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stevenl

No to imply something has a different meaning to excusing something.As is an assumption is to an ascertion she has not directly made excuses for him or condoned him she is defending him and he's actions which is bad enough.She would of been better to have zipped it up and steered clear of this thread,considering she is related and will obviuosly only have a biased oponion.I have read the thread and have based my opinion she wont agree of course but that's what forums are about.

Please tell me what the hell I'm not agreeing with??????????????

You are agreeing with nothing,i stated you wont agree with my opinion,

Yes you are defending him and supporting him as i would to,i never said anywhere that you should turn your back on him i said maybe you should of removed yourself from discussion based on the fact you are related and you have got a biased oponion.

Your oponion has know changed you have stated thes he's not getting bail he's pleading guilty and he's going to jail for a long time.My presumptions were based on oponion that i thought he was guilty and cleary he is.

I did word my original post wrong by saying you were making excuses as you were not my apologies, but you were laying blame on he's ex wife the thai drug dealer setting him up which was right he was set so the thai dealer can get off but it takes 2 to tango.

I dont derive pleasure on other peoples misery but i dont sympasize with meth dealers i have seen first hand the effects that,that purely evil drug has had on the young users and there familys it is a very sinister drug very dangerous.it literally tears familys apart.

Anyway I'm done with you and your ignorant, ill-informed, and misread thoughts.

stevenl

No to imply something has a different meaning to excusing something.As is an assumption is to an ascertion she has not directly made excuses for him or condoned him she is defending him and he's actions which is bad enough.She would of been better to have zipped it up and steered clear of this thread,considering she is related and will obviuosly only have a biased oponion.I have read the thread and have based my opinion she wont agree of course but that's what forums are about.

Please tell me what the hell I'm not agreeing with??????????????

You are agreeing with nothing,i stated you wont agree with my opinion,

Yes you are defending him and supporting him as i would to,i never said anywhere that you should turn your back on him i said maybe you should of removed yourself from discussion based on the fact you are related and you have got a biased oponion.

Your oponion has know changed you have stated thes he's not getting bail he's pleading guilty and he's going to jail for a long time.My presumptions were based on oponion that i thought he was guilty and cleary he is.

I did word my original post wrong by saying you were making excuses as you were not my apologies, but you were laying blame on he's ex wife the thai drug dealer setting him up which was right he was set so the thai dealer can get off but it takes 2 to tango.

I dont derive pleasure on other peoples misery but i dont sympasize with meth dealers i have seen first hand the effects that,that purely evil drug has had on the young users and there familys it is a very sinister drug very dangerous.it literally tears familys apart.

You are blind. Not once have I said he's pleading guilty. Meth tears families apart? Dont you think my own family knows this? Do you not think people who are meth users could possibly turn into meth dealers? Then does that lose the sympathy card from you because they are now outsourcing to those you sympathise with and making a profit that will then be used to feed their own habit? It is a nasty nasty drug but it starts somewhere.

Under Thai law if you plead innocent yet cannot prove it then you will most likely receive a harsher punishment than if you had pled guilty. Either way this is not just going away for him, not something he is going to be able to buy his way out of.

stevenl

No to imply something has a different meaning to excusing something.As is an assumption is to an ascertion she has not directly made excuses for him or condoned him she is defending him and he's actions which is bad enough.She would of been better to have zipped it up and steered clear of this thread,considering she is related and will obviuosly only have a biased oponion.I have read the thread and have based my opinion she wont agree of course but that's what forums are about.

Please tell me what the hell I'm not agreeing with??????????????

Let there be no confusion Halpin is no fool he has been living here for over 20 years. He is and was never a civically minded person indeed quite the opposite. He joined the Tourist Police Volunteers to make money and that he did. Not just by dealing in drugs but by using other ways and means to further disadvantage others who turned to him for help. Halpin operated in the corruption den which is Chalong police station and I estimate this is just the tip of the 'ice' berg. Indeed this could potentially be the beginning of the end of Phuket if his prosecution is taken to a conclusion. And for those who suggest he is a kind caring family man should perhaps ask his wife who will tell a different story. Sent from my i-mobile i-note 3 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

I really like that you think you know so much about my family and Garry's wife as she is FAR from perfect. I am a very neutral and objective person (despite what people may perceive) and I do love his wife however she also deserves a lot of blame. You cannot judge ANYONE until you know the whole story, not just one side but both sides.

