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People are innocent till proven guilty. However, it is good police practice to interview suspects and all concerned immediately after the crime is reported to capture the facts.

what is the source of your information on "good police practice"?

because logic would dictate that an interview carried out by police will not last long if you call them in immediately someone makes an accusation, you would only have a single question to ask ....

someone said you did this , did you ?

and of course they say no

where do you go now ?

no more questions , thank them for coming in , write up a report saying they say they didn't do it and go back to the accuser saying the accused said they didn't do it ?

seriously do you people think before you post ?

I can at a push imagine someone wanting to end their life (physical or emotional endpoints), but even then, why take other people out without their consent? I can't imagine that extreme, it's just too far for my limited imagination.

Secondly, why would an auto-pilot piece of software allow an imminent failure?

Lastly, can someone explain this to me? "The A320 is designed with safeguards to allow emergency entry if a pilot inside is unresponsive, but the override code known to the crew does not go into effect — and indeed goes into a lockdown".

the door can be locked from inside to stop anyone getting into the cockpit, to do this means you need to be able to lock out the crew code, if someone wanted to take control of an aircraft they would have to get into the cockpit, if the crew refuse to let them in they might be killed to encourage other crew members to be more compliant, if they cant get in there is no point killing them.

I never heard of ths incident before now, and the story doesn't say when it happened. Or did I miss something?

yes

google is your friend !!!!

there are reports now that he recently broke up with his girlfriend and has been diagnosed with some sort of sight problem that would curtail his flying career in addition to the anti-depression meds found at his apartment may provide some some sort of questions.

this is what happens when you let the woman wear the pants

grow a pair.

first thing you should have done was get in a new woman when this one stopped doing stuff. tell her the new one was going to do anything she didn't

yeah there would have been some yelling and screaming, but don't let that bother you she would be the one doing it.

then you would have had good excuse for not giving her money, it was going to the new woman that was picking up the slack.

she would either of got her fat arse with the program or left of her own accord, either way your problem was solved.

now all you can do is stuff the curtain rods in her room with prawns (shrimp), she will leave in about 2 weeks

this seems about as true as the "I hate Thailand" video

can thaivisa or that coconut be sued for spreading lies with monitary gains as goal ?

yes.

although I would guess TVF's lawyers would argue that they were just reprinting another source and would no reason to know that a "reputable" news outlet like coconuts was printing anything but the truth

Quite right, and I'm sure that is exactly what TVF would do.

It's futile, though. Under Thai law (and pretty well all defamation laws, everywhere), repeating the defamation is EXACTLY the same as uttering it first. Just yesterday, the court sentenced the quite well-known TV host Woody to a year (suspended) because he repeated a defamatory statement. He did indeed try on the "I'm a journalist and I was only repeating" and the judge nearly fell over and hurt himself quite seriously, he was laughing so hard.

That said, Thaivisa and all other jackal/vulture media aren't going to be sued or even intimidated over this particular case.

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difference would be that TVF post the story as a reprint of the original, and quote the source ie. TVF says that coconuts says ....

therefore TVF is reporting fact because coconuts did in fact say that

Where are the members now, who, in their wisdom and without facts, were adamant that this occurred, so much so that they howled down, criticised and denigrated others without accepting that those others had different points of view. Even when evidence came to light that the storey was a fabrication, some just would not let go nor accept that they were wrong and kept on and with their churlish chides, regardless of how foolish they continued to look.

What is it with some, just because someone has a different outlook, they apparently need to have some wise man explain to them the reasons for them being wrong. It appears that unless you think with the pack, then whatever you post is scoffed at because you dare to think differently. Now, if you do, then they will attack you and if you dare to challenge back, watch out because this is when the name calling starts, the post is rubbished, because it is meaningless and the so called expert alleges it is unintelligible, and from then on the attacks become relentless. I think some try to solicit angry responses and when unable to, the remarks passed become more intense and highly derogatory.

