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Fantastic, cheers.

^ Great, that is exactly what I wanted to read, THANK YOU so much Ubon Joe.

But won't the Thai immigration want a deposit into bank account info for an extension?

And if not, if an affidavit is acceptable, wouldn't it need to be within 30 days? The affidavit would be over 90 days old at time of extension

Apologies if this is a repeat ad nauseaum of info out there- I did searches but info was not what I needed.

Thanks in advance for any replies.

I would like to know what docs I will need to apply for the retirement visa, (or O- whatever it is called.) I am over 50.

1) More specifically can I use an notarized income verification from my embassy to apply, and then worry about bank balances when I go to get an extension?

2 ) And what is the minimum monthly income needed?

3) Is there a link to the application doc for Penang, specifically?

4) The initial "visa" is good for 90 days, correct? Then I apply for extensions at my local immigration?

Okay, you wants facts

8 years here. 5 years on Tourist Visas and 3 years on Educations Visas. Never refused entry and extend my visa every 60 days. I can speak Thai to a standard level.

Friend of mine here for 17 years. Three years on a marriage Visa and wife is killed in a motorcycle accident. Two years then on a Education Visa and the last 12 years on double entry Tourist Visas with a break every now and again in a friendly country. Never refused entry.

Another gay friend of mine here for 7 years on Tourist visas. Never refused entry.

Seems that the METV will mean going home in the future and fore-filling the requirements that will be posted at each Consulate. This is not in concrete yet but in all odds, it looks like it is heading this way.

Thank you.

Can I ask. What are you or your friends going to do now though. Seeing as for years you've used double entry and now it's basically going to be abolished ...

Assuming you won't be paying 1000 dollars for a trip home to apply for a new visa every 6 months ...?

Not much comfort but the METV should be good for 9 months. If you enter at the end of 6 months you'll get another 60 day stay which can be extended by 30 days.

^ Where are you getting this information, please?

Is it a FACT one can only get the new METV from home country ?

I trred calling the Ministry of foreign affairs a few months back as directed by the local immigration office with a question about the tourist visa application form.

Hung up on repeatedly passed around, hung up on again, the level of English was pathetic, you think a ministry of foreign affairs would have English speaking staff answering the phones.

Finally got a woman with competent English but she was unable to provide me with any info about the form

How is this nation going to compete and provide service to all the English speaking professionals when the AEC doors open in about 2 months ?

You might have come here because you were poor and couldn't get laid. Don't tar the rest of us with that brush, please.

I beg to differ with you are a Farang in Thailand. And remember the Thais do not care what you think

Also they do not care what the ambassador of your country thinks about Thailand

Is that why a bunch of hard line conservatives recently had themselves a little action at the US embassy? ( A protest that was in violation of the law but since they support the junta... )

Care? No. But it's worth watching whether Thai-tanic's butt end will keep going up up up... preparing for that final dive into the cold, black depths,...

or will her corroded keel just snap and leave the nation wallowing in halves, forever adrift in an icy sea ?

Phuket immigration will want this form completed and singed.

Thank you very much, helpful as always.

As the owner is out of the country, not responding to emails can I fill this out as " housemaster " ?

As apparently I've never had a TM 30 filled out, just never got done is it wise to let them on to it- why create a situation they may check? I can see a nightmare situation of years of daily fines

So I'm thinking a copy of the lease will be oK as this is for a tourist visa extension. I'm on a new passport so might get away with it.

Also have read elsewhere something about registering at police station? Is this an option?

That form is Phuket's equivalent of a TM30 form.

If you have a copy of the lease they may let you sign the form.

There will be no fine for the ones you did not do and there is no daily fine. The max fine is 2000 baht.

Immigration will want the report done to them. Most police station will not even accept them.

Ok thank you but the whole problem I'm having is the lease expired a year ago, and the landlord is incommunicado, traveling in Europe or somewhere.

However, putting aside the visa questions, I meant register the address with police before I go to immigration. Isn't that an alternative method of registering the residence?

My thought being the police are less likely to be concerned with dates last entered or expiry date on leases or missing prior TM 30.