Know that explains the missplaced loyality i wasn't aware that abcd ect was related.Yes there allways is 2 sides of the story and u seem oblivious to the other side of the story well in denail actually,You are telling us he's having a tough time of things lately so that's a fair enough excuse to become a meth dealer PLEASE there is no excuse to become a dealer in misery and death i'm sure he's a great father and i'm sure he would wring he's kids necks if they went near that toxic shit.

But as long as he's dealing to someone's elses kids that's ok (father of the year in my book)

Sorry if i seem judgemental but im reading this from start to finish and i have formed my own oponion and there say i would be very close to the mark

no??

Nowhere did abcdefghi claim that the hard times he had lately are an excuse.

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Not directly no,but if you read between the lines she's been implying that the whole time.

You're pathetic. Don't say what I'm supposedly implying. What I have said is what I mean. Not that I have to justify anything to you.

Let there be no confusion Halpin is no fool he has been living here for over 20 years. He is and was never a civically minded person indeed quite the opposite. He joined the Tourist Police Volunteers to make money and that he did. Not just by dealing in drugs but by using other ways and means to further disadvantage others who turned to him for help. Halpin operated in the corruption den which is Chalong police station and I estimate this is just the tip of the 'ice' berg. Indeed this could potentially be the beginning of the end of Phuket if his prosecution is taken to a conclusion. And for those who suggest he is a kind caring family man should perhaps ask his wife who will tell a different story. Sent from my i-mobile i-note 3 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

I really like that you think you know so much about my family and Garry's wife as she is FAR from perfect. I am a very neutral and objective person (despite what people may perceive) and I do love his wife however she also deserves a lot of blame. You cannot judge ANYONE until you know the whole story, not just one side but both sides.

Know that explains the missplaced loyality i wasn't aware that abcd ect was related.Yes there allways is 2 sides of the story and u seem oblivious to the other side of the story well in denail actually,You are telling us he's having a tough time of things lately so that's a fair enough excuse to become a meth dealer PLEASE there is no excuse to become a dealer in misery and death i'm sure he's a great father and i'm sure he would wring he's kids necks if they went near that toxic shit.

But as long as he's dealing to someone's elses kids that's ok (father of the year in my book)

Sorry if i seem judgemental but im reading this from start to finish and i have formed my own oponion and there say i would be very close to the mark

no??

Collect...receive?

It doesn't really matter as the payment is a bribe. It is against the rules and therefore illegal.

But then he was moulded in the corrupt centre of Thailand....Chalong Police station.

Why did they turn on him? I bet this won't go the distance as he knows the inside story all too well. I'd look over my shoulder if I was Halpin. He deserves his "friends" in the police force.

He was not arrested by anyone from the Chalong Police he was arrested by the Phuket Provincial Police.

I didn't say he was arrested by Chalong police. in fact I don't give a toss who arrested him.

Anyone who has nearly 20 grammes of Meth and is off the streets is fine by me.

I didn't say you did but you chose to say: Why did they turn on him? I bet this won't go the distance as he knows the inside story all too well. I'd look over my shoulder if I was Halpin. He deserves his "friends" in the police force. So I was replying to your incorrect statement.

His "friends" at Chalong did not and have not turned on him. It was the Provincial police who made the arrest. Not much help Chalong police can do for him when the Provincial police splashed this across the media.

Collect...receive?

It doesn't really matter as the payment is a bribe. It is against the rules and therefore illegal.

But then he was moulded in the corrupt centre of Thailand....Chalong Police station.

Why did they turn on him? I bet this won't go the distance as he knows the inside story all too well. I'd look over my shoulder if I was Halpin. He deserves his "friends" in the police force.

He was not arrested by anyone from the Chalong Police he was arrested by the Phuket Provincial Police.

I appreciate indeed understand you defending Garry but sadly the people he abused and disadvantaged in his swift rise up the corruption ladder will burry him on the way back down. His wife? Nobody can defend what he did to her. Sent from my i-mobile i-note 3 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Let there be no confusion Halpin is no fool he has been living here for over 20 years. He is and was never a civically minded person indeed quite the opposite. He joined the Tourist Police Volunteers to make money and that he did. Not just by dealing in drugs but by using other ways and means to further disadvantage others who turned to him for help. Halpin operated in the corruption den which is Chalong police station and I estimate this is just the tip of the 'ice' berg. Indeed this could potentially be the beginning of the end of Phuket if his prosecution is taken to a conclusion. And for those who suggest he is a kind caring family man should perhaps ask his wife who will tell a different story. Sent from my i-mobile i-note 3 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

I really like that you think you know so much about my family and Garry's wife as she is FAR from perfect. I am a very neutral and objective person (despite what people may perceive) and I do love his wife however she also deserves a lot of blame. You cannot judge ANYONE until you know the whole story, not just one side but both sides.