Maybe some of the posters, who were adamant as to the factualness of the incident and then carried on the way they did, should have a long hard look at themselves and then before coming to and posting such unproven and fallacious statements they should engage their brain before opening their mouths. Now with the police threatening legal action, it would be appropriate for a few to beware of the knock on the door. One never knows and it would be nice to see a few taught a lesson. But so be it in a day on TVF but at least I know who had the last laugh, and no I won't gloat over it.

Without the story of the actual tourists, your post holds no validity.

actually it does if anything more so

to avoid charges of defamation you need to prove what you publish is factual.

if the only evidence that the story was factual and the family were dumped by a taxi (despite a van driver having said they were in his van) is the testimony of the family and they choose not not to say anything then the story has to be considered false.

in short-:

no proof that it happened then it is just a rumour

can thaivisa or that coconut be sued for spreading lies with monitary gains as goal ?

yes.

although I would guess TVF's lawyers would argue that they were just reprinting another source and would no reason to know that a "reputable" news outlet like coconuts was printing anything but the truth

Who in their right mind gets dropped off on a toll way?

Even if its at a booth.

assuming anyone has a "right mind" is a gross error of judgement on your part

Please, please read the thread before posting!!

The number of posters here flying blind is unbelievable.................

only unbelievable if this is your first visit to TVF

Sorry, I'm German and my language skills are not on the point. Why there is danger after lunch?

Fatfather

because it is an Indian lunch

I see many calls to remove the nuts from the boy , rather stupid, counterproductive and small, narrow minded response, the boy is only 15, he has just found out that it is not just for pissing out of , what this young lad needs is serious help and sooner he gets it the better females around him will be , there are specialist organisations within the health department that are there to help, what you don't want is just a penalty without any effort to rehabilitate the lad.

Sometimes, naivete is endearing, sometimes it is dangerous. Yours is the dangerous sort.

I am certain that he has known for quite some time that his penis is not just for pissing out of.

He groomed her. He'd been planning it for weeks, if not months.

I don't know if his temple stay had significance or not, and it may be beside the point.

What is plain is that he committed pre-meditated rape, and what is likely is that he knew it was wrong.

why are you so sure ?

Are you aware of the average age of puberty in Thai boys brought up in villages ?

Do you know him personally ?

How have you determined "grooming" from this article ?

This article does not claim that rape has been committed nor even alleged, the alleged charge is statutory rape, or in simple language sex with a child, the same charge would apply if the boy was 5 years old although then both the boy and girl could be charged.

Although it is clear in your mind what happened legal systems tend to require proof and not " because some guy on a forum said so" before a conviction

Ang Thong police superintendent Colonel Chutrakool Yosmadee said he would review the report from social workers before drawing a conclusion on charging and prosecuting the boy.

What the hell does a social worker have to do with charging someone who rapes an eight year old child? The charges or lack thereof will probably rely on the usual money factor.

typical US attitude -> shoot first, think later (or never). your Avator shows.....

Now, now my friend let's not be rude. I take it from your curse response to my post that English is not your first language but that's ok. I took one year of Spanish in school but I still have problems understanding the intent of some statements made in Spanish.

Please refer to my post #19 for a clarification of my statement. In case you decide not to do that, here is the meaning of my statement.

Raping an eight year old girl is a crime. Raping an eight year old girl is never not a crime. It is not in the realm of a social worker's responsibility to say if a rapist should be charged for the crime or not. It is in the realm of the social worker's responsibility to help point out the circumstances leading up to the rape and give suggestions how to prevent the same thing happening in the future.

You have also misinterpreted my Avatar but that is ok also. One of my hobbies is collecting guns. I have an extensive collection dating back to the US civil war era. The S&W 357 magnum in the Avatar is the same as the one I have which by the way has never been fired.

Hopefully this will clear things up for you.

You seem to be confused with the crime alleged here it is not rape it is statutory rape this used to be called carnal knowledge in most western countries.

obviously his first language is English and sadly the shoot first, think later is the attitude portrayed by the US in general.

Even your posts suggest a lack of thought or knowledge. A social worker is far more appropriate person to interview children then a police officer and the police forces in Australia employ such people for just such purposes.

