jonnyramone

England was indipendent already, his policy was already very "different" and "unique" comparing the EU member States...This vote is full nonsense. England has always done what it wanted in EU as in the World. The immigration issue is just a populist lie , a kind of right-wing governments duty. In the last european summit , Cameron rejected all the EU proposals regarding an equal distribution of immigrants coming from middle east area...And Europe, as always, accepted . UK was already safe from any "immigrant" issue. About the economic issue, someone forgot that England already declined to join euro money so it can actually control its own economy in a much better way than the countries who have joined it.The story that UK economy was struggling because EU is simply ridiculous....It will struggle now.

An example is Ireland, wich was in the PIIGS countries (Portugal,Ireland,Italy,Grece,Spain) and despite EU and euro money has outpaced other developed economies over the past two years , better than any emerging countries (Ireland GDP is + 9.2 , better than China ).

I'm sorry to say but England's vote has nothing to do with EU, Angela Merkel or Junker...I see only a populist vote and an imperial nostalgia ...all led by a Tories war.

Any "6 month" restriction would be a consulate-created rule - not to be confused with "Thai Immigration Laws," where there exists no restriction on the time a person can stay in Thailand on Tourist Visas. Consulates can add any rules they choose, within the limits of the actual Laws.

I've been in Thailand on Tourist Visas longer than 6 months in my current passport, and had no problem using Banana (agent) in Penang a few weeks ago. Others have reported ok service going to the consulate in Penang directly, but if it is anything like Phnom Penh, not using an agent and showing up in person is, shall we say, not preferred.

In Laos, you will (and must) show up and submit your application, yourself. Yes, you can have some service book the trip for you, arrange a hotel, and provide transport (at a 50%+ mark-up over DIY) - but you must apply in person, so nothing to gain by not making your own travel/transport arrangements.

Yes, I guess my mistake was not arranging any agent but going by myself. I thought consulate-rules were the same averywhere in Thailand, now I know they're not.

If your visa expires on a Saturday, you might consider traveling on the Sunday. There is no financial penalty for this when leaving from Don Muang, but you are likely to get an overstay stamp that looks a little off.

Hi Tim, my visa trip to Penang was a disaster.As soon as thet saw I was in the Kingdom for 6 months already with a tourist visa they asked so many questions that make feel I was in a Gestapo office. They wanted to know why I was in Thailand so long and for what reason. I told 'em I had money to afford a long holiday, I also showed 'em my "chanot" (appartment paper) attesting I bought a condo in Bangkok ... anything in vain. Despite I had brought all the documents , I had no overstay stamp or suspicious thing on my passport they refuse to give me a simple tourist visa . Can't believe it. Motivation was : farang cannot stay more than 6 months in a row in Thailand with tourist visa. So before I left the embassy I asked 'em why in Laos the thai embassy allows farangs to get tourist visa 2 more times after 6 months stay....They didn't answer...Different rules for different embassy...Amazing Thailand.

They prefer we do illegal way, contacting some connected-with police agency , and have a visa trip to Laos with them , minivan way.

Anyway Tim, I'm here to ask you about the Laos trip, wich at the moment gonna be in a month.

I'm trying to avoid the minivan trip, so I was thinking to get Laos by myself with a flight ticket.

Would you suggest me to flight straight to Vientaine or go to Udon Thani and pass the border then ?

Could you please tell me how long getting a tourist visa gonna take ? Let's say for example, if I stay at the Embassy on Monday morning, can I get my passport the day after ?

Thanx a lot mate, your answer will be very appreciate .

Jonny.

It's a so called 30% film, hence the name CR70, but much clearer than eg. a Lamina (also 30%) I had previously. Like night and day so to speak ;-)

I starting to have problems with night visibility, and with the old film, I wasn't comfortable driving at night. With the CR70, I don't have any problems. I paid 12,000 for a whole car, and with this car, I just changed the windshield. 4,000 Baht.

Did you change your films in Bangkok ? Any shop to recommend ?

Thanx again,

This topic has been discussed a few times. Price reflects quality, but also different to what you may prefer. I prefer to see out at night, more than anything else, with not much glare etc. So I opted for 3M Crystalline CR70. About 12,000. Couldn't be happier.

Thanx mortenaa, can you tell me how much percentage has your film ? 40 % , 30 % ?

What do you think about HI Kool brand ?

Cheers.

I am glad I am in Thailand and can just buy it very inexpensive over the counter and inject myself. Also, like others have said the Gel is available here ( I have seen it in packets and also the squirt bottle), but runs about $100 for a month supplies last I checked. Still better if you are out of pocket in the USA.

