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18 hours ago, ozimoron said:
The whole point of this dicussion is that you are running around saying the vaccines "prevent infection", which is a lie. They may reduce infection, but getting a vaccine is not necesssarily going to stop you from getting infected, just as wearing a seatbelt will not necesssarily stop you from being injured in a car accident.
Vaccines may "reduce" infection or severity of infection, but they do not "prevent" infection.
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51 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:
That study only measured the people once for viral loads, a flaw in its research.
Here's some more.
A vaccinated person is less likely to get COVID in the first instance, is less contagious, and is contagious for a shorter time, resulting in significantly less spread of the virus through a highly vaccinated community.
"vaccinated people clear the virus faster, with lower levels of virus overall, and have less time with very high levels of virus present."
The site you posted is obscure and not a good source of information.
According to the CDC as reported in Newsweek, viral loads are quite similar between both groups. https://www.newsweek.com/cdc-data-shows-delta-variant-breakthrough-cases-equally-contagious-unvaccinated-people-1614521
Do you disagree with the CDC?
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3 hours ago, heybruce said:
If there were vaccinations that prevented to two leading causes of death, heart disease and cancer, I would eagerly get them.
If there were a vaccination that prevented COVID, I would consider getting it.
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3 minutes ago, ozimoron said:
I always leave them. Anecdotes are proof of nothing. I prefer scientific rigor. Take it or leave it ????
For some odd reason, I don’t believe you ????
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2 hours ago, ozimoron said:
actually, no. The anecdotes are overwhelmingly on one side of the debate. The side that believes in science finds it easier to cite actual credible research and data. The other side can't find any.
Maybe you’re only hearing certain anecdotes because you self-select for certain information sources and most of your friends share your own views. I can tell you that most of the anecdotes I have been hearing lately from friends, coworkers and family are much more in line with the observations I stated earlier.
And besides, they’re just observations. Take them or leave them ????
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5 hours ago, Danderman123 said:
That’s why science relies on clinical studies.
Did someone say it didn’t?
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Staff don’t care about the details of the tests anyway. They just want you to audibly say you took the test and wave any old piece of paper so they can have plausible deniability in case the manager catches them on camera.
Same goes for lots of other countries, too. Seems fewer people really take any of this stuff as seriously as the media lets on. It’s mostly all just for show.
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I had absolutely no idea there was such a thing as a Thai expat radio station.
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11 minutes ago, placeholder said:You should publish this in The Journal of Unverified Anecdotes.
Sorry you don’t like my observations. Plenty of anecdotes going around on both sides of this debate. You are certainly free to disbelieve every word I said.
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I am pro-vaccines (I have had quite a few, especially during adolescence) but happily skipped COVID mRNA therapy since I don’t trust the manner in which they were produced and blanket foisted onto the public with zero regard for age, preexisting conditions, or risk factor. I am young and healthy and not at risk. The vast majority of my friends, both here and scattered around the world, also passed on this “vaccine”. Like attracts like, as they say. I have lost quite a few friends over the past year—once they heard I did not get mRNA therapy, they simply stopped engaging with me. I assume they are paralyzed by hatred and fear that I am some type of murderer for not putting my head down and complying like they did. And now that the inefficacy of the mRNA therapies is becoming obvious, they are probably angry at themselves and projecting that into the rest of us.
Ironically, neither I nor any of my unvaxxed friends has been sick in the past couple of years, and certainly not with COVID. One friend of mine who went back to a job in Northern Europe told me that all of his vaxxed coworkers have been out sick frequently over the past several months. Last week he was the only one working in the office, since the rest was out sick! A few of my jabbed coworkers back in my home country have all been suffering very oddly recurrent sicknesses after getting jabbed. They will get sick, then recover then be sick again within just a month or two. Quite odd and I don’t remember that sort of thing happening years ago.
While my good friends are all unvaxxed, most of their girlfriends, on the other hand, have gotten vaxxed and boosted, and nearly all of them have complained of disruptions to their menstrual cycles. One friend’s GF got vaxxed 7 months ago and hasn’t had a period since. My girlfriend has shared text messages revealing her coworkers discussing such things, though they wouldn’t dare bring it up in the workplace due to fear of losing face. One must wonder how permanent the damage to their reproductive systems will prove to be.
That said, many of my family who are also unvaccinated did get COVID, and experienced varying levels of symptoms. My mother was affected the worst (sick for two weeks) but it was never worse than a bad flu. Even my 90 year old grandmother (who is vaccinated) got COVID, but she is also fine now.
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On 8/25/2021 at 7:33 PM, jackspade said:
Did you keep your masks on?
@rcuthbert That wasn't a rhetorical question. I'm genuinely curious if you and the massage girl kept your masks on ????
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4 hours ago, rcuthbert said:
Went to a massage shop today. The gal put oil on both hands. I feel like she did not see the "real me" - I felt undervalued, and very uncomfortable; however, I soon forgave her...
Did you keep your masks on?
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4 hours ago, richard_smith237 said:
How can you possibly know that, you are not Thai.
So only Thai people can notice other Thai people doing things?
I guess you think only Americans can notice other Americans doing something, or only Brits can really notice other Brits doing something?
