Eliot Rosewater

In my opinion there is no such thing as a probation period. It is just an excuse for the school to delay doing any paperwork on your behalf. Plus, if they don't like you; they can fire you with no consequence.

A master degree is of little consequence unless it is in education.

A teaching qualification from your home country is what is required. (Although I have seen Canadians with Australian certification etc.)

did they have a double quarter pounder with cheese? still havent seen one of those since I left the homeland.

carl's jr makes up for it however. More expensive yes, better , hell yes IMO.

I had one of those samurai pork thingys by mistake once - never again.

Quarter pounders were discontinued years ago, which was a shame because they were one of my favourites too. The nearest you can get to that now is a double cheese burger.

They use the metric system here, so if they had it, it would be called the Royale with cheese.

Geez, haven't you seen pulp fiction?

Getting hungry already!

Question for John; nothing goes better with BBQ than a cold frosty beverage; will you be serving beer (preferably selections from Beervana)?

Many men I've shaken hands with here also have soft little baby girl hands. Doubt they have ever held a hammer or changed a tire......

I must agree with some of the previous replies that there are a lot of extended (sex) tourists, drunks, derelicts and people with other odd reasons to be in Thailand and teaching seems to be the job of choice.

I have kids on and international and a bi-lingual school and several incidents over the past few years including two involving my kids make it very clear that these schools have a hard time sifting out the unwanted elements.

So yes, I can understand that the questions go far and for me they couldn't go far enough. Many people have reasons to be in Thailand and that not always makes them the people you want to be involved with the education of your kids.

Exactly.

So much for my bitterness. From the teachers I've met and worked with, Id say 60% are unfit to be anywhere near children. So its 35% in Intl schools?

I used to think teachers were not such a bad lot, until I taught a few years. Drinking problems topped everything by numbers butmy biggest concern was with creepers. Next to this were the broke-ass teachers scrounging money and the sloppy dressed and disheveled. Facial hair. Of course non of these people had any interest in being at the school a second longer than they could squeeze out of, despite school policy. Activities, forget it. My impression the vast amount of teachers was unsuprisingly is - its just a crappy job and Ill do the minimum, get paid and go home. Somehow I see in this equation a distinct lack of integrity, honesty.

Filipinos and married men should be teaching all the kids. Being married doesn't solve the drunk aspect, but my hunch is in metro areas would greatly decrease. Would solve the creeper issue by and large.

Even background checks are useless. Persons I have been most disgusted by could pass a check.

Thailand really needs to sort out the creepers, even more than the drunks. Drunks just waste kids time, creepers damage for life.

I think where you have been working and who you work with says a lot about you. Clearly you are not qualified to teach in a real school.

There are those of us who work at real schools here in TH where teachers make over 80K US per year on average. We don't have anything even close to the problems you describe.

Ok simple question for you? What does your neighbor call you? A FARANG! No matter how you might try and spin it....you and every other white, non-thai person is a FARANG!

I know who I am and where I'm from. I may have to accept the word thrown around in Thai circles, but to hear a bunch of ex pats refer to themselves as such is just sad.

According to your logic, black people should just call themselves the N word because their neighbors call them that. Do you not realize just how ridiculous that is?

A Farang with Thai citizenship is an exception not the norm, typically it is considered the Farang does not have citizenship so pull your head in and stop being an A-Hole.

but if you want to play the pedant game Farangs who have work permits also are not required to have a residence letter in their possession.

I don't think I'm being an "A-hole" by pointing out how ridiculous using the term "faring" in this instance is.

I'm pretty sure the same rules would apply to an Indian, African, or someone from another E. or S.E. Asian country.

Using the term like that just highlights the stupidity of some people. It is completely unnecessary.

Dude really do you have to be so petty? You dont have a dog in this fight, keeping your opinions and comments to yourself would be better.

I believe I have as much of a right to post and express my opinions as you do.

How's this for a topic? Does a black have to show proof of residency to sell a vehicle in Thailand?

You don't think people would be calling the person who asked that a fool? It is the same thing and I will call it out wherever I see it. If you don't like it, I suggest you find another forum.

Mr Rosewater, Ill make sure I get right on this. But only after you return your home country passport to its rightful owner. You've been assimilated into the Thai way of thinking. Either way, you are still a white man in a little brown man's world. Hahahahah

I believe the point of this forum is to give the OP ACCURATE advice. Saying a "farang" needs this paper or that is not ACCURATE information, as mentioned a "farang" can be a Thai national (and there are more out there than many of you realize, I currently know two, and in my experience here have known two others) and a non-Thai national can also be non-"farang"

The ACCURATE answer would be; a foreigner or non-Thai national needs this paper or that etc.