Even this poorly written article suggests the only evidence so far is hearsay and an inconclusive medical report, if a crime has been commited and if there is hope of prosecution then the children's and the social workers testimonies are going to be pivotal in that court case.

As for misinterpreting your avatar... it is a gun, a revolver, a large calibre, designed to take a large charge , it is designed primarily to kill people, although it can also be used for shooting bears it's primary design was in fact to provide "stopping power". as for the rest of your human killing collection, even you use the civil war as a reference to time rather then using the world wide accepted method of stating a year of the oldest weapon in your collection.

Don't get me wrong I like guns too, as you can see from my avatar but I am not seriously suggesting using a machine gun will open an image that has otherwise failed to open or that a gun is designed for that purpose.

The original post which quotes no source or author says that a father says that a teacher says that a girl says that she doesn't feel well because she was playing a game with her cousin before school and her genitals got hurt.

and the general consensus here is that we should wait another year for the boys testicles to drop so we can cut them off .

do you people ever ask questions about the information you are given?

if not PM me I have several bridges for sale at discounted prices, also I know a Nigerian prince that needs help getting money out of his country, and several contacts apparently from the FBI and CIA that want to get large sums of money they found out of the USA (at least that is what the emails say)

consultation with the social worker would be to collect evidence if that was even what was said, hate to point out the obvious but everyone here is getting their facts from an article so well written and translated that it has them trying to eat their pretend marriage

Spinn the wheel,throw the little ball around,and maby------just maby they could get lucky this time. BS what a bunch of looser's .

'BS what a bunch of looser's "

Why is it, I wonder, that people who say this about other people never seem to be able to spell "loser?"

comes from trolls on game forums increasing the number of o's to emphasise the holding of the vowel in speech as in loooooooooooooooooooooooooooser but some forum software treats any repetition of a single character as a form of spam and auto-edits it to a double only and of course it passes a spell check so must be right. as for the misspelling of "spin" and "maybe" would tend to indicate that English is not this persons first language

How many farang TOURISTS have ever been made to pay this tax? If you counted laptops, phones, cameras, watches etc. nearly all tourists would be over 10,000 baht worth but i have never met anyone who has been stopped arriving in Bangkok and asked to pay. It is not a farang rip off scheme (yet). The issue is more the ambiguous nature of what counts.

On the other hand, unaccompanied baggage, imports of personal affects and parcels are jumped on quite harshly.

never seen a customs agent at Phuket, last time I came in I had a few bottles of red wine with me that I was prepared to pay duty on and there was no one to pay, that was after I had been waved through the vip counter for passport checks without paying too, I guess I have an honest face or something

No smoking on the beach? Great news for me. Anyone who has ever stepped on a burning cigarette when walking on the beach knows what I mean. It HURTS!

Except for a scant few, the vast majority of smokers have proven themselves unable to smoke and deal with their trash (butts) in a responsible manner. Thus they have to be managed like impolite selfish children.

more likely you burnt your foot on a hot coal from a fire the night before

the nature of a burning cigarette is such that stepping on one in sand is more likely to extinguish it then burn you, the sand will draw the heat away from your foot as silica is a far better conductor of heat then skin

and I always dispose of my cigarette butts in a responsible manner, I slip them in to the pockets and bags of idiots going on about how bad smoking is for non-smokers using illogical arguments to support their claims.

What a nonsense reply! Why don't you try to step barefoot on your freshly finished cigi and tell us how it feels?

Not to mention it's called littering and it's disgusting to see piles of butts everywhere.

i have several times stepped on a cig butt and can tell you not only from a scientific point of view but also from a practical test point of view that it is barely noticable

No smoking on the beach? Great news for me. Anyone who has ever stepped on a burning cigarette when walking on the beach knows what I mean. It HURTS!