I also saw a gel in squirt plastic bottle sold in a Bangkok pharmacy but it was not legit. I think the brand was meditech or something. Bottle was blue color and the pumping mechanism supposed to deliver the gel was totally wrong. There are 2 legit companies using this type of administration, both not sold in Thailand. ProStrakan Ltd. from UK and Cellegy Pharmaceuticals in the US . In Europe we get the UK gel called Tostrex and the gel is contained in a canister not a plastic bottle. The canister is made of metal and it is particularly suitable for pharmaceutical purposes, the plastic doesn't.The pumping system of the canister is very important...each time the piston is depressed (when the pump mechanism is pushed down) 10 mg. of testosterone are realesed so you can adjust your perfect dosage. You cannot do this with that plastic bottle because the gel is discarded continually so you can't understand how much testo you're getting. That's the reason why original brands are very expensive (about 57 euro for 1 canister containing 60 grams of gel). The one in packets is Androgel or Testogel, not sure about that, but you can find it in Hospytal, price is high and brands are original (Shering or Solvay Pharma).

No, medication is not regulated by state. Testosterone is a Schedule 3 drug. The feds schedule medication, not states. If your blood levels show you have low T, you don't need an anti aging clinic as a general Dr. will generally prescribe it for you. What we were talking about was the idea of Dr.s prescribing it to young and healthy guys because they want to have bigger muscles and better sex......most Dr.s will not do this despite what you have heard. Obviously some at anti aging clinics might if you pay for it.

Growth hormone is roughly $500 a month in the US. Not many people can afford this.

Healthy guys can get steroids on black market just like in Europe, but what I'm trying to say is that in your country is much easier find a doctor prescribing a testo / GH therapy than Europe/UK.

In Europe the antiaging therapy is mostly related to herbal supplements, vitamins and lifestyle changing. Testosterone is considered last option and just in some very few cases.

In US , you don't need to be over 60 to get Testo shot from your doctor..., if you 30 proving your testo level is under the norm, you get prescription....There are many legit antiaging clinics in South California where anyone over 30 can go and get his prescription easily. You just need blood work and some cash.

While we do have anti aging clinics, they are insanely expensive and therefore quite exclusive. There is absolutely no standard Dr. in the USA prescribing Testosterone to a 30 year old because he want to be bigger, stronger, etc. The DEA keeps a very close eye on these prescriptions and many Dr.s don't want to deal with it. Remember, Testosterone and other steroids are completely illegal in the USA without a prescription. Even in the UK, there is no law against possession of steroids for personal use. Testosterone and other steroids have a very negative stigma attached to them in the USA. Not nearly as many men are utilizing TRT as you may think.

In Europe we don't have antiaging clinics and endos are very reluctant to prescribe Testo.

About laws in US I guess any State got different rules. In California is very easy to find Endos willing to prescribe both Testo and Growth. I was in LA last year, and I saw it with my own eyes.

You just need a blood sample proving your test level is under the norm and no problem at all.

You go to any doctor in Europe with your "less than zero" testo level and he will start talking about zinc , tribulus , and stop exercise.

another quick Q:

Needle sizes - 24-maybe even 30 gauge 1" for subQ or 1 1/2" 24 gauge for Intramuscular? (also - maybe 18 Gauge for drawing from vial,)

Syringe sizes for 1/2 ml and 1 ml of T - I would have thought use larger by a factor of at least 4 i.e. 2ml and 4ml respectively? ( as the dose would be 1/4 of the barrel therfore easier to press the plunger a shorter distance.?)

Also location/contact details at Bumrungrad for full blood panel would be helpful.

TIA

Bumrungrand location is very easy. It's near Nana area. Going from Nana Hotel you cross the road at the Traffic light near the Police Box and keep going straight for the opposite road where Grace Hotel is located. Bumrungrand is near Pakistan Embassy and almost in front of Grace Hotel. Once in Nana it's very easy to find it anyway, there are signals.

My Lacoste T shirts have Lacoste written on them but I bought them in Mikes shopping mall for 200 baht.

Where did you get your windows tinted?

This is the shop....

http://www.popautoglass.co.th/

I've been to the dealer shop and I get more info about windows film.

They have are 3 kinds of 3M film. The one I have wich is darker, the milion film wich is brighter at the same price, and the crystalline wich is even brighter (only 40 %) and it costs 16,000 baht for the entire car.

They say the milion film is able to stop the sun more than the one I have even if it's brighter but could give problem on GPS and easy pass. The crystalline is the brightest one , protects more from the sun and no problem with GPS and easy pass.

That's what they told me....

Does anyone know a trusted place in Bangkok-Pattaya ?

