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I am sure they will not be the last foreign government to issue such a stark warning in the coming days.

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i hope political types don't really believe the United States gives a right F__K who is in power in Thailand.

having a lot more experience with the differences in what the U.S. says publically and does privately than most in my previous carrer, i can absolutely assure you that the only real concern the U.S. government has about what happens in Thailand and Thai politics is that it be kept

• peaceful
• quiet
• out of the way
• and not bother the U.S. business and it's allies

Those and that anything the Thais do is of no concern to the U.S. just as long it doesn't give political problems for the administration in power in Washington.

If the Thais think anything else concerns the American government, they are truely being nieve.

As an American with some experience in the real thoughts of U.S. politicians and what they say publicly I know very well that the U.S has allies, but not friends.

And when that ally causes problems for the U.S. government. it is ti,r to throe that ally to go away and be quiet.

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Well it's been on BBC headline news every day since the courts decision but it should be said you can't really compare CNN and Fox with such an illustrious news station. There is so much going on in the world to-day of more importance than what is happening here; but all the same when a sovreign country starts descending into chaos and anarchy it would be considered imprudent for the worlds superpowers to ignore it as these things have a terribly nasty habit of spreading like wildfire -witness the north african crisis, the middle east etc. America will be monitoring the Thai situation very closely for this very reason. I would also suggest the comment made insinuating that America does not have friends is not correct; Great Britain and the USA have stood side by side as friends for many decades holding the same cultural values to protect democracy, defend the sick and the poor and uphold human rights. There are many of us whose parents fought along side each other in many wars and those bonds are not easily forgotten!

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The world, if one actually exists outside of LoS, is focused on the country.

TAT officials must be wetting themselves with excitement. Now all they need to do is find ' the world ' on a map.

Yes there is this Germany where the Mercedes come from and that Ameriga where that English language comes from, but I doubt there is much more outside Thailand and if than just uncivilized Barbarians.

Everyone must know that Thailand is the center of the world.

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Karma kick in the nuts

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From the full artical it sounds like this guy was a scumbag,who got his just desserts.

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I am just wondering now this has happened if she did try to flee the country,presumably she could not use a public airport,would she be allowed to leave by the authorties i mean,or would it be a private jet at a private airfeild,i suspect the latter,does any one have any ideas about this,i mean is she at present free to leave the country?

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I'm gonna miss her. She was the prettiest prime minister I've ever seen.

Time you took a ride on the 5 pm sky train around Siam

then you will see what real beautiful Thai ladies look like

and sadly to say, most have more commonsense

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Of course the Thais are entitled to their own rules, but the methods of enforcement really aren't the ticket at times. Why would the authorities want to unnecessarily piss off other ASEAN citizens like this?

Arrogance and a false sense of superiority?

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Of course the Thais are entitled to their own rules, but the methods of enforcement really aren't the ticket at times. Why would the authorities want to unnecessarily piss off other ASEAN citizens like this?

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Thaksin the peoples favorite

Suthep not the peoples favorite

so chew on that you yellow shirted losers who will never see power except by devious and questionable means

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The court did not need to hear the defences of the Ministers - a very reliable and honest witness said that it was a cabinet decision. They should be showing the former PM more respect than to question her evidence.

Loved that tweet yesterday when the Court summed up she had fingered the rest....can see why she was never allowed to speak for herself during her term as the criminals puppet.

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" Noppadon quoted Thaksin's comment that the legal complaint was directed only at Yingluck, so the court should not have broadened their consideration to the other Cabinet members. "

And that's why Thaksin isn't a lawyer, and Noppadon shouldn't be. The decision to transfer had to be approved by the cabinet. Therefore, they have to stand behind that decision. Yingluck in her testimony in fact said that she shared responsibility with the cabinet. The court agreed.

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He got off very lightly compared with those beaten by his thugs/hoons/animals

Any proof or are you trolling again?

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Me and wife leaving Bangkok in one hour.

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You are invited to elaborate as the clear implication of your post is that you know what, why, perhaps you know it all.

