zephyrblau

13 hours ago, BritManToo said:

You can't get a Thai ID card without being registered in a Thai house book.

So if she has the ID card, she must be in a house book.

yes, issue clarified. she didn't understand the English term "house registration". once I used "tabien Baan" she understood. 

thanks to you both for the input. 

she's due back at the office in the morning. I've reinforced the notion of a "Certificate of Birthplace" document. hopefully this will bear fruit. 

thanks again 

a search here turned up nothing so... 

the good news: my fiancee visited the district office in Phitsanulok yesterday and received her name change docs translated to English (enter sound of crowd cheering).  

the bad news: her birth certificate is "damaged" AKA unavailable. packet 3 instructions read: "...If an official birth certificate is not obtainable, applicants should submit a Certificate of Birthplace, their Household Registration, and their Thai National ID card as secondary evidence." 

ID card = OK 

Household Registration: regardless of the advertisements from legal offices claiming that you need one of these to do everything from applying for a passport to purchasing toilet paper she doesn't have one (even though I can personally vouch for the passport and other stuff) she owns a piece of dads farm along with her 5 siblings, but that was just settled earlier this year and she has no paperwork as of yet. 

Certificate of Birthplace: the folks at the district office offered little more than "no have". apparently they only process requests for visa docs once or twice a year, but still. (at one point she was translating during typing of the docs)    

bad news pt 2: name change docs in hand, but that took 4 1/2 hours. she was a little frazzled during our Messenger chat last night. bless her heart... what a trooper. 

input appreciated. 

5 hours ago, mrfill said:

What happened to the 200,000Bt that was loaned?

 

That's where your answer lies.

it was a gift to her (spoiled) son to help finish & stock a neighborhood mini mart near his home in Pak Chong. 

sorry for any confusion. she wrote "...spouse..." (Google translate) after discussing the scenario w/ her lawyer.  in follow up conversations I am trying to determine if her lawyer speaks English and / or if her lawyer understands that I am a U.S. citizen.  

we are NOT married.  

it also seems logical (yes, I know...) that she could take out a loan based on the equity in the property, estimated @ 2M, at the drop of a hat. 

all points well taken. I've been traveling to Thailand for 5 - 6 years. a friend & former co-worker is married to a bar girl & right from the beginning I was made aware of the pitfalls. I've been a member of the forum for a few years so the level of cynicism here re: Thai women comes as no surprise. the first woman I was smitten with played me for 175K before announcing she would no relocate. 

my fiance is a widow. we were introduced by a mutual friend. she is not wise to the ways of the world in Thailand (P4P)  she has a son in his mid-20s who has been in a solid relationship for 3 - 4 years. his stable relationship speaks well of his upbringing. my fiance agrees to relocate. the reason for selling the house involves drama surrounding her sister, who she basically took in off the street, and her ex-brother in law who she does not trust any father than she could throw him. my fiance & her son own other properties.  she is not shy about asking for money but always sends me photos of required repairs. 

all of that said, I will drop her like the proverbial dirty shirt if I determine that I've been played.    

1 hour ago, swissie said:

When you asked her why she needs your signature, what did she say?  (with or without Google-Translate).

Or ask her Lawyer why she needs your signature. (with or without Google-Translate).

If in doubt, don't sighn anything, whistle the yankee-doodle instead and claim ignorance.

Cheers.

she says something like "...When we get married, you have to sign a house sale with me. This is the law of Thailand.
If the spouse is selling something or making a loan, the spouse must sign the certificate every time" 

maybe this holds true for a Thai husband. I told her I would consult with a Thai lawyer & she said OK. in the meantime I am attempting to get input / feedback such that I am able to speak intelligently to the lawyer.

there is no way I will enter into a contract in Thailand.   

thanks for your input.  

preface: the K-1 expires May 9, further, due to her English proficiency (near zero) and communicating via Google translate (don't get me started) I may not understand the details.

story:  

she owns her home, but surrendered the deed for a 200K thb loan from a friend. she wants to buy the deed back to simplify the sale of the home & to get her "friend" off her back. 

I suggested she go to the bank. she says there is some complication due to our US marriage. she insists my signature would be required to sell the house and / or take out a mortgage to repay the personal loan.  she says she has consulted a lawyer. sounds "fishy".  

your input is appreciated. 

the embassy has accepted our packet 3. we still need to file the DS-160 & pay the visa fee before they will schedule the interview and forward the medical exam instructions. 

we're looking for a recommendation in the Chachoengsao district to assist in this regard. (Phanom Sarakham would be perfect, but I'm not holding my breath) 

all help appreciated. 

TIA 

jerry

after a couple of email exchanges the reply was (paraphrasing) "... no problem. submit packet 3 when you are ready and the petition will be reactivated". 

I should add that the initial message and subsequent replies were answered promptly. 

per the representative that answered the phone @ the embassy they are only allowed  to provide an email address for contacting a consulate officer. 

I've emailed requesting a 30 day extension of the I-129F. I'll keep you posted.

thanks Mac;  i have a pretty good handle on the requirements after reading up over the past couple of days. the issue is I dropped the ball when I received the approved I-129 in August (misunderstanding on my part) the net result is the things that I need "...to send to your fiance ..." are there & I'm here.  I return on the 23rd & the I-129 expires on Nov. 30. 

further, I was not aware that my attendance @ the interview was a requirement. (is it ?) 

I have an idea, (or is that a "hair brained" idea ?) that we could submit an incomplete application in an attempt to delay the process & give me some time to sort things out. we're not in a hurry.       

it may be that the nearest agent is in Pataya. I'm thinking a consultation is in order. 

your thoughts ?

thanks Mac... yes, in Thailand now... until 11/23 

first post... please be gentle. if this is in the wrong area hopefully a moderator will move it to the appropriate spot. 

our 129 has been approved. that's the good news. the bad news is that I ASSumed that I was done on my side of the pond. I arrived a few days ago to discover that MUCH is yet to be done on both sides & the 129 expires in 30 days. my fiance is *not* internet savvy. (SMS messages & pix via Skype is about the end of it) 

the bottom line is that we need somebody @ this end to manage a very tight schedule. 

your help is greatly appreciated. 

jerry