I found this on the net : http://www.solarkool.biz/cars.html , any feedback ?

Thanx.

Quick Q for those who inject: Once an an ampoule is opened you can't use half and keep half - even in the fridge? i.e not sterile. I think I know the answer to this. it seems there are bottles (10ml?) that are designed for multiple shots taken from it but don't know if have here.

Was thinking of 2x SubQ/week using Testoviron Depot injectable steroid: amp per unit (250 mg/ml). BUT each dose is half ampoule.

Reason for wanting 2x SubQ of 1/2 250mg is to avoid overshoot as It seems it is overshoot above normal range that causes high estradiol conversion (also want stable levels). My concern here is prostate enlargement, which it seems estradiol plays a part in far more than DHT as is the classic theory. Also if can reduce estradiol conversion less of other sides maybe. Aramidex, SERM such as clomiphene and also Mesterolone are options to control I know.

Problem of Proviron is that it's a DHT derivates...That's the reason why prov. is good to lower estrogen in the body. DHT derivates cannot be converted in estrogen , this is the reason why bodybuilders love them before competitions. So if you mind about prostate issue, stay away from Proviron and/or any DHT derivates.

We don't really use Test Enanthate in the US. However, that has nothing to do with the weekly injection protocol. When knowledgeable Drs in the US do prescribe Test Enanthate, it is still on a weekly basis.

The reason why in US dosages are quite higher than Europe/UK and antiaging therapy is more popular, is because american society is more competitve than european. In Europe the socialist governments want everybody weak and submissive hoping for a government job...(of course this my very arguable opinion).

Antiaging therapy was born in US , recently it has spread in Europe. In US endos begin to prescribe testo to 30 years old men looking to be stronger, bigger and sexually active . No way you will find and endochrinologist in Europe/UK willing to prescribe Testosterone to a 30 years old guy unless he has some serious hormonal disease (hypogonadism, etc.etc.).

Sounds to cheap. Are you sure it's original?. Does it have 3M and a code printed on the film?.

Yes, there is 3M code printed on the film . I don't know if the glare ad reflection issues are related to the poor quality or the 60 % of the film, wich is too dark.

Hi all,

I've just changed window films on my Chevrolet Cruze with 3M dark black , 60 % on side and on the front windshield and rear window. Problem is that I got some reflection issue...In the night the lights from outside are blurry and, as I said, there's a sort of reflection effect expecially on the rear window.

I paid 4,500 baht for the entire car...I guess this film is the cheapest one...I've heard of other types of films like multicolor or cristalline , more expensive and more performing. I wonder if my issues are related to the 3M film I've just installed .

Any expert who can explain ?

Thanx a lot.

Thanx a lot to Tim and Johnatong...I guess the best option is travelling during the week despite my visa expires on saturday.

cheers.

I was talking about Bangkok clinics, here all the samples go to the lab i mentioned. I did not know this at first and I went all the way to that lab to do tests. They told me that they collect all the samples from all the labs around BKK and test them in the lab. So later I just went to a clinic near my home for testing. I assume that they keep the blood cool. But your right there is always a risk especially in Thailand that rules are not followed. But as this is one lab that services loads of clinics I assume (could be wrong) that they have set up a special service for that too.

Well, I might have no idea about blood test in Pattaya clinics but certainly you are not very informed about managing blood and blood product transfer.

Any blood sample that is exposed to temperatures outside refrigeration specifications (7-8 degrees) for longer than 30 minutes will alter the parameters.That's the reason why I was suggestion the gentlemen here to do their hormonal samples in hospytals having qualified lab test or at least a trusted transport service with special vehicles equipped with very expensive cold storage compartments (wich I doubt Pattaya clinics have), able to transfer blood without altering hormonal parameters.

The water ritention I'm talking about is not related to high estrogen...It could be a cause but not the only one. Testosterone, like all the anabolic steroids, increases the amount of nitrogen , sodium and water stored in body tissues . This is one of the main cause of Hypertension and eventually stroke.

....And finally.....Testosterone enanthate has half life of 7 days ? I thought it was 2 weeks.....

Now I understand why arimidex and other smilar stuff are involved in this topic.

The water retention I was talking about was based on the estrogen and yes that is the reason why people talk about arimidex so you don't hold extra water. But as you also pointed out too low estrogen is bad too, that is why tests are needed as you correctly pointed out we don't all respond the same to medicine. Though most people who are on a dose lower as 250 mg of test a week do ok on 1/4 a tablet of arimidex every day.

I read the half-life was 7-9 days still long, there are other versions like propionate that has a half life of 2-3 days.. but that is too short if you only want to inject once a week.

Anyway anyone on HRT should really read up about it and know what they are getting into and they should do blood tests.

