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johnsmith2

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  1. why do you now expect others to fight your battles? Previously the members were not interested in other groups,

    The members are not only fighting for their own rights but also for their guests' conditions! We all have regular visitors, friends, family, etc., who come here for a few days or weeks per year, and it is silly that we would have to go play elsewhere than on our own home-club because it is too expensive to take them there. And yes, our concern also includes our friends who live in the area and who share our passion for golf but who are members of another club or just not committed to any course in particular. We have very good reasons to all stand together in the boycott of Phoenix for now: don't you think other clubs are closely watching the issue, to check whether they could get away with pulling a similar trick? It is a dangerous precedent in our area...

  2. The message today shareholders / members of Phoenix Golf & Country Club is (to) continue with the avoidance of the club as the legal situation is ongoing and

    the reaction from The Consumer Protection Board is that what the new owners have done is totally illegal.

    They are awaiting an answer from the new owners before taking it further.

    I agree. I heard that some members now seem to think that the situation has turned sufficiently in our favour to return playing, but I would say that is a serious error. Officially *nothing* has changed yet. If some people now break the boycott, what kind of message does that send to Phoenix management? That eventually all will give in?

    No, let's continue to keep the pressure on!

  3. I will get on my hobby horse now. With the amount or falangs here why can't they ALL get together and form a group that the courses might listen too.

    Sounds like a good idea. Something is already happening, with some 150+ members trying to act in a concerted manner, but getting an umbrella organisation involved would be even better.

    I also would like to know whether the Thai members are organising themselves in a similar manner. Some coordination between the the member factions would be useful, at least some mutual information on actions envisaged or taken… Any Thai member around here?

  4. I went to Phoenix yesterday (Saturday 23) to have a look for myself. The parking lot was about 40% full, most cars were minivans, so the players were in majority from organised tours, not members. Along the driving range I also saw two touring cars. Then I took a look on the course and sure enough saw only Asian players, most of them Korean I guess. I saw only 3 farang players. The problem is of course that only farang players right now stick out as traitors. It is a pity we can not easily see how well the Thai members are observing the boycott.

    Anyway: for a Saturday at around noon, when the course should be at its very busiest, it was very bad.

    I mean: very good ;-)

    Som nam na, as they say here...

  5. I am really interested to see if this doubling of fees for a round of golf at Phoenix Golf Club has any effect on the regular players who support the clubs in the Pattaya area or if they are content to let it happen.

    I was a regular player at this course, but at this price it is out of the question I will play there again.

    Let's hope the new owners, who apparently have not the faintest idea about the business they got into, will see the light after a few very empty weeks at the course...

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