Why can some of you just NOT accept that this is true? I implore you to use another racial term such as "does a black need this form" or "does a hispanic need this form," go back to your home country and ask one of your countrymen this and see what kind of reaction you get?

This forum is mainly for expats and there is just no legitimate excuse to use that word in this context. Geez........it just amazes me that you can not see how silly you sound......

A Farang with Thai citizenship is an exception not the norm, typically it is considered the Farang does not have citizenship so pull your head in and stop being an A-Hole.

but if you want to play the pedant game Farangs who have work permits also are not required to have a residence letter in their possession.

I don't think I'm being an "A-hole" by pointing out how ridiculous using the term "faring" in this instance is.

I'm pretty sure the same rules would apply to an Indian, African, or someone from another E. or S.E. Asian country.

Using the term like that just highlights the stupidity of some people. It is completely unnecessary.

Dude really do you have to be so petty? You dont have a dog in this fight, keeping your opinions and comments to yourself would be better.

I believe I have as much of a right to post and express my opinions as you do.

How's this for a topic? Does a black have to show proof of residency to sell a vehicle in Thailand?

You don't think people would be calling the person who asked that a fool? It is the same thing and I will call it out wherever I see it. If you don't like it, I suggest you find another forum.

A 'Letter of Residence' for a farang used to cost 300 baht at Phuket Immigration - but a spokesmen for that office has indicated they are now free ( and always should have been)

Oh no , I used the word 'farang' !

I hope Eliot doesnt have a little hissy fit! 555

No hissy fit; just shows that you don't understand what the word actually means

Exceptions or no; "farangs" CAN be Thai citizens and foreigners CAN be "non-farang" so very silly and ignorant choice if word in this scenario:)

What an obnoxious person we have posting here !!! Must be bored sitting at home and picking holes wherever he can. Quite simply deduced by the lack of any help or comment regarding the op.

I recently purchased a m/cycle and had to obtain a cert from immigration. When I renewed my d/licence I had to obtain one for m/c and one more for the car.

I am a ferang, and proud of it. What are you?

Edit ... I did p/x a car about 3 years ago and the dealer did everything without the need for an immigration cert. perhaps money talks it's own language.

"I am a ferang, and proud of it"

No more needs to be said here, perhaps you can take your quote, write it on a Hallmark card and give it to your mommy

A 'Letter of Residence' for a farang used to cost 300 baht at Phuket Immigration - but a spokesmen for that office has indicated they are now free ( and always should have been)

Oh no , I used the word 'farang' !

I hope Eliot doesnt have a little hissy fit! 555

No hissy fit; just shows that you don't understand what the word actually means

Exceptions or no; "farangs" CAN be Thai citizens and foreigners CAN be "non-farang" so very silly and ignorant choice if word in this scenario:)

Farang (Thai: ฝรั่ง [faràŋ]) is a generic Thai word for someone of European ancestry, no matter where they may come from. The Royal Institute Dictionary 1999, the official dictionary of Thai words, defines the word as "a person of white race".

Who cares? some guys are so childish with their nit-picking... the 'farang' debate can be discussed in one of the many repetitive 'farang' topics - Or start the same 'farang' topic for the hundredth time....

This thread is about whether or not an Affirmation of Residence is required to sell a vehicle.

Back on Topic:

I sold a car in November and didn't require the Affirmation of Residence. It was my understanding that only the buyer, if a foreigner, is required to show either his Affirmation of Residence, Work Permit or house book.

That said: the DLT may have simply overlooked that I had not presented the Affirmation of Residence document - As someone mentioned, its always a bit of a lottery.

" This thread is about whether or not an Affirmation of Residence is required to sell a vehicle."

Incorrect; the tread is about " whether or not an Affirmation of Residence is required to sell a vehicle" [for a farang] as CLEARLY stated in the OP. (go back and have a read if you disagree)

However, due to ignorance, and what we ALL know is....what he means is... for a "NON-THAI" citizen

So stop trying to make this about me being offended by the use of the word "farang," because it has nothing to do with that. The use of the word in this context is just plain WRONG because its not what the OP really wants to know. I think we can all agree he doesn't really think there is a separate set of rules for people with white skin vs. a non-Thai person of Asian origin from Singapore

A 'Letter of Residence' for a farang used to cost 300 baht at Phuket Immigration - but a spokesmen for that office has indicated they are now free ( and always should have been)

Oh no , I used the word 'farang' !

I hope Eliot doesnt have a little hissy fit! 555

No hissy fit; just shows that you don't understand what the word actually means

Exceptions or no; "farangs" CAN be Thai citizens and foreigners CAN be "non-farang" so very silly and ignorant choice if word in this scenario:)

A number of posts have been removed, along with some quoted replies, for trolling (And even more were very very close to being removed for trolling as well).

If you're going to reply, please try to assist the OP, rather than just trying to be the biggest eTroll.