Then to state your certain and firm knowledge of Washington's "reasons and interest in keeping a certain group in Thailand in power." I agree with your statement as it is, so let's see if you and I might happen to agree on the substance and the specifics of it.

Finally to compare and contrast the two.

Otherwise you'd be talking up in the air and in the blue sky.

I know as I read this statement by Washington it once again makes clear the United States opposes a "People's Council" and an equally unelected elitist ammart National Assembly, an appointed prime minister in any way, shape or form. Which means the so-called "reforms" and the PDRC that would summarily and arbitrarily impose "reforms" on the general population have been rejected outright in Washington.

Election now, reforms to follow.

It's also obvious that as Washington supports a peaceful democratic election as the way forward, it naturally follows Prez Obama wants the Democrat Party here to engage in the election and to legitimately contest it. Washington is also telling the failed "people's sovereign" and raging lunatic Suthep to stand down and to walk home to stay home.

This is Washington's policy position and its components so no one should doubt that for a moment, and it always has been Prez Obama's position in respect of Thailand during this recent chaos and insurrection. And Washington is not alone in the region in advocating this policy. I dare say the policy is shared among the governments of India, Australia, Asean, Japan, South Korea, not to mention the EU collectively and individually by member state.

Oh yes Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos, Malaysia and Brunei really give 2 hoots. I think not, rather they would be rejoicing in the fact that Thailand being a supposedly developing nation is certainly Not. Especially Laos and Cambodia.

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All nine other governments of Asean issued a statement of support for democracy and peaceful resolution in Thailand and will do so again next week in Myanmar, whose turn it is to be Asean president for a year.

You can't detract from the fact no matter how hard you try, and you guys will try anything as you've repeatedly demonstrated over an extended period of time. Nine members of the CC said Yingluck had to go and who can deny the fact? Yet you deny facts you don't like or accept. The post above is conscious and deliberate tripe..

I don't think it has been read in context. Myanmar, Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam will be laughing silently at the current situation. Of course no one will come out and say so, but Thailand has long gloated as being the only ASEAN country never to be colonized, and has openly stated that its neighbours were victims of karma... Now does this make sense. Look at the surrounding ASEAN nations, apart from a little bickering, all doing well. Thailand, not so falling to its lowest level in 150 months economically speaking in two days. Again Thailand cannot seem to progress as a nation as even Myanmar has with an expected 5 million tourists next year. Unless austerity measures are put in place by a government of some sort Thailand is down the drain, oh and currently ranked last in English language ability in preparation for ASEAN and the AEC. Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam ahead? Oh my..I accept all the above and most of the diatribe that you posted, except for one thing, they will never admit the fact that Thailand on face value is becoming a failed state. In fact inwardly they will gloat on this fact as Thailand has long proclaimed itself the darling of Asia. Oh how karma has spoken and whilst your comment is well intentioned, just been shot down. My family and I have been born and bred in Asia in one way shape or form. There is a saying " forget the dragons smile, rather fear the fire from his tongue. You may have lived here for some time, but your point is null and void. Do you really believe what comes out of ASEANS tongue, or do they silently gloat like the Burmese over the sacking of an ancient capital 300 years ago? Time for a re-think of your post. It has just been smoked... Next!

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You got to say your piece and you got to express yourself in the compulsively unpleasant ways that by nature so please you and your crowd around here, so I'm confident you are happy, proud, very Asian self-satisfied. Just don't indulge yourself too much because I'd be confident also you know the Thai meaning of smoking someone, a guy, which is what you said you did to me tonight guy. So I want you to know tonight with you has already been an unforgettable experience.

Towards the end of 2010 Thais I've known intimately for many years started saying openly to me that Thailand on its trajectory was going to end up "kaput." Many of the Thais I've known longest and the best say this. I asked them if the former LOS can change its trajectory and, if so, how and in what ways. My intimate Thai friends looked at me and blinked. They still blink. They still only blink but with a greater pain in their eyes than before.

