and the sale of alcohol in any establishment to younger than 18? The law is already there but is not enforced.

Simples same as no money no honey, no I/D =no service +no booze or is this to difficult to understand. a few bib checks on bars, large fines for anyone caught seling to under 20's, done, bib happy to share fines problem solved

Good thing they nailed him but what about the footer in the photo letting us know who is in the photo. What are Farang doing there Are they in the special investigative branch

Just a poor job of reporting but then again typical for a Thai

"The arrest of Murel Gurat, 45, a long-time Bangkok resident with a lot of businesses, was announced at the head office of the DSI Wednesday. Present at the press conference were representatives from the Special Branch Police Bureau and several embassies."

Not a poor job of reporting just a poor job of reading, the copied quote from above shows the information, too quick to Thai bash !!

The military don't need an excuse, they are in charge at that is the way it will stay for the foreseeable future, I cannot see them bothering with attempted bombings like that in Bangkok. If they needed an excuse they would stop martial law first, cause a major incident, then re-impose martial law again saying that is what happens when you relax the laws at this time, it would give them a ready excuse to clamp down heavily on political parties and extremists.

I cannot believe how many armchair detectives have worked so hard to disregard any "evidence" sic that the police may or may not gathered, I swear some people on TV would disbelieve their own name, OK the BiB are not known for their brilliance in deduction but the torrent of abuse from some of these posters is just beyond the pale, insulting the whole Thai Nation's IQ is just not acceptable IMHO, perhaps some people have an axe to grind but they really need to remember they are guests, albeit paying guests in the country which they have chosen to live in as expats so they should remember that they should show some respect for the nation, Not all police are corrupt & or stupid. I have no doubt that I will be vilified for these comments by those whose intelligence is as suspect as the ones they are insulting, there is an old adage that you don't insult the host. If you think that the country is so stupid and the police are universally corrupt why do you stay, is it to exploit those very people! Go back to being Hercule Poirot and solving crimes in your dreams and stop writing slanderous rubbish on TV.for example "this was a crime of anger and fury" was the commenter there to know this, Murder by its very nature is usually a crime of anger and fury but people who have made statements like this have absolutely no evidence to base this statement on, only from police statements and "news"paper reports so they seem to be second guessing the police, unless of course they were witnesses to the event, then they should give the police a statement to assist them in their inquiries, Speculation all of it, mostly second or third hand

You are perfectly entitled to express this point of view. Equally, I get irritated by always being called a 'guest', which appears to imply I should have no opinion, based on years of residency and experience.

It's drip feed corruption that, if you like, poisons the mind to some extent.

In all my years I have never heard a foreigner in the UK refer to himself/herself as a 'guest'. They, the foreigners, are always demonstrating about something or other, and good luck to them. They are entitled to an opinion.

Just because you don't like it doesn't make the fact go away I know you may not like to be called a guest but what do you consider yourself to be, you if you are on a visa are not a citizen, you are allowed to stay in Thailand as a Tourist, immigrant worker, Married to a Thai or retired, there are many other sub divisions of visa I know, but you are allowed to stay in Thailand by the grace of the Thai government, they can withdraw the visa at any time and deport you for many reasons like it on not semantics apart you are for most relevant purposes a guest in Thailand by the let of the Thai Government, it is not what you call yourself as a foreigner that matters, you are an alien in Thailand.Why are you on about what foreigners do in UK That has nothing to do with the insults on TV about the Thai Nation from people who according to their views are better educated than the "ignorant Thai people" I have no problem with people expressing a point of view, what I have a problem with is people who take advantage to live the lifestyle they want in Thailand which they can't do in their home country & then spend their sorry lives insulting any one who would dare disagree with the Jaundiced point of view the have developed possibly from over imbibing the local brew, how dare I disagree! I should be deported, except I have gone back home because of these Jaundiced views. I am married and have been for several years to a Thai and still don't understand Thainess but I don't insult her because of it, I have learned to embrace the differences not forment hatred because of them. As I said opinions are one thing Deliberate insults are something entirely different. please don't tell me as I no longer live in Thailand that I'm not entitled to a point of view as I still have family living in Bangkok.

I just don't think a 21 year old could carry out such a brutal attack. I dont believe for a second Hannah and David were doing anything. His dna was not found on her. Also this attack seemed to have been planned, as the hoe must have been taken to the beach. But mostly what about the guy who is wearing Davids shorts.