In response to the OP's post:

Thailand has very strict discrimination laws, however they're not enforced, as a result, they are allowed to discriminate on just about anything.

i.e. A couple of years ago, one of my Thai friends had her last shot at applying for a bank. Her last shot, because she was already 25, and she had to be 25 or under (and female), with an appropriate degree, in order to even be considered for an entry level position (bank teller).

Ladyboys are likewise often discriminated against, just recently there was a story in the newspaper about a quite famous Ladyboy who, accompanied by 2 foreign friends, was refused entry to a bar when they checked her ID, because she was a ladyboy.

Also according to my wife, a Thai interviewer will often ask if you're pregnant in an interview (Or intend on becoming pregnant in the near future), even to Thai people, and if you reply yes, they'll usually refuse your application (As if you're pregnant, then they're legally required to give you some kind of maternity leave or similar).

From the school's perspective, I can completely understand why they'd ask all of these types of questions, primarily because they can, but also because it's beneficial for them to know as much information about applicants as possible. With foreign teachers, particularly female teachers, they'd likely be worried about you leaving the school in the middle of the term, as there is quite a high turnover of foreign teachers.

Also as well, the questions would likely help them to get to know you on a more personal level, so that they can understand you a little more. These types of questions aren't rude in Thailand, sometimes considered a little prying, but Thai people will often just ask what they want to know, and if it's a foreigner, then sometimes they'll ask, even if they know that Thai people might find it a little bit rude.

Thai culture is very different to Western culture, and so we need to be quite tolerant of some of the aspects which we might find offensive, since even if it might seem offensive or similar, it's not necessarily intended to be, rather they just don't understand Western culture (Or perhaps do, but forget and just stick with what's natural to them).

"Thai people will often just ask what they want to know, and if it's a foreigner, then sometimes they'll ask, even if they know that Thai people might find it a little bit rude"

"we need to be quite tolerant of some of the aspects which we might find offensive, since even if it might seem offensive or similar, it's not necessarily intended to be, rather they just don't understand Western culture (Or perhaps do, but forget and just stick with what's natural to them)."

Is it just me or does anyone else find these statements contradictory?

Seems he is saying that a Thai can act in a way towards a Westerner that the Westerner AND Thai people would find rude; however, we as Westerners must act in a way to NEVER seem rude in any way.

Just did this yesterday in Korat. Seller, Farang, had to have immigration resident letter. Having said that, must also say that seller signed a "power of attorney", and did not show up in person. Last year I bought a motorcycle in Nong Khai. Seller Farang went with me to office and did not need letter, only passport. I needed letter from immigration.

I know of two "farangs" who have Thai citizenship and do not need any such letter to sell their vehicles

Seems like you and the op are full of bs. Perhaps you mean "non-Thai nationals need the letter???

A Farang with Thai citizenship is an exception not the norm, typically it is considered the Farang does not have citizenship so pull your head in and stop being an A-Hole.

but if you want to play the pedant game Farangs who have work permits also are not required to have a residence letter in their possession.

I don't think I'm being an "A-hole" by pointing out how ridiculous using the term "faring" in this instance is.

I'm pretty sure the same rules would apply to an Indian, African, or someone from another E. or S.E. Asian country.

Using the term like that just highlights the stupidity of some people. It is completely unnecessary.

Just did this yesterday in Korat. Seller, Farang, had to have immigration resident letter. Having said that, must also say that seller signed a "power of attorney", and did not show up in person. Last year I bought a motorcycle in Nong Khai. Seller Farang went with me to office and did not need letter, only passport. I needed letter from immigration.

Seems like you and the op are full of bs. Perhaps you mean "non-Thai nationals need the letter???

Consider it the tip.

Is it a tip for the service staff or does the owner/manager pocket it?

If it is for the service staff; have they done a job good enough to earn their 10%? If not, is that fair that you are "forced" to give a tip? Somewhat defeats the "purpose" of a tip, doesn't it?

Ordering National parks to ensure they charge 4 x the price for tourists as they do for Thais probably isn't the best start?

They most certainly do not charge foreign tourists 4x more.

If you had read the latest article, the junta has ordered national parks to charge 10x more.

Should also raise awareness about the cruelty of Horseback riding and other equestrian sports. Mind you - more horses than elephants die from humans riding on them.

There will always be people who mistreat animals; unfortunately

But a horse and rider can share a unique bond and deep friendship

So when a 5 star hotel serve pad thai at 400 baht a plate they are breaking some law as well? Food outlets charge what the market can bear, shouldn't need government to interfere unless there is hoarding and profiteering.

You haven't been in Thailand very long have you? It all seems to have gone over your head.

At the university where I teach we are evaluated by the students at the end of every semester.