Thank you for telling me about the nitrogen, I did not know that. I thought all water retention from steroids was estrogen based.

I do know that I test my blood pressure too especially when I am taking creatine too because too much water retention is bad for you for the reasons you mentioned before.

I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about Pattaya Clinics....Since you are in Bangkok situation is different of course.

I did testosterone test in Bumrungrand several times....Never been disappointed...All the time I was on testo, blood test shows low FSH and LH ( temporary testicle shut down) and medium/high free testosterone levels. So my conclusion is that Bumrungrand lab is quite accurate and true.

The enanthate (testoviron 250) seems to be more popular in Europe , prescription dosage is 250 mg. every 3 or 4 weeks. In America testosterone cypionate is mostly used instead with a prescription dosage of 200 mg. a week or 10 days . It seems that cypionate has a shorter half-life than enanthate (not like propionate anyway).

In Thailand the Bayer-Shering group has factories so it's easy to find real enanthate in any pharmacy here while propionate and cypionate are both made by T P Drug (Cypionax - Testolic) wich is a legit company from Bangkok .

About high blood pressure I had the same problem and I strongly suggest you to control your b.p. daily. Try to avoid salt as much as you can, drink a lot of water and increase your cardio wich I believe still remains the best way to decrease HBP. (together with a ACE inihibitor therapy).

Another important blood test that anyone on HRT should do is hematocrit (HCT) and Hemoglobin.

One of the side effect of any hormone (Testo included) is the increase in red blood cells leading to thicken the blood.. The more viscous the blood, the harder the heart must work to move it around...This is a very dangerous issue....HRT and Hemoglobin are part of CBC Complete blood count , very cheap test that any good clinic can do .

Cheers.

When you arrive at the Chulia Mansion Hotel, ask them to have the agent come by. If you prefer to walk to the agent they use, that is also possible. Ask me for directions if you prefer to do that.

Note that, on arrival in Penang, it is possible to get a bus direct from the airport to near the hotel. If counting the pennies, you might choose to do this, though a taxi does not cost a fortune. No change is available for bus fares. When you change Thai baht into Malaysian ringgit, ask them to give you plenty of 1 ringgit notes. That way, any lost change is less than 5 baht or so.

Thanx Tim your help is very appreciate .

So, from what I've understand, Chulia Mansion hotel got kind of visa agency in the lobby so no need to call them from here. I'd like to do the stamp procedure as soon as possible in order to go back to Thailand the next day. Let's say I arrive on friday , can I get the passport on Saturday and flight back to Bangkok the same day ? Do you think is possible call Chula Hotel telling them to pick me up to the airport with the agent and go straight to the embassy ?

Last question, is Chulia a decent hotel ? I'm not Rockefeller but I can afford decent places...One of the reason why I don't want to travel with agency to Laos is because minivan and midden hotel.

Is this the Hotel you are talking about :

http://chuliamansion.com/gallery/

Cheers.

Thank you guys, I think I will definetely go to Penang.

Brit Tim, wich is the best way to contact an agent ? Just calling Chulia Mansion Hotel ?

Thanx again...

Seems you have absolutely no idea what your talking about for the blood test. These tests are not done in the clinics, they are all send to the same laboratory in BKK. So in this area you have no idea what you are talking about.

www.bangkoklab.com (that is where they all go and that is where you get the printout from)

Duration in the system has nothing to do with the side effects. The dosage has, and if you want short duration then just take an other kind of testosterone. Problem is then that you have to inject more frequent. The water retention you are talking about is a direct result from a higher estrogen. No idea why you mention them both separate. So again it depends on the dose you will see more side effects on a higher dose.

You are right to take more tests, i take all those tests and I get around 2000 bt. When I do tests I do a battery of tests not just free estradiol but in my opinion its the least what someone should do.

Test ethane has a half life of 7 days.. so your right it stays long in the system. But if you do it correctly its far better as capsules. But your entiteled to your opinion as am I. I know that injections are always the best delivery system. Just ask any DR specialized in HRT.

Well, I might have no idea about blood test in Pattaya clinics but certainly you are not very informed about managing blood and blood product transfer.

Any blood sample that is exposed to temperatures outside refrigeration specifications (7-8 degrees) for longer than 30 minutes will alter the parameters.That's the reason why I was suggestion the gentlemen here to do their hormonal samples in hospytals having qualified lab test or at least a trusted transport service with special vehicles equipped with very expensive cold storage compartments (wich I doubt Pattaya clinics have), able to transfer blood without altering hormonal parameters.

