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I don't know about OP, but anyone who tries to deny that young and good-looking is not important in Thailand is just being dishonest. Every year it becomes more obvious--looks are just important if not more important than teaching ability. Sad but true. Maybe I wouldn't be sad if I were young and handsome.

30,000 is not very good in Bangkok. Even without a degree. 35,000 is the normal starting salary. Degree or no degree.

Would you want this guy teaching your kids?

Thailand is a wonderful place.

But if I had kids and they were in Thailand, i would teach them myself.

To answer your question, I would not want him teaching my kids, unless it was how to primp and pump. He is a body builder, I think he said.

Is he smart enough? No.

There are very few farang in Thailand I would trust to teach children without supervision.

Since you asked the question.

consenanto (consonanto) sp

Sorry, just woke up, having a coffee and typing on a tablet. Did I state, scoffing??

High School grads...lol, you reakly are a dreamer. Well, yes...a joint effort by private enterprise and MOE to pay for round trip tickets in advance and provideba literal mountain of paperwork only to have the kiddies run home when...

Homesick
Food too spicy
Promised travel
Cant save money
Bored
Actually have to work
Get a girl pregnant
Find out they can drink at 18
Locate the local bad girl shack and spend all their money
Make a total hash of their lives in the school and or community
Only wanted to stay until they cleared their head and could go on to college.

Need to do a runner because they have banged every peasant girl in town, all hoping to marry the guy

Unattractive females feeling very alone.


Genius

Maturity is necessary for those who wish to be good teachers.

Spicy food would be a must for me, as well.

If I wanted to get an English teaching job, which I do not, I do not think I could.

Those over 30, or 40, must find it very difficult.

But, the spicy food would be not problem for me, and my hashing days are behind me.

Normally, students in the class wish to be entertained by the farang teacher, just as the farang students wish to be entertained by the Thai teacher.

I have seen very few serious Thai language students here.

They are interested in the Ed Visa, and this is all, most of the cases.

And some are real head cases, too.

So, I think that the OP stated he would post more topics discussing different aspects of this issue, as it impinges upon foreigners in Thailand who are not ESL teachers.

I look forward to reading these topics.

comb

 

Philippinos do not speak excellent English, their writing skills are not great either. Acceptable for rural areas not so much for top 500 schools in Thailand imo.

Without doubt someone who has taught for three years and or completed a serious advanced course is cspable of teaching ESL. But its only those without degree that keep scoffing at them as barrier to job entry.

This is 2015, what job does not require a degree? You were to lazy or lack focus to complete one? Now, still would rather yeach illegally than get a degree because inside you know you lack the ability, discipline and life skills.

English may be not needed at all schools, I agree. But many of those kids have class 1x a week, what's the harm?

If the industry can rid itself of teachers without degrees and we can see perks like, scaled salaries by year and province, if married 3+ years = PR. Teachers will gain respect. Allow teachers to own their visas and move at will.

The comment about the teachers on the bts was rubbish. We all speak quite different in different situations, to different people. How mind numbing bigoted and stupid of you.

Get rid of any teacher that in any way offends Thai staff or students. Who does not perform school functions, etc...this lot puts a horrible face on teachers. They will never change.

Also, scrutinize the resumes of teachers. I've seen some seriously bs resumes posted on Ajarn and esljobflow or whatever. Complete 'careers' fabricated. They may even be a risk.

the poor schools would never be able to afford what you propose

 

There are probably plenty of qualified out of work high school level English teachers in the United States who would gladly come to Thailand just for room and board, and a small stipend, and teach for a year or more.

Philippinos do not speak excellent English, their writing skills are not great either. Acceptable for rural areas not so much for top 500 schools in Thailand imo.

Without doubt someone who has taught for three years and or completed a serious advanced course is capable of teaching ESL.

But its only those without degree that keep scoffing at them as barrier to job entry. SO TIRED OF THIS. PLEASE STOP.

This is 2015, what job does not require a degree? You were too lazy or lacked focus to complete one? Now..you'd still would rather teach illegally than get a degree because inside you know you lack the ability, discipline and life skills.