Then my address is already registered.

Phuket immigration will want this form completed and singed.

Thank you very much, helpful as always.

As the owner is out of the country, not responding to emails can I fill this out as " housemaster " ?

As apparently I've never had a TM 30 filled out, just never got done is it wise to let them on to it- why create a situation they may check? I can see a nightmare situation of years of daily fines

So I'm thinking a copy of the lease will be oK as this is for a tourist visa extension. I'm on a new passport so might get away with it.

Also have read elsewhere something about registering at police station? Is this an option?

With the form TM.30, immigration asks the house master ie "any persons who is the chief possessor of a house, whether in the capacity of owner, tenant, or in any other capacity whatsoever, in accordance with the law on people act" to notify only the arrival of a foreigner, not also his departure. It is going to be interesting to see how this stricter enforcement of of this notification requirement for house masters of private residences will play out.

So I'm the house master as I lease the house? Oh dear, 4 years and never made such a report, I thought the adress I entered on the arrival form was sufficient.

What do do? Now I'm on my first tourist entry wanting to make a 30 day extension I'm still at same address.

On this subject, please-I'm on a 60 day TV looking to get a 30 day extension

I have an expired lease, in Thai and an absent landlord with no way to contact him.

I have a DL with the address, but an old passport number. (Not wanting to go down that separate hassle road update to but will consider it as option )

Can I go to the police station and get what I need as far as residence verification?

and/ or Do I need a TM 30 form? And/ or if so , can I fill it out ? Will I have a hassle about the expired date.

Maybe just pen in a new date and forge the signature which is just a scribble. I do have the owner ID and house book copies

Thank you

^ Thank you for that response.

I actually have a 5 year Thai Driver's license with the address BUT it has an old passport number. Might be a option to get that changes, but will need etc etc etc ? ...... It just never ever stops

I'm also concerned they will use this to wonder why i have a DL but am on a tourist visa, I suppose "I'm looking for a new job" could explain that. Of course do I then open myself up to having an inappropriate visa?

....It just never stops...

A suggestion I saw on the recent 90 day report problem thread is to just check into a cheap hotel.

Oh no, I need to do a 30 day extension a single entry in the next couple of weeks but don't have a lease for the house I rent, just on my word, I do have a driver's license but it has a past passport number.

I'll be extending in Phuket

I've just read on a more current thread some kind of proof of address might be needed.

I stay in a private home I lease

I do have a driver's license with that address on it, but with a past passport number - another problem ?

Maybe best not to present it plus it will reveal my former status living here on a B which may be another problem ,

The lease has long expired and it is just on your word type of arrangement now.

Any suggestions?

I know an older Western man who just died. He had a gay lover of 25 years. Guess who will get all of his money, property, and possessions? Not the man who cared for him! The man who loving nursed him through cancer and alzmehier's. His irish family is coming right over after not seeing him for 25 years to get the condo and bank accounts and everything else the couple worked for together. This is the reason gay marriage is needed. It is not so much the emotional, it is the legal rights that are needed. If they had been married the family that deserted this poor man 25 years ago would not be getting jack shit. And believe me they would not visit Thailand to see his grave or mourn! Greedy bastards!

Rubbish. He could have been clever enough to have a will. He also had a myriad of ways to compensate his partner prior to death. Don't blame the law, your friend is an idiot.

And as for the family coming right over and grabbing the condo, lol. That is gonna be an expensive nightmare for that family cuz your friend is an idiot.

They will have one year to sell it, but the situation would be the same if it had been a female partner, no will, and the family gets the goods.

Marriage is a patriarchal religious based constraint meant to keep women at service to men. Most married men are happy with their personal servants, most women are not pleased with their subserviant role

( except Asian chicks who are taught independence and self reliance are unattractive traits and marrying will save their lives )

Why anyone would tie themselves- upon pain of asset loss- to the same boring lay for decades is beyond me. I say get rid of it completely.

