AndySilverfox

59 minutes ago, kiwikeith said:

What actually happens is that the property developers buy the cards, then it is built into the price, trying to get an Elite Visa without buying an overpriced condo is very difficult to do. 

 

Yes another scam, now the big boys are very busy working out scams, while the Tuk Tuk scammers have to plant rice. 

That is not how it works with Developers. The Thai Elite Visa is an "add-on" at a separate cost from the Condo purchase, it is an optional extra. I looked into it, but IMHO it is bad idea as if you sell the Condo, the Visa is gone too. 

35 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

Don Muang or Swampy ?

Swampy - I think it was a sort of purge . A few stopped in a few days . All checked after for compliant visas . I se on here many have done it and got away with it. 

JD - I can see that you are obviously a sort of official on this subject judging by your multiple posts. I am intereseted, but really do not know that much about it at all. I have not seen any statements from witnesses and I have not seen any conclusive CCTV near the time of the murder, I assume you have seen far more. There is one snap in the shop much earlier and one of the 3 burmese on the bike even earlier, none others that I have seen. I also think the motive line is extremely weak. There could be the motive of being rejected and rebuked in a bar by a pretty tourist and hence losing big face as opposed to the motive of working as slave labor with no welfare or respect driving someone to attack, rape and murder after a bottle of beer and sing song on the beach. BUT my real comment was, I just do not understand why they did not leave...It was not hard to get off the island. I have no idea who did this, but it would not be a normal action for a murderer to just hang around like this. I just hope justice is served.

To which CCTV clip(s) are you referring?

^{If I was an Itinerant worker, working illegally on Koh Tao and had just raped and killed a girl in a frenzied brutal attack with a garden hoe and killed her boyfriend. I would stay on the island as if nothing had happened even wearing the same shirt the next day, no need to change after all (no nasty blood stains or anything).}

Public boats off the island watched.

Multiple identical work shirts owned

so did the police find a blood stained shirt from the accused..? I do not think so. The shirt looks identical, but as you say it could be another from the bar. I cannot imagine how there would no stains on any of his clothing. How many shirts has he got..? is there one missing. How many days after the murder was he arrested..? plenty of time to get off regardless of being "watched" plenty of others got off OK. It just seems odd that they would just hang around after such a henious crime. There were no witnesses at all, no CCTV of them at the correct time, so it must all be hinging on DNA, which would prove rape. It would not satisfy Sherlock.

^{If I was an Itinerant worker, working illegally on Koh Tao and had just raped and killed a girl in a frenzied brutal attack with a garden hoe and killed her boyfriend. I would stay on the island as if nothing had happened even wearing the same shirt the next day, no need to change after all (no nasty blood stains or anything).}

And what Visa are these Police on?

It takes about 10 minutes to get an Urgent Duty Work Permit issued. This is just a formality.

What a ridiculous statrement to make at a time like this. He is under pressure to show the world that Thailand is not 3rd world and that they are capable of serving justice, then he states that Thailand need to monitor the quality of tourists! Has he really put any thought into this at all? Or is it just another silly "bikini" statement? How will they monitor tourists to ensure only "quality" tourists are admitted..? Dress code, wealth, police record, political/religious persuasion, colour, age. Assuming the criteria would be pre-set and not a brown shirted gent alongside immigration booth waving away anyone in board shorts or long and untidy hair, it could result in far worse "quality" tourists altogether. He is going to contiune to make obtuse statements to deflect the attention from the incompeteance of the RTP, or maybe they are not so incompetant after all, as so far they have succeded in protecting the guilty parties in this hideous crime and regardless of the fate of the accused, justice will not be served.

Why were these Burmese worker apprehended again..? looks like a lucky pick to me. Is Sean McKenna's information now all put down as ramblings of a mad man ? He knew David and has the same scar shape as the victim. He was fearful for his life following the murders, but he is not worth speaking to.? I would have thought he would have a story to tell, and I doubt if it would include any Burmese workers. It does seem quite likely that he was at the scene of the crime in some capacity. I don't think this case would trouble Sherlock too much.

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John, innocent until proven guilty and the evidence that has been presented so far is extremely dodgy, and would not convict in the West (compromised DNA, no witnesses, etc'). These 2 guys were tested for DNA early on in proceedings, with no match, but after a round up of all available scapegoat types, their DNA was a match. Why was McKenna in fear for his life. ? He knew the scale of what these guys are capable of. RTP have not handled this very wellwith deliberately misleading all, directing blame to various alternative culprits including anyone except of course any Thai national...Jealous gay..burmese.., etc'. The crime scene did not look like it was the scene from a jealous gay lover, it was an horrific bloody mess created by vengeful, nasty, viscious people. If these guys really are the culprits it will be the very very first time that the RTP have been successful in such a case, so the chances are very slim to be frank.