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    divorced but staying on marriage visa

    in Thai Visas, Residency, and Work Permits

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    14 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

    That's confusing. If one leaves the country without a re entry isn't the visa cancelled, and no one has to give a reason to leave Thailand.

    The immigration officer asked me 2-3 times if I'm coming back before visa expiry and don't I want a re-entry permit because the visa is cancelled otherwise. She didn't write or mark or stamp the visa extension with anything but I certainly consider it cancelled.

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    divorced but staying on marriage visa

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    2 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

    He is on the wrong bus.

    Think referring to non O retirement. 

    You are not 50 yet so that's not possible.

    Your options eg tourist visa have been discussed in the thread.

     

    An METV would be your best option giving you up to 9 months however that is normally obtained in your pp country. 

     

    SETV is for quick easy option.

    Can obtain from Laos, Vietnam etc. 

    Appreciate you always.

    My plan is to come back on a visa exempt, then get an ED visa for muay thai (i already train 3-5 times a week and considering taking a fight later this year) or ED visa for Thai language since I really finally wanna learn the language.

    IF they don't ban me, is there some risk coming back within 2 weeks with the same passport, planning to get a visa exempt?

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    divorced but staying on marriage visa

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    12 hours ago, problemfarang said:

    suggestion:

     

    get your visa out of thailand. do your forst extension using an agency. Then do it by yourself in your second extension. This way you will bypass that stage immigration will ask you to see your wife and documents. they dont need them anymore in your second extension

    I don't understand why immigration would ask about marriage documents if I come back on a tourist visa or visa exempt? the NON-O visa based on thai spouse wouldn't be valid anymore

    Especially if I come back with a new passport with a tourist visa on it

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    divorced but staying on marriage visa

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    No kids, no clue what was talked about between immigration and the elderly lady. I only know that phone numbers were exchanged so that they will give my ex-wife a call. But she goes traveling today in the morning and won't be available for a call.
    I'm thinking since they will call her instead of giving a new visit at a set time, perhaps it could be just a regular check-up.
    But we'll learn more later today when I exit Thailand.

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    divorced but staying on marriage visa

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    36 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

    Absolutely not.

     

    At departure the immigration officer may point out to you that you do not have a reentry permit.

    He is being helpful.

    Just acknowledge you don't want one..

    You will have no issue at departure.

     

    BTW: Think you are doing the wise thing exit Thailand given the visit from immigration to wife home. 

    Fingers crossed for no issues at departure...feels like that would be the case but the demons in my mind are telling me otherwise.
     

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    divorced but staying on marriage visa

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    Posted · Edited by stoicccc

    30 minutes ago, problemfarang said:

    i see...

     

    well worst thing prepare 20K and told them you didnt know, you think you could keep the visa till expire.

    please inform us

     

    good luck

    fully prepared to face the 20k fine and 1-year ban.
    when i fly out without a re-entry permit they will cancel the visa anyway. i don't care about that at all. just wishing not to face the 1-year ban since my life and heart is in very deeply in Thailand.

    edit: is it worth getting the re-entry permit to make the exit for a vacation look more real?

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    divorced but staying on marriage visa

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    6 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

    You don't know why they were looking for her. It might not have reached them and they just did normal rounds. But found nobody home.

     

    Be a bit optimistic, else you'll really draw all the wrong attention to you at the airport.

    I'll play it cool for sure, it's just that during 5 years of marriage they never came to check on us before.

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    divorced but staying on marriage visa

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    Posted · Edited by stoicccc

    55 minutes ago, problemfarang said:

     

    Hi,

    this is exactly what happened to me in covid times.

    i was divorced and asked my ex to show like we are still married because of covid. she agreed.

    the thing is no one (immigration) will not know you are divorced unless you or she inform them. Normally the day you divorced you need to go to immigration and will get 1 day to leave the country if there is no kids. If have kids you can change your visa and can stay.

     

    what i did is i stayed on my non-o for another 2 years till people can fly again. I went to airport and when i was leaving the IO told me i still have date in my visa so if i will come back i can go to the IO in the immigration and make it re-entry. i simply told him i will not come back so no problem. left the country. i got my non-b working from the thai embassy. no problem. i entered thailand no problem. 