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Do not listen the staff member she would not know her ass from her face honestly

She just did not want make it easy for you

bad attitudes and ) service is the way they roll... But are happy to take the baht

Every office is different

Every office is different

There are a few things that can irritate a Farang in this country, but this must be the "Main-Irritaton" for every Farang living here.

- Why can immigration not function under a centralized "Head-Immigration-Authority", that issues laws and regulations, that are binding for every Immigration office? Local Immigration "Chieftains", still insisting on ruling their little Kingdom by intuition, astrological constellations or simply by occasional mood-swings, would be dismissed.

So, to every advice given here, there should automatically be a "disclaimer" attached, like "This advice concerns Immigration Office XXX. For Immigration Office YYY, this advice may not be complete/accurate".

A sad state of affairs.

Cheers.

Because this is how they scam you. What's really needed are a few videos taken with indiscreet spy cameras posted on a dedicated face book page.

I often wear shorts to CW and when I do, I sports wrap my knee and fake a tiny limp.

Next time I'll include a walking cane to the charade.

I suggest an eyepatch, maybe work in a few weeping sores.

What's next from immigration to show the lowly honky who's boss- flaming hoops? Oh wait...

I heard there is some sort of Visa I can get, where I say that I'm in Thailand looking for investment opportunities. I can show proof of having $X in a bank account in Canada.. (I'd temporarily borrow it from family, and park it in an account in my name for however long is necessary)

Also, I have non Thai family who owns condos here if that changes anything.. I could get it put in my name, to show I have assets etc..

10 MILLION Bht will secure an investment visa but it has to be your money.

Trying to scam/pretend to own something you do not is doomed to failure!

I have now finished contributing to this troll tread.

I don't see how that is scamming or pretending.. I can have someone happily give ownership of 10 million baht to me. I will then happily give ownership of the 10 million baht back to them at a later date.

Legally, I do own the 10 million baht for a certain period of time which is what the Thai government wants to see.

I don't even see how one would consider this immoral, let alone illegal.. it's a legal business transaction conducted to achieve a desired outcome, which is for the Thai government to see that I have ownership of 10 million baht at the time of application, until I no longer need the desired visa.

The money has to be in a fixed deposit CD and has to stay there the entire length of the visa's validity.

Taking it out voids the visa.

Also, back when I had one of these, ( and they were only 3 million) the money had to transferred in from out of the country. Not sure if this is still a requirement.

You really only need one Thai employee for a WP and B visa but

1) you'll have exit Thailand to do 90 day border stamp runs ( never have figured out why you have to do this when you have a 1 year visa, and a 1 year work permit, just another annoyance immigration seems to delight in subjecting " farang" to.

2)and get a new B visa every year. Enter just before the expiry and get 15 months out of it.

3) You'll need 9 month validity on the WP to get that new B ( in Penang ) so time it right .

The 4 worker requirement is for 1 year extensions on the B which eliminates the 90 day border stamp runs.

I have found Thai post to be very expensive and time consuming on a 2 kilo shipment to Malaysia ( like 3 months ) so would rather not go with them again in this cross Thailand shipment

Please recommend a courier, it need not be express, but reasonably priced and reliable for a cross Thailand shipment .

Thanks in advance

How near to the expiration date can I get a 30 extension on a Single entry 60 day tourist visa? Can I get a re entry at the same time and would it cover the extension? Does this vary office to office ?

Thanks in advance

• You should be able to apply within the last couple of weeks at any office.
• As soon as the extension is given you can apply for a re-entry permit to cover that extended stay.

Thank you for this reply

So getting a re entry would not cover any extension ?

Do they want to see onward travel plans?

How near to the expiration date can I get a 30 extension on a Single entry 60 day tourist visa? Can I get a re entry at the same time and would it cover the extension? Does this vary office to office ?

Thanks in advance

Avoiding the usual agent sites, I'm having a bit of a problem getting info on working as an instructor in Penang. Any links to govt sites or experiences getting a work permit are appreciated.

Here is link to docs on the KL Embassy website in case anyone else is looking

http://www.thaiembassy.org/kualalumpur/th/services/976

Too late to edit this above but note is application for KL Embassy ONLY not Penang