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While COVID can "technically" be transmitted via surfaces, according to the CDC it's only 1 in 10,000 cases.
That's not to say we shouldn't all continue washing our hands.-
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2 hours ago, Jeffr2 said:
A study just came out showing countries that did lockdowns fared a bit better economically than ones who didn't. I'll find the article.
Find that article.
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4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:
Since you have now reached the point of calling me a liar I feel I ought ask you to back up your own claims.
Provide evidence of claims that the vaccines would be 100% effective.
What are you on, bro? Are you that out of touch? People—doctors, presidents, officials—were saying it all over the news media, throughout 2020 and earlier this year.
As perhaps one of the best-known examples, ol' Joe Biden himself said it. He was fact checked. News article here:
https://www.wthr.com/article/news/verify/biden-falsely-claims-people-vaccinated-against-covid-19-cant-get-infected/531-bd262f52-e4a1-4ff8-9855-9a7e0ece588f
According to your own logic, this proves you're a liar. Although personally I just feel you're terribly misinformed. SMH-
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52 minutes ago, cclub75 said:
This is anti-science. Look a Sweden. No lockdown, thank you very much. And ?
Lower number of deads (in proportions) than France or UK.
1 438 versus 1 736 and 1 931 (deads per million, source Worldometer).
To be fair, this is hardly statistically significant.
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On 8/18/2021 at 5:14 PM, placeholder said:
Thus is a link to a study done by Ivermectin cheerleaders.
Thus do you derogatorily label HUNDREDS of MD's as "cheerleaders" rather than doing any due diligence on their arguments whatsoever.
Maybe the real cheerleader here is you, who are a cheerleader for censorship.-
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On 8/15/2021 at 4:40 PM, placeholder said:
Fact-checking Dr. Stock’s COVID-19 claims at the Mt. Vernon school board meeting
Just to fact-check your MSNBC-owned fact-checker... it's pretty funny who you trust.
“As far as Ivermectin, VERIFY has investigated this issue before, and the drug is not currently recommended for the treatment of COVID-19 – even by the company that manufactures it. Last month, drug company Merck, which makes the brand-name of Ivermectin, told VERIFY it stands by its February statement that said there is “no meaningful evidence” the drug helps patients with Covid-19."
Oh really? "EVEN" by Merck... a company that's been marred over the decades by a series of scandals, and is buried in lawsuits for destroying the lives of thousands of people over the decades?
Like I said, funny who you trust.
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On 8/11/2021 at 10:41 AM, placeholder said:I guess the overwhelming majority of epidemiologists and virologists are non-nuanced thinkers. And we know that because someone who is neither an epidemiologis or a virologist says so.
That's not what I'm saying, but just for fun, let's listen to one:
Dr. Dan Stock, MD, trained in immunology and inflammation regulation. A very short video, quite easy to consume. Links in description. Lots of videos just like this from MD's all over the internet.
An interesting quote: "Studies show that people who have recovered from COVID-19 get no benefit from vaccination at all, no reduction in symptoms, no reduction in hospitalization, and suffer 2-4 times the rate of side effects if they are subsequently vaccinated."
Of course, this doctor is no Fauci, he is not an Official Spokesperson for an Official Governmental Organization (the only sorts of entities which could possibly have humans' best interests at heart), so surely he must be utterly lying through his teeth.
https://tv.gab.com/channel/standonprinciples/view/dr-destroys-the-entire-covid-narrative-611132777b022aa59dd65777?ts=5-
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On 8/11/2021 at 12:31 PM, hotandsticky said:Surely if they put a pacemaker in she couldn't have been in "great health".............. or are you suggesting that the vaccination was the sole cause of the need for a pacemaker?
She was in excellent health—had never had a heart condition. Why did it suddenly start the day she got the vaccine? Was that just a coincidence? You may be living under the assumption that a covid vaccine could not possibly cause harm. That is simply blatantly untrue. Just look at the skyrocketing VAERS data.
Yours appears to be a blind, simplistic belief system (a "four legs good, two legs bad!" type of approach) that seems to be the status quo for a lot of people. When met with information that contradicts their belief system about experimental covid vaccine's ability to cause disease and death, their gut reaction—much akin to highly religious people who are mortified of their status quo being shaken—is to reject, reject, reject. "No! It's not possible that someone could get sick from a COVID vaccine!" they say.
FWIW, I just got a phone call from my mother back in the US—apparently my aunt—who got vaccinated 2 weeks ago—was just admitted to the hospital with COVID and pneumonia.
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On 8/7/2021 at 2:00 PM, Jingthing said:Tell that to the politically motivated anti vaxxer nut jobs begging to be vaccinated on their death beds too ignorant at that point to even know vaccines aren't treatments.
If you're saying that it's logical to not prefer Sinovac brand then I would agree there is some nuance, but something is better than nothing.
JingThing, let me educate you and break things down for you. I don't expect you could possibly disagree with the following definitions. Just trying to establish some common ground here:
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I've been noticing that the moderators here have a tendency to simply go in and erase certain posts without notifying the poster of any violation of TOS.
Just curious what the explanation is. ????