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In some cases the fact that the salad was mixed with seafood is enough to cause a re action.More to the point that is Thailand never accept any responsibility for stuff ups.
I been to the Land of smiles more times that I care to remember and it is always the same story when things do not go right for the client.
I have no idea why they have this attitude but does not seem to matter what the issue is it is never their fault.
Not long ago while in Pattaya I gave a cleaning lady 100 Baht tip and a day later I was checking out and she accused me of taking a mineral water from the mini bar.I was about to give her another 100 baht but she was carrying on like a pork chop.
I refused to pay as I never use any mini bar and will never stay that that hotel again.
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15 hours ago, EVENKEEL said:
Always amazed at foreigners looking to save a baht, I always have a driver lined up, much nicer after a long flight.
i know the richest man in Bangkok and he only uses buses. I have used both but when Mr T. Driver is not there it is a little nerve racking.Most cases I am arriving late at night so I started to book a hotel near the airport with pick ups and drop off and next morning I get the bus to Pattaya.
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If they want tourist number to increase rapidly they need to scrap these stupid rules.I booked some weeks ago and after reading the requirements I cancelled the following day.
The requirements were not very hard but are time consuming and waste of money with transfers and staying in certain hotels only to move next day to your preferred hotel.I have a black earth card which is currently useless as we still need a separate policy for Covid.
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I had booked flights for May but when my insurance company said they do not cover for Covid and would need a separate insurance policy I decided to cancel as there are to many obstacles for me to enjoy the holiday.
As soon as Thailand and other countries take a sensible approach to this now flu people like myself will not travel. As I am a fit 70 year old it counts for nothing when it comes to the Covid insurance as my policy is over double than my partner who is 44.
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Well that is this weeks news and next week he will tell you something different.No tourist for 2 years and typical Thailand they need to get that revenue back all at once which has been lost.
It has been a common joke when tourist numbers are down some hotels charge more to make up for the lack of numbers.As I have stated before my Dental treatment is on going and when I have finished with the Dental there will be no desire to go back.
There are many places around Asia and the World which offer good value for your money, Thailand has become complacent and the land of smiles is only if you are throwing money around in a bar or hotel lobby receptionist or whatever you give tips too. Small tips are now frond upon and the 20 baht tip to the fat slob at the Nana Hotel to wheel your bag to your room is now 100 baht. It was some years ago when I last stayed there and the last for that matter.
Still every day planes arrive full of desperate men looking for love and every day plane loads of poor men leave heartbroken.
The Issan university has taught these nice girls how to extract that last Dollar in your pocket. Honestly what is 300 baht arrival tax in the scheme of things. I personally think the 300 baht should be increased to around 700 baht and that will include the book "Private Dancer" a must read for the first timer.
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Policies on run same as Australia hence no confidence in anybody in Government positions. Probably would be easy for these clowns to keep their mouths shut and make statements when they have all the facts.
Most cases in Australia seem to be mild like flues and double vaccinated are still catching the virus. Makes we wonder is the virus fading out or is the vaccination working?
I am double vaccinated only because I want to travel and knew that would be impossible without the vaccine.I am seeing people with double vaccine plus a booster still catching the virus.
The fact of the matter it does not matter if the fool is from Thailand or Timbucktoo they have no idea what to do.
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Sad state of affairs in what should have been defused early in the night.Judging by the photos the rooms are in a cheap part of town and Farangs on a low budget.as I was not there I cannot pass judgement but I would not have been happy listening to the music all night long and more so if I had to go to work next day which is the case for the locals.
We do not realise how cheap life is in some countries and pissing of a local over some stupid issue can result in exactly what happened.We have all been guilty over some stupid issue like a taxi ripping us off from the airport, a shop owner not giving the correct change. Sometimes it is best to suck it up and say sorry and move on.
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They want package tours of Chinese Indian Vietnamese and Koreans .As I have said before they do not want Franags on pensions hanging around bars as the Government figure they do not spend enough money and are more trouble than they are worth.
The program is to get rid of those bars which we farangs like but package tours find offensive.Every time I go back to Thailand I can see many changes taking place.Expensive Condos for sale, walking Street been upgraded well probably removed.
It is a struggle to find a nice Hotel these days without the herds of package tours demolishing the breakfast bar before you come down for breakfast.
When you make it for breakfast all you see is a war zone. I might add in most cases they are low class tours paid by companies for their workers.The last hotel I stayed while in Pattaya and I won't embarrass the place as the staff were very nice 4 star plus was experiencing the same fate with Indians eating breakfast while walking around and flicking the rice from the hands to the floor.