First of all Garry Halpin is a member of my family and we are absolutely shocked and saddened by this news. Garry is a wonderful, kind, caring and GENEROUS person who has made some devastatingly bad decisions!

For everyone saying he should be made an example of and should rot in jail, please know he is the sole provider and carer for two young children and you cannot judge someone based on an awful mistake when you do not know him nor know what led to him being put in this stupid situation...desperate times call for desperate measures...and NO that does not condone or justify doing what he did but he has been going through tough times recently. Our family only wishes now that we knew the extent of this so that we could help.

He is not a terrible person, he has just made a terrible terrible choice.

Garry helped me in an emergency in October this year and was in full uniform and driving a police truck at the time. I found him at the Chalong police station and he escorted me in heavy traffic to my home where a medical emergency was taking place with a neighbor that needed an ambulance. He acted with professionalism and I am very grateful to his help that helped save my neighbor's life. I just can't believe all of this has happened and feel truly sad for what may happen to Garry now under the Thai justice. I can't believe that he was not a tourist police since April! I smell a rat!

Thank you for posting this.

I wonder how many years he'll get?

I think he knows it's going to be most of the rest of his life, judging by the miserable face he's got in the photographs.

It must be like looking down the deepest well imaginable and know you're about to fall in.

18 grams is a decent haul, an Australian got busted in Malaysia with 30 grams and he will swing. I dont think Thailand is as harsh as Malaysia though. I reckon he will get about 8-10. Maybe 6 with good behaviour, he can write a book after and we can see it for sale at all the airports in Thailand

Funny you say that as he has writen a book before, about the time he helped ID bodies after the tsunami, helped contact the families of lost ones found either dead or alive, took people in to his home made them food and let them stay with him when they had nowhere else to go.

First of all Garry Halpin is a member of my family and we are absolutely shocked and saddened by this news. Garry is a wonderful, kind, caring and GENEROUS person who has made some devastatingly bad decisions!

For everyone saying he should be made an example of and should rot in jail, please know he is the sole provider and carer for two young children and you cannot judge someone based on an awful mistake when you do not know him nor know what led to him being put in this stupid situation...desperate times call for desperate measures...and NO that does not condone or justify doing what he did but he has been going through tough times recently. Our family only wishes now that we knew the extent of this so that we could help.

He is not a terrible person, he has just made a terrible terrible choice.

maybe so BUT it was HIS choice, especially as you say he had family to turn to that would of helped, I have made some awful choices and decisions in my life time and burnt my bridges as I went so had no one to help, I never turned to crime as such to help though.

Yes it was his choice..a very terrible one. Yes we would of helped him had we known, but he is too proud of a person to ask for help. In no way does that justify his actions. I do agree with you, yet this is devastating to us and his children so it is just irritating how people are very quick to judge, when you walk a mile in someone elses shoes or know someone in the situation it's not as clear as you think it would be.

In reply to what you just said:

Absolutely not. His parents divorced when he was 10, he moved to Australia because his father was moving there and he chose to live with him. There were a lot of hard times before his father made any profit on his business and did I say it was SUCCESSFUL?! It wasn't a huge business just his father, Garry and Garry's brother working so I'm sure they would of made no more than $10k each, which in those days would of been a lot to a young man starting his life and finding his path in the world!

Even his supervisor Wal has stated he was taking money when he shouldnt have been. The drugs isnt the only thing this rooster was up to. And its been for a long time. You dont just come to another country and start dealing drugs. Im sure he has done it before in the west. Thats why he was so comfortable with it Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Done it before in the West? He has lived in Thailand since he was 22 years old! He was in NZ and Australia before this working for his father..you know nothing!!!!

what sort of work was his father doing? Also the average age for a drug dealer in any country would have to be less than 20

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Not that it is any of your business but he had his own building company before he passed away and sold the company, left money to both of his sons (one which was Garry) who then decided on traveling around the world yet stopped in Thailand, fell in love with the island life and started a reputable business until he fell on hard times. Hope that kills some of your nosy curiosity.

First of all Garry Halpin is a member of my family and we are absolutely shocked and saddened by this news. Garry is a wonderful, kind, caring and GENEROUS person who has made some devastatingly bad decisions!