The water ritention I'm talking about is not related to high estrogen...It could be a cause but not the only one. Testosterone, like all the anabolic steroids, increases the amount of nitrogen , sodium and water stored in body tissues . This is one of the main cause of Hypertension and eventually stroke.

Thank you guys, very appreciate it...

The agency offered me the flight option. If minivan 7,000 baht all included, with flight (laos air) 14,000 baht.

Too bad thai embassy in KL is worst than Singapore...Good to know .

So , what about Penang...any direct flight from BKK to Penang ? Is the thai embassy staff there more kind ?

How long it gonna takes to have a tourist visa in Penang ?

Thanx again...

What i dont understand is why people dont take blood tests if they are doing HRT.

If you are doing something that has potential health impact is it so hard to go to a clinic and pay around 800 bt for an estrogen test. Take some other tests too its cheap here.

The reason why I choose gel instead of vials is because I've done blood test before, during and after testosteone therapy. I worked for 30 years as Biologist at the microbiology lab in Vrije University, Brussels , I know what I'm talking about . As I said before, anyone reacts differently on drugs, we are not the same.

Vials are depot preparations , it does mean they are made to remain in your body long time...Some endos believe that the accumulation of testosterone in the body is the main cause of the side effects (water ritention,high estrogen, axis suppression , etc.etc.). I agree that gel and tablets can suppress the gonads/hypothalamus too, but, as I said before, they are both more manageable than vials because they have a short duration. No accumulation with gel or tablets.

I sugggest anyone going to real hospytal instead of wasting money in clinics. Hormonal blood test are not easy to do , they require special machines with expensive chemical reagents working at low temperature . Considering the high temperature here and the lack of professionalism , I bet that most of the blood test the clinics perform are fake.

An finally...To get your real hormonal situation you should do : SHBG (Sex hormone-binding globulin), Free testosterone (Total testosterone is useless), 17B estradiol , prolactin, and of course FSH and LH .

The cost will be more and more than 800 baht..trust me.

It's ridiculos listening people who thinks that a Testosterone/Estrogen test is enough....

There is no roller coaster of T levels if you inject once a week. Only if you attempt to get by on one shot every 2-4 weeks which seems common practice here.

Estrogen can be dealt with by 1 or 2mg of arimidex per week. High estrogen while on TRT is super common.

Once a week is definetely too much for me, I've tried, my estrogen levels go too high and I got gyno .

In my opinion vials suppress the axis much more than gel or capsules, that the reason why so many endos suggest to integrate Testo shots with HCG + Anti estrogens + DHEA + Androstenedione, etc.etc.

I'm ok with gel and/or capsules. I don't want use all these stuffs... Arimidex is dangerous, it can decrease your estrogen over the limit (very low estrogen = no libido) , it's very expensive and finally, when you're on TRT , the less you take the better it is....

Here's some interesting publications by one of the best TRT specialist , Dr. John Crisler.

http://www.drdach.com/John_Crisler_on__HCG.html

Anyway inbangkok, what really matters at the end is how you feel...If you're ok with vials therapy , keep doing it , we all react to drugs differently.

Hi everybody,

Anyone had experience with Thai Embassy in KL ?

Right now I'm in Thailand with a Tourist Visa (double entry 6 months) wich will expire next month. To get another tourist visa (single entry) , an agency in Bangkok offered me a trip to Laos with minivan (12 hours run and 3 days there) wich I'd like to avoid... I was thinking to buy a ticket to Kuala Lumpur and try to get my new tourist visa there but the one milion dollar question is : Will KL Thai Embassy give it to me ? I had some bad experience in Singapore where I found the Thai embassy staff very unfriendly with foreigners .

I tried to call the KL Thai Embassy but in vain....Only voice mail. I don't want to risk to go there for nothing.

If not KL where else I could go ?

Any suggestion will be very appreciate it.

Jonny.

In my opinion the best testosterone choice for antiging therapy is gel . It is more manageable than vials. When you use injections you might experience the "roller coaster" syndrome, wich means your test.level goes up and down, plus it wil shrink your testicles badly.

In my case, injections increase estrogen badly , not happen with gel or capsules (Andriol).

Gel in Thailand is available in Hospytal with prescription and it's quite expensive, while Andriol capsules is on every pharmacy .

Some pharmacies sell kind of underground Testosterone gel . I strongly suggest not to use it. It's fake , while vials (like Testoviron, or Testolic, etc.) are real.

So, if you go for vials or capsules (Andriol) you don't need to go to the Hospytal, you can get to pharmacy , I suggest real brand like Testoviron 250 from Bayer Shering or Sustanon , while if you need gel , you need to go to Hospytal. I hope soon Testosterone gel will be avaialable in pharmacies as well.