As I have Dental treatments happening but on completion on such work I will not be returning to the Land Of Smiles.
Think of the good memories and look elsewhere for your holidays.Not sure where that may be Vietnam?
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I use to often frequent a place at soi 22 Bei Otto which was good Not cheap but lunch menu ok.Many good restaurants in Bangkok but always changing so hard to recommend.
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I personal think tourist number were dropping before the Covid. I(t was the Chinese market that was propping it up and the Government did not really care about us Farangs. The Government made it were clear that the cheap Charlie Farang was not really welcomed in Thailand.
Frankly I do not blame the Government for trying to lift the tone of the place but not all Farangs are Cheap Charlies.Price have been going up at a great rate of knots weather it was hotel rooms, food, tours . The retirement visa is constantly changing the rules and making it difficult for a majority of the retirees living there.
A few years I worked it out it is cheaper living in Europe and my Thailand trips had become shorter and shorter. The main reason for my recent visits was my nice Dentist but their prices are hardly that cheap these days.It it was not that my treatment is half complete I very doubt I would bother to come back.
It is no longer the Land Of Smiles well sorry it is as long as you keep throwing money around.Giving the Porter 20 baht to wheel your bag to your room or the house maid 20 baht as a tip is now an insult.
last year a friend of mind left Pattaya for various reason and gave all is furniture to a young lady for free.He called her prior to leaving but she was sad. Why was she sad? Because he did not give her money for taxi to remove furniture.
Now I think it will be hard to turn around their tourist issues because the Government is going down the bulk Chinese and Indian tours who do spend money in different ways but most pre pay before arriving. Looks good on paper but the local store makes no money.
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Same s you marry the girl be prepared to support the family which wears thin over time because you will end up in poverty yourself.Food rubbish,dangerous as life is cheap.At first you feel a friendly environment but like Thailand it is all fake.Money you have money they want both countries the same.You can kid yourself how friendly the people are but if you have a brain you will work it out No money no honey remember that saying because it is 100% spot on. I tried both and from experience found both sneaky.slimmy.cheats,dishonest and the smiles fake.People tell you all this but you need to experience for yourself.
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Everything is expensive in Thailand that is why I live in Australia.I have written blogs on this topic before.In Thailand wine is crazy prices and Western food at Supermarkets is far more expensive.Local street food is cheapb50/100 baht beer at supermarket around 50 baht i think same as take away prices as Dan Murphy.So what has Thailand got to offer for retirees?
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I was a regular visitor for 10 years spending 2 months at a time there so was considering retirement there.As time moved on I realised what did this country have to offer? Cost of living is to high if you like nice red wine and western foods. For the matter beer at the bars has been creaping up and lots of Farang now sit at the front of a 7 /11 store drinking.If you want accommodation of reasonable standard you need $1000 per month. Last trip in Pattaya which was about 12 months ago I did some serious looking in Pattaya and the 5000 -7000 baht apartment is very poor.
I have been spending more time in Europe prior to Covid and found Italy Spain Portugal more desirable places to live. Cost of living would be on part to Thailand.
If you want to be a bar fly then Angeles City is the place for you but the visa issue is a nightmare,My advise to go and visit these countries and see if it is what you are really looking for as the fun visiting bars each night eventually changes, old friends stop coming to Thailand, the stuffed knee, hip, needs replacement, and you need to go home for those procedures.
I was coming to Thailand having dental treatment but not really worth it now as Dentists in Australia are only a fraction more. I will continue to finish my Dental treatment in Pattaya but thinking seriously of having the remaining work done here.
I will still be a visitor of Thailand but do not see it as a long term retirement destination.
I could write books on the subject matter. Everybody tells you how bad Australia is but everybody runs back to the place to spend 2 years so they can collect their pensions and have free hospital treatments. I worked and paid taxes? Really.
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At this stage we need flights to Thailand at reasonable prices.Airlines are not stupid and will resume when it is safe.Sad to say it will not happen if tourist need to spend 2 weeks in quarantined on arrival.I await for next weeks BUZZWORD.
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Hope i can buy 3or 4 bars there I have a million dollars to spend and should be able to convert 2 million in the near future.I know many farangs have lost money with bars but i know better. I always say a new flight of idiots arrive every day with dreams and another flight is leaving with dreams shattered. You can tell these idiots a million times but the brain drops out in the trash bucket as soon as they are cleared from immigration.
Some people want to buy a job or buy a job for their new love one. Little do they know about running a business as they have never run one before. Have you tried to explain cash flow, money for new stock to a farming girl?For that matter does the idiot who buys the bar have any idea?