Except for a scant few, the vast majority of smokers have proven themselves unable to smoke and deal with their trash (butts) in a responsible manner. Thus they have to be managed like impolite selfish children.

more likely you burnt your foot on a hot coal from a fire the night before

the nature of a burning cigarette is such that stepping on one in sand is more likely to extinguish it then burn you, the sand will draw the heat away from your foot as silica is a far better conductor of heat then skin

and I always dispose of my cigarette butts in a responsible manner, I slip them in to the pockets and bags of idiots going on about how bad smoking is for non-smokers using illogical arguments to support their claims.

Thai people do not like foreigners....you can see it everyday...on the news...in the streets....at work....they put up with foreigners to make money, but deep down, they do not like foreigners and would prefer that we all just be quiet and let them cheat us out of money as they wish. i'm sorry to say it...but so far, Thai people have not been so great to me. maybe your experience is better than mine...i hope so.

I have found Thai people to be among the friendliest and happiest in the world.

In a society with a normal judicial system, the court would have no jurisdiction to determine whether she can leave the country. A person cannot lose their rights (in this case as provided under the Interim Charter in Article 4) simply because they are suspected to have committed a crime.

The Junta needs to "put up or shut up." Direct her arrest. Then the Supreme Court can decide the extent of her civil liberties. But I'm okay with the self-inflicted controversary because it continues to present Yingluck as a victim and she'll gain more support for it.

refer to my post above yours it appears from the linked story there are cases before the courts and as such a person can not travel freely

and in some "societies with a normal judicial system", they can indeed prevent you from travelling while you are a suspect in a continuing investigation

Unless she is charged with an offence she should be free to travel as she wishes.

this thread -: http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/800471-civil-case-on-rice-scheme-unfair-ex-pms-lawyer/?utm_source=newsletter-20150215-1123&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news seems to suggest there are several cases against her before the courts and her lawyers want them heard before civil cases are brought before the courts

PLEASE ALL who don't know what a Swiss army knife is, google it and you WILL KNOW that the knife in the video WASN'T A SWISS ARMY KNIFE.

Please look at the video again

the knife ISN'T A SWISS ARMY KNIFE.

Sorry for the uppercase, but I can see from what most people respond to the OP and believe it's a tool knife, I said it before but people still post comments on the wrong type of knife.

Don't be critical of the RTP, they have their full rights to confiscate and fine the person having the SWITCH BLADE knife, at least 4 inches long.

IT IS NOT a Swiss army knife.

And YOU evidently don't know what a switchblade is either. Sorry, but your childish oversize typeface doesn't make it a switchblade. Have you ever even SEEN a switchblade knife??

And some people don't stop call it a swiss army knife before some childish person comments on it with uppercase and upsized bolded letters.

If you believe that the distinction between a switchblade and a folded knife, has crept in to the swedish language, you are arrogant and quite ignorant.

Evidently the point wasn't if it was a folded knife or a switchblade, which still now, the distinction eludes me, it wasn't a swiss army knife, got it ?

The difference is like between a bee bee gun and a .45.

English isn't my native language and I bet a lot more people than me here aren't experts in the English language so you point comes out as arrogant and completely and utterly irrelevant.

My first post that it wasn't a swiss army knife (which the whole god damn world knows what it looks like and what functions it could have) was completely ignored, but my second with bold and uppercase letters apparently wasn't, so do you think some Thai bashers feel a little bit awkward now?

nah they are trolls that didn't even feel awkward when they were banned from the World of Warcraft forums

The worst thing for me is the motorbike delivery men who charge up and down a one-way street wielding braziers of hot coals, showering sparks on to my clothes. It is said one helping of shishais worse for your health than 20 cigarettes.

it is also said that an ant can sex an elephant to death

but I am yet to see any evidence of either

Anyone know what pub this is? I'm guessing it's a farang place yes?

i was wondering that too, but I got the feeling it was a"locals" night club, where all the bar staff go after close time

So any country can decide what time zone they want stay in?

pretty much, if you take a look at the time zone maps the lines are "adjusted" to suit

so no one contested him and 1/3 of the cabinet voted for no one ?

am I reading that right ?

must be English,

from what I have seen when they teach English in Thai schools they always teach them to say "sit down prease"