I tell them that if that's their attitude, then they are suicidal. They concede my point and concur. Thailand will go kaput and Thailand is well into the process of becoming kaput. I ask what that means and they shrug. They are genuine. You should know all of this so I don't know why you might be holding back. Perhaps its not discussable to you and your Asian lineage / generations. Can you face it?

The many Burmese attacks and sieges against the ancient capital of Sukhothai, something like 24 or 26 or so over a few hundred years, provide insight into the developments of recent years and to the determinant trend that is mutating Thailand into a failing state, eventually before long to become a failed state. The Thais at Sukhothai laid back and took it. They figured they could wait out to endure against the Burmese aggressors. Thais succeeded up to a point - extraordinarily so - but were in fact suicidal so they were eventually overcome by a more determined foe. And yes the Burmese still smirk about it and my Thai friends still wince. The closer one gets to the Burmese border the more the Thais grimace about it.

Thais don't know how to win. So they win by losing. They did it against the Burmese twice in the second millennium from Sukhothai to Ayutthaya and then on to Bangkok. As a point of opposite perspective, Washington DC and Bangkok were founded at the same time in history. Recall Suthep vowed to eject the Shinawatras from Thailand if it takes him to his death to do it, which we know is the Thai way to say, well, to the death. Cheerful, these people.

The Thais will fight the current and ongoing fight until the other guy loses. Trouble is, Thais don't know how to actually win. Indeed, neither side is winning. The bottom line is that neither side will win for losing so each side will lose. Both sides are cooked - there isn't a winner here. Thais are poor to articulate this in any way, shape or form. They just sense it in their bones.

Kaput.

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They did not lie about some thing that there job hinged on. Big difference.

Nixon did and he too got found out and went By By.

Why do you think Samak should have been allowed to lie about some thing that the whole nation

knew about and his job hinged on it?

Clinton did, Keating did, Bush did, Blair did , Putin has, shall I mention more. Next.

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You have not answered my question about some thing their job hinged on.

Christ why don't you go back to George Washington and Henry the first.

They all lied. That is not the question.

The question is did he or did he not receive money for working on a non governmental job which is strictly prohibited. He like Nixon was found out and unlike Nixon was to stupid to resign he continued in the lie. What Question that every one knew the answer to did these other people lie to when asked? Clinton even admitted he had a BJ or two or three or more and came close to loosing his job. But he did admit it.

all be it after lying several times. Case closed. Next

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@Cricketnut

You said:

come on Blues punk, what politician in any society has not lied? Bill Clinton, Tony Blair, Kevin Rudd, Putin, Thatcher, John Howard, Paul Keating, George Bush Snr and Jnr? If you guys want to mince words let's go for it as I'm on neither side really, my main goal is to get people to think and for the first time ever mate, I'm calling you on this post. Re-think it and reply with common sense, as you do with 99percent of your other posts, sorry can't let this one go.

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Me:

As far as I'm concerned any politician caught up in corruption should be punished. None of those politicians you mention are ones I would vote for, at least four of them are guilty of war crimes in my view. Put them on trial. I won't shed a tear if they go down. Cheers for your reply Blues

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The point about Samak is that he was PM and as PM you are expected to concentrate all your efforts on one job, that of running the country. It's not really asking too much I don't think. Samak knew about this, but nonetheless decided to continue with his job on the side, and then tried to fudge the facts when he was summoned to court, by lying under oath about payments made to him. A PM lying under oath, in any functioning democracy, would be out on their ear immediately, and unlike Samak, they would not simply be able to restand as PM the next day, as Samak could have done had the puppet master not decided he would prefer someone else running the country on his behalf.

But of course, none of that ever gets mentioned by the red brigade, who only ever state "sacked for being on a cooking show", leaving out all the other details.

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Just like Bill Clinton, Tony Blair, George Bush and numerous others. What a post that was. Smoked, next please.

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What? Who of those and "numerous others" were convicted of lying in court whilst running the country, and were allowed to go on running the country in spite of their conviction?