For everyone saying he should be made an example of and should rot in jail, please know he is the sole provider and carer for two young children and you cannot judge someone based on an awful mistake when you do not know him nor know what led to him being put in this stupid situation...desperate times call for desperate measures...and NO that does not condone or justify doing what he did but he has been going through tough times recently. Our family only wishes now that we knew the extent of this so that we could help.

He is not a terrible person, he has just made a terrible terrible choice.

maybe so BUT it was HIS choice, especially as you say he had family to turn to that would of helped, I have made some awful choices and decisions in my life time and burnt my bridges as I went so had no one to help, I never turned to crime as such to help though.

Yes it was his choice..a very terrible one. Yes we would of helped him had we known, but he is too proud of a person to ask for help. In no way does that justify his actions. I do agree with you, yet this is devastating to us and his children so it is just irritating how people are very quick to judge, when you walk a mile in someone elses shoes or know someone in the situation it's not as clear as you think it would be.

Even his supervisor Wal has stated he was taking money when he shouldnt have been. The drugs isnt the only thing this rooster was up to. And its been for a long time. You dont just come to another country and start dealing drugs. Im sure he has done it before in the west. Thats why he was so comfortable with it Sent from my GT-N7100 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

Done it before in the West? He has lived in Thailand since he was 22 years old! He was in NZ and Australia before this working for his father..you know nothing!!!!

Believe me he is by no means an angel (AS NO ONE IS) he is a guy who does like to have fun, is adventurous, care free but has a huge heart and he has done so much good that is now tainted by this. Don't tell me to watch this space please as I know more than you ever will on this topic

Fine, you have defended your mate good, and he was not a dealer.

Since you know him so well, tell us what he was doing with 18 gram of Meth in his room. It's not that a user stocks up because he expects a price rise is it.

First of all have you read anything I wrote.... I have not denied he did anything wrong...he is in the wrong. Secondly he is not my MATE he is a very close member of my FAMILY. I said he denies dealing and is innocent until proven guilty. He does have personal issues and whatever he chooses to accept or deny our family will support him (however we are very disappointed and do not condone this at all...I just want to make that clear!!!)

Does anyone wonder HOW he was caught???? What about the THAI native who first sold Garry the drugs??? He himself was caught and in exchange for getting off the hook set Garry up plus an exchange of $$$$ was given to the corrupt Thai cops.

Really. Why did he accept the drugs from the Thai dealer? Your post states "he is in the wrong." Then you state "He himself was caught and in exchange for getting off the hook set Garry up." So, which one is it? He's in the wrong - or was set up????

Is his defence going to be that he went for the deal - under cover?

Do you not read what I write properly? GARRY WAS IN THE WRONG. YES. The THAI native was ALSO in the wrong and SET GARRY UP to save himself.........to spare himself jail time the Thai dealer paid off the cops and gave them Garry who DID have posession of the drugs.

Oh my goodness. How many times do I have to say the same thing over and over?

Believe me he is by no means an angel (AS NO ONE IS) he is a guy who does like to have fun, is adventurous, care free but has a huge heart and he has done so much good that is now tainted by this. Don't tell me to watch this space please as I know more than you ever will on this topic

Fine, you have defended your mate good, and he was not a dealer.

Since you know him so well, tell us what he was doing with 18 gram of Meth in his room. It's not that a user stocks up because he expects a price rise is it.

First of all have you read anything I wrote.... I have not denied he did anything wrong...he is in the wrong. Secondly he is not my MATE he is a very close member of my FAMILY. I said he denies dealing and is innocent until proven guilty. He does have personal issues and whatever he chooses to accept or deny our family will support him (however we are very disappointed and do not condone this at all...I just want to make that clear!!!)

Does anyone wonder HOW he was caught???? What about the THAI native who first sold Garry the drugs??? He himself was caught and in exchange for getting off the hook set Garry up plus an exchange of $$$$ was given to the corrupt Thai cops.

I think you missed the point of my question, if he wasn't a dealer, then what was he doing with 18 grams of meth ?

No I got your question but as I replied to you, that is up for Garry to accept or deny. I know Garry has many flaws but he's also a wonderful person and father. So obviously you must be smart enough to make your mind up about what he could possibly be doing with 18g of meth. I don't need to spell anything out to you.

Believe me he is by no means an angel (AS NO ONE IS) he is a guy who does like to have fun, is adventurous, care free but has a huge heart and he has done so much good that is now tainted by this. Don't tell me to watch this space please as I know more than you ever will on this topic

Fine, you have defended your mate good, and he was not a dealer.