While arguably English, History, Political Science majors are best (majors requiring lots of reading and writing), all majors should guarantee a cire competence in a number of core areas that are solid building blocks of ESL teaching.

North American accent is prefered world round. North American university system is solid by and large. Consistent. You don't have to hire that Anthropology major from some crap school. Yeah, Communications is a ridiculous degree, but perhaps great for TEFL?

English may be not needed at all schools, I agree. But many of those kids have class 1x a week, what's the harm?

If the industry can rid itself of teachers without degrees and we can see perks like, scaled salaries by year and province, if married 3+ years = PR. Teachers will gain respect. Allow teachers to own their visas and move at will.

The comment about the teachers on the bts was rubbish. We all speak quite different in different situations, to different people. How mind numbing bigoted and stupid of you.

Get rid of any teacher that in any way offends Thai staff or students. Who does not perform school functions, etc...this lot puts a horrible face on teachers. They will never change.

Also, scrutinize the resumes of teachers. I've seen some seriously bs resumes posted on Ajarn and esljobflow or whatever. Complete 'careers' fabricated. They may even be a risk.

I think you don't mean to use scoffing this way, if you are giving us and example of this word for an ESL classroom.  Perhaps you mean something like "look askance at", or many other choices.  

honed

hey, does this work in a sentence?

I dont know why she left me, I shoned her a good life?

ps. I proposed to Yingluk on her facebook

Shine-On-Bro

shone

You mention everybody is breaking the law.

Does that mean you have to as well?

Your not in your own country now.

Few years ago. No problem.

But now. If you can't get a work permit. Forget it.

Last thing you want is to be deported.

PS. Not everyone is attached to a bar girl.

In some countries, if caught and deported, one is forced to live in some pretty intolerable detention centers.

Are you saying that this would happen to some farang if caught working without a permit?

I never, ever, would.

But, I am curious what happens to farang who are caught working illegally.

AND why you say that NOW it is bad to be caught teaching illegally. Is it worse than before?

_{My two cents.}

_{There is no way (regardless of the benefits package) that I would live in Bangkok on 30k. No way, no how.}

_{I also would not work in Thailand wothout a valid work permit. Again, no way.}

Totally agree.

You could not pay me enough.

When I first decided to come to Thailand, I made it clear to myself, in no uncertain terms, that the longest I would remain in BKK was walking from one incoming flight to switch planes to the outgoing flight for Northern Thailand.

Basically, i was in BKK airport for about 3 hours.

Coming to Northern Thailand was the best decision I could have made.

So, I would gladly take 20,000 per month, teaching English, rather than 50,000 per month, if I were forced to live in BKK.

I don't spend that much money, anyway, but I have a much higher living standard because some really nice places are available in the North for much lower rents.

My advice to the OP is to rethink, and come North, and then try to get a job for 30,000.

Also, if you are willing to risk working without a permit, then you might as well take private lessons as well.

Of course, really, I would not teach English, period, no matter what you paid me, simply because it is exceedingly boring unless you are teaching Linguistics at the college level.

However, I don't think they would allow doing that without a college degree, or an advanced degree, probably, no matter how young the OP says he looks.

[media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPOVwKPMG8o[/media]

You might send them some of your lucky charms.

Just a thought.

Have you seen the video regarding the teacher who accepts a blind pupil into her class?

I think she was blind.

Shawn (shaun) sp

I have sent many farang here give all their money to the local girls.

 

Its beautiful not thinking twice just giving everything they have.

If you know any more girls who might need money, I have some.

Steiger

 

 

   My wife's aunt has a husband, who is the nicest, hardest working man I have ever met. He is always on the move doing something. Him and his wife are also dirt poor all the time, they have a food stand and he delivers. One day I saw him and hid a 1000baht note in my hand and slipped it into his hand.I wanted too keep it between him and I. I don't need other family members thinking they deserve it. OH NO he wai'd me and then got on his knees and kissed my feet and said something in Thai. The whole family smiled at me. I see him 1-2 times a month and I have got thru to him,that this is on the down-low.     Now only his wife and my wife smile at me when they see the hand-off.What i feel in my heart is worth every single baht.