Age of the suspect has nothing to do with brutality, the Jamie Bulger case proves that beyond a shadow of doubt

I cannot believe how many armchair detectives have worked so hard to disregard any "evidence" sic that the police may or may not gathered, I swear some people on TV would disbelieve their own name, OK the BiB are not known for their brilliance in deduction but the torrent of abuse from some of these posters is just beyond the pale, insulting the whole Thai Nation's IQ is just not acceptable IMHO, perhaps some people have an axe to grind but they really need to remember they are guests, albeit paying guests in the country which they have chosen to live in as expats so they should remember that they should show some respect for the nation, Not all police are corrupt & or stupid. I have no doubt that I will be vilified for these comments by those whose intelligence is as suspect as the ones they are insulting, there is an old adage that you don't insult the host. If you think that the country is so stupid and the police are universally corrupt why do you stay, is it to exploit those very people! Go back to being Hercule Poirot and solving crimes in your dreams and stop writing slanderous rubbish on TV.for example "this was a crime of anger and fury" was the commenter there to know this, Murder by its very nature is usually a crime of anger and fury but people who have made statements like this have absolutely no evidence to base this statement on, only from police statements and "news"paper reports so they seem to be second guessing the police, unless of course they were witnesses to the event, then they should give the police a statement to assist them in their inquiries, Speculation all of it, mostly second or third hand

 

 

 

I am sure they did see the bombing of London as a war crime and not the fire bombing of Dresden.

It is easy to forget that is how war used to be, until very recently. It was country against country and that included civilians. It was not just army against army.
During WW2, all nations used bombing of cities as a method of interfering with war production and demoralizing the enemy. Japan did it in China, Germany did it with the London Blitz, Italy did it in Ethiopia, and the allies did it with the bombing of Berlin, Dresden and Hamburg, as well as Tokyo and the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
These strategic bombing campaigns were predicated on the concept of Total War. The civilian population under the control of the enemy was seen as a resource. Therefore, the civilian populace was considered a legitimate target of attack.

 

I agree that much has been changed since then but Hiroshima and Nagasaki are of a different scale and so bad it has never been seen before. I am pretty sure that most agree it was overkill especially the one on Nagasaki. It was just a show of power towards the Russians. 

 

I thank the USA for helping us get rid of the Germans and Japanese but if something was a war crime those things were. But I am also not blind for the argument that Japan would have gone on fighting. But I really see these things.. London Dresden Hiroshima Nagasaki as war crimes. That they all did it does not make it any less bad.

 

 

 

It's very hard for us to understand what happened then, you have to live through the experience to really understand what went on, Hiroshima & Nagasaki were messages to the Japanese, they had already said that they would fight to the last man, if America had not used the bombs they would have had to have invaded the Japanese mainland and fought every inch of the way to a decisive end, it would have cost hundreds of thousands of lives for the Japanese as they would not have surrendered, they were not allowed to do so by their creedo, how many allies would have died as well, they had to drop the 2nd bomb to prove to the Japanese that the first was not a fluke and that they really could destroy all of Japan to force the Emporer to order a surrender, dont forget many Japanese even after the surrender carried on fighting untill they were killed or died and many Army Officers & soldiers commited ritual suicide rather than surrender, even as late as the 60's some when some were still being found in the jungles of Malaysia and elswhere still fighting because they could not believe the Emporer & Japan would ever surrender, we can not as westerners understand the mentality of the Japanese at that time or even today to some extent, In Japan at that time there were very few civilians as defined today, they were 100% supporting the Emporer and were mostly prepared to die for the cause, yes the bombing of Nagasaki & Hiroshima were horrendous and casualties where unbelievable but do you really think that the casualties would have been less if the bombs hadn't been dropped,when every man woman and child in Japan had been ordered to defend the homeland at all costs.

Hind sight is not always 20/20 because it always depends on personal opinion, but if we, as allies, had not used the weapons to end the war, they may well have been used later turning the "cold war" very hot I think that one ofthe reasons no Nukes have been used in anger since is because we knew in reality not in theory how bad these weapons were and unfortunately the Genie cannot be put back into the bottle. As to war crimes would you have seen Churchill & Roosevelt in the dock along side Stalin & Hirohito, war is a crime unto itself and the winners decide who was to blame but its the soldiers who pay the price, young men fight the war for old mens glory.

 

 

I am sure they did see the bombing of London as a war crime and not the fire bombing of Dresden.

It is easy to forget that is how war used to be, until very recently. It was country against country and that included civilians. It was not just army against army.
During WW2, all nations used bombing of cities as a method of interfering with war production and demoralizing the enemy. Japan did it in China, Germany did it with the London Blitz, Italy did it in Ethiopia, and the allies did it with the bombing of Berlin, Dresden and Hamburg, as well as Tokyo and the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
These strategic bombing campaigns were predicated on the concept of Total War. The civilian population under the control of the enemy was seen as a resource. Therefore, the civilian populace was considered a legitimate target of attack.

 

I agree that much has been changed since then but Hiroshima and Nagasaki are of a different scale and so bad it has never been seen before. I am pretty sure that most agree it was overkill especially the one on Nagasaki. It was just a show of power towards the Russians. 

 

I thank the USA for helping us get rid of the Germans and Japanese but if something was a war crime those things were. But I am also not blind for the argument that Japan would have gone on fighting. But I really see these things.. London Dresden Hiroshima Nagasaki as war crimes. That they all did it does not make it any less bad.