     

    now the problem started when i went to extend my non-b at chang wattana.... the lady was ok with all paper work from the work and everything. she was almost going to stamp it then.. ta ta.. she noticed that i had non-o before and she asked me where my wife is now and not with me. i told her its non-b not non-o so why she needs my wife, and she answered me she needs to connect or link the visas. no idea what its or for. But later i found out that they simply dont want to get tricked by some way (which in my and your case we were trying lol) well i told her that shes in another city working. for some reason it must be her best day and she asked me if i have her Id and our marriage certificate with me. luckily i had photos in my phone and i asked her if its ok i copy them now and she said yes. I must admit i was lucky. dont know why and how... just lucky. if she was not in her good day i was overstay 2 years plus other charges such as illegal visa (i used agency to get my other 2 years extensions) the moment she asked me where my wife.. i felt like i started to see things black.. i felt i have a fever.. i felt the game is over... But like i said i was very very super lucky. she took the documents and extend my non-b for another year. with all the power i left in that 5 min i asked her if she is going to need my wife again for the next year extension she said no, it was only for this time because i changed my visa by leaving the country but not in the country... or something like that. 

     

    so... there will be no problem till you leave the country. you can leave safe. BUT in your next extension for any kind of visa... be very very careful. they know... it will haunt you, sorry. Most likely your not cancelling visa will be a problem and they will ask to see your wife OR want to see marriage certificate.. 

     

    good luck

    appreciate your message, well noted.
    i think the difference in my case and yours is that most likely immigration has been informed about the divorce. and that would also be the reason why they visited my ex-wife.
    that immigration is in a small province close to BKK, I will be flying out from a different province in about 18 hours so perhaps the news haven't traveled his far yet.
    according to a couple of lawyers i talked to, this information is now shared between the amphoes and the immigration. i guess we'll find out tomorrow.

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    divorced but staying on marriage visa

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    Posted · Edited by stoicccc

    7 minutes ago, Caldera said:

    Actually you had to leave when your divorce became final. The big question is why immigration showed up at your ex-wife's house. Chances are they became aware of your divorce, which if true would be a big problem, as you probably couldn't just leave the country anymore, which would be your best option otherwise.

    It would be an overstay from Dec 12th, why wouldn't the let me leave the country`?

    divorced but staying on marriage visa

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    Posted · Edited by stoicccc

    2 minutes ago, DrJack54 said:

    OK....

    Your permission of stay ended date of divorce.

    However immigration is not notified of divorce.

    You mentioned on good terms with X wife.

    You can run small risk of remaining in Thailand or exit .

    When you exit there will be no issue with immigration.

     

    Concerned about immigration visit.

    That's not normal.

    Are you 50+

    no, i'm not 50 yet.

    talked to a lawyer and he recommended visiting the immigration ASAP and explaining the situation

    divorced but staying on marriage visa

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    1 minute ago, Caldera said:

    Do you actually have a still valid visa from an embassy (1 year, multiple entries) that requires you to to border bounces every 90 days? Or do you have an extension from immigration in Thailand?

     

    An extension needed to be canceled when the divorce became final, and I suspect that's what the district office told you to do. You could get into serious trouble if your overstay is discovered. 

    I need to do the 90d report, no need to leave the country until August 26th

    divorced but staying on marriage visa

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    Just now, DrJack54 said:

    Do you mean extension based on marriage from a non O.....OR 

    A ME non O marriage visa valid for one year? 

     

    If an extension then that permission of stay ended date of divorce. 

    If a ME non O marriage visa then that remain valid.

     

    Why did immigration do a home visit. 

    Are you on OK terms with x wife? 

    When folk get divorced sometimes the farang remains in Thailand and exits prior to permission expiry. 

     

    I'm in great terms with my ex-wife.
    I'm on NON-O that's valied from 22 September 2022 to 26 August 2023.
    I dont know why immigration made the visit, they will call my wife since she wasnt home when they made the visit. They talked to her neighbour. 

    divorced but staying on marriage visa

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    immigration had visited my ex-wife's place but she was not home. 
    i've been staying on marriage visa after the divorce in december, visa expires in August.
    no one at the amphoe told me to go to immigration about the visa when we were getting the divorce.

    What's the worst case scenario staying on the marriage visa after divorce?
    Can they ban me from the country because of that?

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