 

Well, you have obviously become his best patron.

 

 

Yes they have very good food, but sadly they don't serve my favorite...Patron Tequila
 

 

There is a derivation in every name.

I am glad for this topic.

BUT, I do NOT teach ENGLISH, and have no wish to teach English.

What I want to know more about is how will this affect the foreigners, as well as farang, who just want to study for 6 years at a university, or the Thai language to a high level.

In order to learn Thai to be half way fluent, and I mean half way literally, one does need 5 years.

Fluency is thought to only take place after the 7th year.

So, Mr. Scarf, I really hope you will investigate this question and then report as much as you can!

This information will be very valuable.

There are always so many ELS teachers that are so vocal here that the majority of us farang who just want to study do not get and edge in wordwise!

Thank you.

More info about new visa regs and how it affects REAL students who want to STUDY, and not swim and bar hop.

Tks.

AND, students who ALREADY have a BA!

I guess International schools must be getting desperate if they are hiring people for only 30k without degrees.

The salary of 30k is a little low for Bangkok but not extremely for your lack of qualifications.

Take it if you want. You won't be offered much more other places.

Trust me the young and blonde isn't a qualification for a real school. So I doubt this is a top International School.

Your comment is interesting to me, because I had thought just the opposite.

I had thought that if someone was old, no matter what his or her qualifications, chances are that they would not be wanted in most schools, no matter what caliber the school might be.

   My wife's aunt has a husband, who is the nicest, hardest working man I have ever met. He is always on the move doing something. Him and his wife are also dirt poor all the time, they have a food stand and he delivers. One day I saw him and hid a 1000baht note in my hand and slipped it into his hand.I wanted too keep it between him and I. I don't need other family members thinking they deserve it. OH NO he wai'd me and then got on his knees and kissed my feet and said something in Thai. The whole family smiled at me. I see him 1-2 times a month and I have got thru to him,that this is on the down-low.     Now only his wife and my wife smile at me when they see the hand-off.What i feel in my heart is worth every single baht.

Well, you have obviously become his best patron.

prawns

There have been many, many.

One is as good as another, since each one makes us feel very good.

Corny and True.

(living here has changed me for the better.  You laugh.  I was a sinner before.  I now have more faith in my fellow man.  Corny, yes, but true)

Informally showing acknowledgement or agreement, from a female.

Yes, again, in the context I saw it, "acknowledgement or agreement" makes perfect sense. (also, gender is correct)

checks (cheque)

I would like to ask the experts here about the measurement process. When you say x number of words constitutes a certain level of fluency, how is a "word" measured for this purpose? If the word ไป, for example, has three or four different meanings and usages in Thai, is that word counted as one or four? (The same question for words like ได้ and ให้.) If one knows the word รถ and ยนต์ and the combination of รถยนต์, are three words added to the list, or only two? Are คะ and จ้า treated as two words, or variations on one? How about the pronouns เขา and เค้า?

Do names of people and universities, for example, count as separate words for this purpose? Do the adjectival forms of words and their adverbial counterparts count as separate words (e.g. มาก and อย่างมาก); How about simple adjectives and their comparative and superlative forms (e.g. เก่ง. เก่งกว่า, เก่งที่สุด); are these one word or three for the accounting?

Or, is the definition of a "word" for this purpose based on a "one Anki card, one word" approach?

Sorry for asking what may seem a trivial question, but I would like to understand the accounting. I am very impressed by how much knowledge so many of you have of the Thai language and its vocabulary and grammatical structures. Your knowledge and dedication can only serve as an inspiration to the rest of us.

I think you might contact the compilers and publishers of the Thai dictionaries, and other dictionaries, to ask them how they determine what constitutes a separate "entry".

The trend amongst the youngsters is to write จร้า

So then you of course have an r sound in the middle.

BUT, does it still retain the meaning discussed above?

breaking wind (more entertainment)