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Does it really matter! A cooking show for crying out loud.

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Yes it was stupid on both sides if it was just about the show or the amount. However he lied about it, god knows why and he got caught out. If he was prepared to cut corners and lie to pocket petty amounts of money he was clearly unfit for the office he held.

come on Blues punk, what politician in any society has not lied? Bill Clinton, Tony Blair, Kevin Rudd, Putin, Thatcher, John Howard, Paul Keating, George Bush Snr and Jnr? If you guys want to mince words let's go for it as I'm on neither side really, my main goal is to get people to think and for the first time ever mate, I'm calling you on this post. Re-think it and reply with common sense, as you do with 99percent of your other posts, sorry can't let this one go.

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They did not lie about some thing that there job hinged on. Big difference.

Nixon did and he too got found out and went By By.

Why do you think Samak should have been allowed to lie about some thing that the whole nation

knew about and his job hinged on it?

Clinton did, Keating did, Bush did, Blair did , Putin has, shall I mention more. Next.

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Does it really matter! A cooking show for crying out loud.

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Yes it was stupid on both sides if it was just about the show or the amount. However he lied about it, god knows why and he got caught out. If he was prepared to cut corners and lie to pocket petty amounts of money he was clearly unfit for the office he held.

come on Blues punk, what politician in any society has not lied? Bill Clinton, Tony Blair, Kevin Rudd, Putin, Thatcher, John Howard, Paul Keating, George Bush Snr and Jnr? If you guys want to mince words let's go for it as I'm on neither side really, my main goal is to get people to think and for the first time ever mate, I'm calling you on this post. Re-think it and reply with common sense, as you do with 99percent of your other posts, sorry can't let this one go.

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They did not lie about some thing that there job hinged on. Big difference.

Nixon did and he too got found out and went By By.

Why do you think Samak should have been allowed to lie about some thing that the whole nation

knew about and his job hinged on it?

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so whats new with this scheming bunch of s***tbags that will stoop to any new low to remove a democratically elected PM

You really don,t have a clue about what is going on here

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The point about Samak is that he was PM and as PM you are expected to concentrate all your efforts on one job, that of running the country. It's not really asking too much I don't think. Samak knew about this, but nonetheless decided to continue with his job on the side, and then tried to fudge the facts when he was summoned to court, by lying under oath about payments made to him. A PM lying under oath, in any functioning democracy, would be out on their ear immediately, and unlike Samak, they would not simply be able to restand as PM the next day, as Samak could have done had the puppet master not decided he would prefer someone else running the country on his behalf.

But of course, none of that ever gets mentioned by the red brigade, who only ever state "sacked for being on a cooking show", leaving out all the other details.

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remove then Prime Minister Samak Sundhornvej from office because of his appearance on a cooking show.

How in Hades...is this grounds for removal from office...was he cooking up corruption?

Sounds like this bunch of Judicial dictators...are making things up as they go along...

He lied about receiving it either under oath or in court, can't remember which.

Does it really matter! A cooking show for crying out loud.

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Yes it was stupid on both sides if it was just about the show or the amount. However he lied about it, god knows why and he got caught out. If he was prepared to cut corners and lie to pocket petty amounts of money he was clearly unfit for the office he held.

His unsuitably amply demonstrated by the half dozen other criminal cases he was mired in, with two of them being convictions that he had under appeal.

If he hadn't delayed them all and then croaked, there was the very real possibility he'd have been in prison today.

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remove then Prime Minister Samak Sundhornvej from office because of his appearance on a cooking show.

How in Hades...is this grounds for removal from office...was he cooking up corruption?

Sounds like this bunch of Judicial dictators...are making things up as they go along...

He lied about receiving it either under oath or in court, can't remember which.

Does it really matter! A cooking show for crying out loud.

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Yes it was stupid on both sides if it was just about the show or the amount. However he lied about it, god knows why and he got caught out. If he was prepared to cut corners and lie to pocket petty amounts of money he was clearly unfit for the office he held.

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