I have done many stupid things in my life but buying a bar never entered in the equation.
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The dumb population do not realise the importance in learning English.Rich Thais send their children to Western Countries then they get the well paying jobs.Control the people by not educating them is a common weapon used for centuries all over the world.
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Very sad state of affairs. but the real issue right now there are no affordable flights to Thailand or anywhere for that matter.Prior to Covid I was saying that Pattaya was dead and becoming very expensive. Now is the time for a reality check and for tourist operators to become serious about pricing.For the last few years I found it cheaper to travel to Europe and as it may be hard to believe I can stay in Hotels in Sweden, Norway Finland for around $130 a night Australian and in the Baltics for $50-$60 a night. Eastern Europe is around $60 a night which include breakfast. The last few years you can find nice hotel in Pattaya during the off season for around the $50-$60 a night which include breakfast which is catering for Indians or Chinese. These same hotels rates increase to $100-$140 around Christmas time.It is sad to see foreigners drinking in slop houses as the bars have become to expensive.
i know the big push as being for Chinese and Indian tourists as the powers to be feel they are better value.Somehow I very much doubt it and I stand to be corrected. They come for a 3-4 days on these packages probably do a few tours and go leaving the poor house keeper cleaning up all the rubbish that has been left behind.i have stayed in hotels which just cater for the Chinese Vietnam and Indian tours and I have seen the disaster.Breakfast in the mornings is like a bomb and just exploded in the Restaurants.
If that is what the Thai Tourist Department wants then Walking Street and many other areas in pattaya should close the door for good.
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i am sure the kickbacks from bar owners have vanished since this Covid causing cash flow problems. Also the poor farangs are not there riding motor bikes and getting stopped for any reason you care to think off has gone. Can you imagine how much revenue that generates to the police force which has now gone.The locals cannot afford or will not pay for these stupid fines which where dished up to us for years.
When the borders open up why not incorporate the vax tax with the handout tax and that should solve the shortfall for police officers in debt.It could be called the VTHT.
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Tourism is doomed so introducing another 300 baht will do nothing to encourage or discourage numbers.Money lost to Covid is gone you cannot get that back and as soon as tourism get that in their head the better.
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What boring news does anybody really care.she got 40k he was stupid for over reacting.
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I stopped using taxis in Thailand years ago unless I had no choice. If I arrive late in bangkok I book a hotel room near the airport with transfers then next morning catch the sky train or Bell bus to Pattaya.
They are a bunch a gooses and not worth the arguments over the stupid games og not wanting to use the meters or like you said meter tampering.
Change your ways how you get around and it will make you a happier person.Remember Thai men a lazy bunch of sods and if they come from Issan well they are worse.
The land of smiles are long as they are ripping you off.
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As i am not judge or jury this topic is a can on worms. Some Farangs think they are smart and marry and stay in Thailand so their wives do not get influenced with others from the country where they go. Others come to say Australia and get on with their lives.
From my experience it does not matter how you go about it and as long as you have money and prepared to give to the family you will have no problems.
When the money becomes tight cracks will appear and you will be a Cheap Charlie or have no heart.
Enough have been written about the subject and from my observation Thai ladies only love their family and money. Their family does not include the Western husband.
Yep waiting for it what would I know , mine is different.
i always tell people the story would you give your western GF/s parents $40000 to marry her? Answer is always No so why do Farangs do just that in Thailand.
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If you are going back home cash them in and get yourself some form of a credit card. Travellers Cheques are now useless and the last lot I had I cashed in at Singapore and not without a few dramas as my hand writting had changed. Now I am talking about over 10 years ago i used my last lot up.
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Sorry i do not get it. Every week new rules are coming out just for sake of new rules. as a tourist i never bought alcohol on line but there in Australia i buy most of wine on line.
I now know why lots of Farangs are leaving Thailand and coming back to Australia or finding different destinations.
I thought to retire in Thailand but things have changed so much over the years for the worse and best to stay put.
Thailand faces a decline in British tourists and expats: Causes and Consequences
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I think the Government was thinking the Chinese and Indian tourist are better value and hence Western tourist have dropped of. I stay in Pattaya or Jomtein and all the hotels are overrun with those tourists who have no consideration for the way we think people should behave.My wife is Chinese and she even hates going to Thailand.
Once my Dental treatment is complete we will not be going back in the near future.Something I did not mention it is no longer a cheap destination and many hotels have failed to keep up maintenance. Last hotel in Jomtein we changed rooms 4 times due to sewerage smells. To the hotels credit they kept changing us rooms but the fact is a 4 star hotel should be better.