Since you know him so well, tell us what he was doing with 18 gram of Meth in his room. It's not that a user stocks up because he expects a price rise is it.

First of all have you read anything I wrote.... I have not denied he did anything wrong...he is in the wrong. Secondly he is not my MATE he is a very close member of my FAMILY. I said he denies dealing and is innocent until proven guilty. He does have personal issues and whatever he chooses to accept or deny our family will support him (however we are very disappointed and do not condone this at all...I just want to make that clear!!!)

Does anyone wonder HOW he was caught???? What about the THAI native who first sold Garry the drugs??? He himself was caught and in exchange for getting off the hook set Garry up plus an exchange of $$$$ was given to the corrupt Thai cops.

First of all Garry Halpin is a member of my family and we are absolutely shocked and saddened by this news. Garry is a wonderful, kind, caring and GENEROUS person who has made some devastatingly bad decisions!

For everyone saying he should be made an example of and should rot in jail, please know he is the sole provider and carer for two young children and you cannot judge someone based on an awful mistake when you do not know him nor know what led to him being put in this stupid situation...desperate times call for desperate measures...and NO that does not condone or justify doing what he did but he has been going through tough times recently. Our family only wishes now that we knew the extent of this so that we could help.

He is not a terrible person, he has just made a terrible terrible choice.

Alphabet - are you discounting the possibility of a setup?

Has he 'accepted' the charges, or 'acknowledged' the charges? Mai muan gun.

I'm not going to comment on that as that's for him to say his side of the story, obviously the way he was caught was a set up but it happens all the time and he was doing something wrong which he will now have to face up to.

its not the only thing he was doing and he has been doing it for years. Watch this space

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Believe me he is by no means an angel (AS NO ONE IS) he is a guy who does like to have fun, is adventurous, care free but has a huge heart and he has done so much good that is now tainted by this. Don't tell me to watch this space please as I know more than you ever will on this topic

He is not a terrible person, he has just made a terrible terrible choice.

According to the charges (which he apparently has accepted), he was not using drugs, but dealing ya ice and ya bah.

Please don't talk to me about terrible choices. I am a Tourist Police Volunteer in Phuket and proud of that fact. I saw my marriage and family life destroyed due to scum like him selling drugs to my (now ex) wife.

Like Wal (see previous post with his comments), I am completely p*ssed off with Gary. His illegal activites will forever be linked to his work as a TPV - there is no question about that.

There are many honest and hard-working volunteer police in Phuket and other locations. We are not all power-crazy and corrupt (the last time I wore jackboots was at Eden Club....)

I am frankly, shocked that he could stoop so low as to deal in drugs, using his TPV status as some form of protection and immunity.

Simon

Well don't believe what you read because he has not accepted any charges as of right now. It also says he lived in Thailand for 15 years yet he has lived in Thailand for over 30 years.

Good for you that you are a Tourist Police Volunteer and you should be proud. Yes he has done the wrong thing, I completely agree but you cannot blame him for your (ex) wife buying drugs....thats that individuals decisions and not to be blamed on where they get it from! so I'd have to disagree and say your wife was SCUM. He denies selling the drugs so innocent on that count until proven guilty.

Yes he has made a horrible choice but don't you think he is now going to pay for it for the rest of his life?! As are his children????

First of all Garry Halpin is a member of my family and we are absolutely shocked and saddened by this news. Garry is a wonderful, kind, caring and GENEROUS person who has made some devastatingly bad decisions!

For everyone saying he should be made an example of and should rot in jail, please know he is the sole provider and carer for two young children and you cannot judge someone based on an awful mistake when you do not know him nor know what led to him being put in this stupid situation...desperate times call for desperate measures...and NO that does not condone or justify doing what he did but he has been going through tough times recently. Our family only wishes now that we knew the extent of this so that we could help.

He is not a terrible person, he has just made a terrible terrible choice.

Alphabet - are you discounting the possibility of a setup?

Has he 'accepted' the charges, or 'acknowledged' the charges? Mai muan gun.

I'm not going to comment on that as that's for him to say his side of the story, obviously the way he was caught was a set up but it happens all the time and he was doing something wrong which he will now have to face up to.

Its hard to stand up for the guy if what he has 'supposedly' admitted to is true.

He was one of the nicest guys you would meet, had a hugely successful company and wife(maybe ex as it was often a love hate relationship) and 2 kids, those poor kids, especially the girl now old enough to understand.

Thank you for your kind words on Garry, and yes he and Mint are unfortunately no longer together.