Our contract renewal depends on us getting good evaluations.

Some of the questions are something like this:

Is the teacher late? (How can they answer that when more than 50% of them are always late?)

Does the teacher use Facebook, Line and You tube in his teaching?

Are the rooms well equipped? (yes that also influences our evaluation.)

Other criteria:

Do we attend staff meetings, lectures, merit making outings?

Do we speak Thai or are learning to speak Thai?

Oh my actual interview went something like this.

Do you have Thai girlfriend? (I think 3 teachers asked me that during the interview)

Do you like Thai food?

There was nothing (and I mean nothing!) about my teaching qualifications or experience.

So what is the real measure of a good teacher?

Just fit in and make the Thai teachers and students happy.

Yes, you are right. And it's funny; I am constantly reading articles about how the Thai education system is a complete failure and needs reform etc.

I started out in a Thai school; loved teaching but was completely disgusted with all of the things I experienced (much of it mentioned on this thread).

I wound up getting certified in my home country and now work in the international school arena.

I can assure you; qualified or not; I would not hire anyone who has worked at a Thai school too long. Anyone who would put up with that kind of garbage and purposely kowtow to attitudes and policies which run contrary to the whole purpose of education has no place in a real school.

In Ao Nang, going slow on my Harley, a little farang kid darted out in front of a parked tuk-tuk. I slammed on the front and rear brakes to avoid the kid. Fell over on my right side with my right foot still on the foot brake. The kid was not hit, then his mother came out to grab him; dumb c**t. My bike was not scratched, it landed on top of me. I thought I had knocked the wind out, I had had worse hits in gridiron and martial arts. However, later that night I could not sleep and went to a clinic for x-rays. They told me I had bruised ribs and prescribed painkillers, anti-inflamatories, and muscle relaxers. The next day, I took a cab back to my home and my son rode my bike back. I suffered sleepless nights and immobile days, but multitudes of painkillers made the days go by. One morning about three weeks later, I could not breathe. I went to the hospital, they x-rayed my chest and discovered I had five broken ribs and had a collapsed lung. I was rushed into surgery to drain five liters of blood and fluid from my right lung cavity. Further tests and x-rays showed I had several blood clots in and around the lung cavity. I was rushed back into surgery for a thoracic cleaning, four hours later with a lovely eleven inch scar where they separated my rib cage to cleanse the cavity of clots, I was back to my private room. Nine days from entry to discharge--the thoracic surgeon had estimated three weeks recovery--and I was back on my bike; albeit not for a long ride. I was 68 at the time. It wasn't my first accident, and it probably won't be my last.

You have confirmed my thoughts about people who ride hardlys and their attitude towards women

Good thing the kid wasn't black or I'm sure plenty of racist drivel would have been added to your post

I love women, but that poor kid's mother just let him run into traffic; and my Harley has nothing to do with her stupidity. Now that I know how you spout unfounded opinions, from now on, no matter what you say, I will just consider the source and ignore you.

Alright, maybe that was an unfair shot, apologies

You have confirmed my thoughts about people who ride hardlys and their attitude towards women

Good thing the kid wasn't black or I'm sure plenty of racist drivel would have been added to your post

Why do you assume the shit for brains that ran into the road wasn't black?

does race have to do with anything in this context?

Projection much?

In Ao Nang, going slow on my Harley, a little farang kid darted out in front of a parked tuk-tuk. I slammed on the front and rear brakes to avoid the kid. Fell over on my right side with my right foot still on the foot brake. The kid was not hit, then his mother came out to grab him; dumb c**t. My bike was not scratched, it landed on top of me. I thought I had knocked the wind out, I had had worse hits in gridiron and martial arts. However, later that night I could not sleep and went to a clinic for x-rays. They told me I had bruised ribs and prescribed painkillers, anti-inflamatories, and muscle relaxers. The next day, I took a cab back to my home and my son rode my bike back. I suffered sleepless nights and immobile days, but multitudes of painkillers made the days go by. One morning about three weeks later, I could not breathe. I went to the hospital, they x-rayed my chest and discovered I had five broken ribs and had a collapsed lung. I was rushed into surgery to drain five liters of blood and fluid from my right lung cavity. Further tests and x-rays showed I had several blood clots in and around the lung cavity. I was rushed back into surgery for a thoracic cleaning, four hours later with a lovely eleven inch scar where they separated my rib cage to cleanse the cavity of clots, I was back to my private room. Nine days from entry to discharge--the thoracic surgeon had estimated three weeks recovery--and I was back on my bike; albeit not for a long ride. I was 68 at the time. It wasn't my first accident, and it probably won't be my last.

You have confirmed my thoughts about people who ride hardlys and their attitude towards women

Good thing the kid wasn't black or I'm sure plenty of racist drivel would have been added to your post