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12 minutes ago, thailand49 said:Another bet won this is getting so easy!????
If your bet was July 1 not happening...you probably lost. This is fake news created by ThaiVisa.
PM just confirmed again July 1 in last hour
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1 hour ago, habuspasha said:Please say where you read this.
You can read for yourself what was really said here.
So yes this is textbook example of fake news, Thai visa changed title, took out where minister says July 1 is still on for Phuket and then misrepresented that he was really talking about Phuket-Samui sealed route.
Same minister has been in multiple other industry meetings today saying July 1 is still on
If TV admins had any self respect would delete this article with an public apology
Edit: And in last hour PM also confirmed on facebook that July 1 is still a go
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2 hours ago, Sydebolle said:
In a today's article on Thaivisa it is stated, that there was not a single taker in China for yet another visa type. Seems to be much closer to reality and truth .........
Post is carrying same news though they are burying it halfway down an article with a headline title of "Chinese are coming".
BP are really into pushing the STV and playing down the screwups, they did not even mention the failure to arrive on the 8th until the 9th even though was confirmed not happening days before and that they also buried as a 'btw' in the middle of another article.
Definatly trying to save someone from international embarrassment as they are most sourced paper internationally
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Simple fact TAT should have nothing to do with reopening borders and visas, they are a marketing department, nothing more.
But even worse, all these plans are TAT working with Health and CAAT (otherwise known as Anutin and the Bhumjaithai Party) and neither of them should have anything to do with borders and visas either, its the terminally blind leading the perpetually stupid, only question at any given moment is who is the latter and who is the former.
This trio have abused their authority (especially CAAT) to shut down the borders but they are obviously totally clueless how to reopen.
Time for them to step aside, reinstate normal flights and leave it to interior and Foriegn affairs to decide borders and visas.
CAAT should go back to regulating airline safety, TAT should just <deleted> until someone tells them to promote something and health just stick to deciding quarantine rules (how about making serious effort to increase ASQs? After all these months amount is shameful, should be at least 4 times more capacity)
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16 hours ago, Unify said:
A report I read this morning (I don't remember where), said 3 Danish, and two Chinese from Wuhan. No timetable, but it's obvious they were not telling the truth.
One of chinese is most likely from early Feb, people have been noticing a discrepancy from that period in regards to the infected lists provided by BKK for about two weeks now
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1 hour ago, stevenl said:
No. See your link, in English is legal. I agree that an IDP prevents problems, and yes, for a motorbike or even scooter a full motorbike license is required.
From the link
"Foreigners wanting to drive in Thailand – but do not yet have a Thai driver’s license – must hold an “International Driving Permit” (IDP) issued in their home country."
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"That means any person wanting to drive in Thailand by using a driver’s license not issued in Thailand – and especially those not issued in English -- must have BOTH a valid license issued in their home country AND an IDP in order to legally drive in Thailand."
Chutinan Jindachuea, Chief, License Division, Phuket Provincial Transport Office.
"In short, if you don’t want to be fined for driving illegally while on holiday here, get an IDP from your home country before getting on the plane."
– Lt Surapong Phuhgrom, Inspector, Kathu Traffic Police.
You can deny it all you want but your opinion does really not matter, the law does. These are the rules/laws you will be fined under (and clauses to have your insurance payout denied in case of accident). Good luck arguing with cops or insurance
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2 minutes ago, stevenl said:
"Foreign drivers licence with no IDP was never actually legal anyway."
Provided in English and with photo they are valid.
Not by law, just for years most cops would accept licences in English without IDP, now in Patong they don't anymore.
Another thing that burns people, many country's have an "allowance" on car licence for bikes up to certain CC. Thailand does not that such an allowance, which is why both your home licence and IDP have to be specifically endorsed for bikes.
Also if here long term, after 60 days on tourist visa and 90 days on Non Imm visas, you are meant to get a Thai drivers licence.
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On 2/9/2020 at 1:11 PM, xylophone said:
Was told by a friend, so cannot confirm it first hand, that now if farangs are stopped, they have to show either a Thai driving licence or an international driving licence, whereas a licence issued in their own country is now not accepted.
Foreign drivers licence with no IDP was never actually legal anyway.
As to the stops themselves. Ones near Bangla always target foreigners, but ones away from Bangla (have one regularly near my house) ignore farang and target either Thais and/or Burmese
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1 hour ago, thesetat2013 said:
This British man may not have the infection. But the BBC is reporting their are already cases of this Corona virus in Thailand. So be careful
There have been two cases reported by Thai gov afaik, both Chinese, both from Wuhan, detected by airport screening.
And USA got it first case today, again someone who had been in Wuhan
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4 hours ago, ukrules said:
Every news article published from Thailand says he doesn't have this coronavirus, then there's this :
and this among others
Influenza doesn't generally do this to younger people
If there is ever an outbreak of something very nasty they will 100% lie about it happening until it later becomes obvious that it's actually happening.
I'm not saying that it is but that's what they would do.....
The two links provided are just regurgitating The Sun's article with no independent verification, and if you know anything about the UK press you know The Sun cannot be trusted to tell you what day of the week it is.
Even if you did not know that, the timeline was all off, this guy got sick at Christmas, when the virus outbreak was just starting in China, he would not have been just first in Thailand (nearly 3 weeks before first official case) but also one of first in the world to contract it, all without going near the "hot zone"
Always be careful when you see many articles about something from different sources but all the articles are near identical, it generally means there is just one source and rest are copies without verification
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5 hours ago, fred4272 said:
@ubonjoe Extensions for ED visa are every 60 days now.
Maybe dependant in where you are but Phuket is still 90 days
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40 minutes ago, BritTim said:
or if immigration will suddenly decide to chase housemasters themselves rather than put the onus on the foreigner.
Actually that's exactly what Phuket immigration officially changed to just about a week ago.
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50 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:
All you have to do is read the immigration act.
Section 37 is for address reporting which is a TM28 form.
Section 38 is for reporting of your residence using a TM30 form.
Yet the whole issue over last few months is they were using TM30 as an temporary address update and residence form combined. Hence the <deleted> of you go stay overnight elsewhere and then either you or landlord had to do it all over again. Your legal residence does not change if you go on holiday.
While early days highly optimistic this is them walking back whole thing in typical Thai manner, first they misapplied the law and then after fightback repeal wrong law to make whole thing go away
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13 minutes ago, ThomasThBKK said:
Nah its not, it's decent value for money. Prolly the cheapest long term visa thing you can buy in the world, tell me one other country where i can get a 20 year visa with certain bonuses for only 30k USD?
None afaik, but most countrys are not just outright selling visas but with majority if you actually invest (buy a house, start a buisness so forth) in the country not only can you get a visa but also a path to citizenship and unless you make bad choices that is money you get back if/when you leave.
In upfront costs elite looks cheap, in long term it can be very expensive
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3 hours ago, JamJar said:
Then they aren't nomads.
A member of a people that travels from place to place to find fresh pasture for its animals and has no permanent home.
A person who does not stay long in the same place; a wanderer.
You are arguing semantics.
Yes they are not technically nomads as not moving around enough but there is no popular term for online/remote workers who can work anywhere but decide to mainly stay in one foreign country so people just lump them under the digital nomad title because, job wise, they can move tomorrow with no impact to their job/career
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3 hours ago, jackdd said:
probably just switch to METV if they intend to spend most of their time in Thailand.
If you had been following reports would know even some METV holders have been getting denied entry lately and some embassies are only issuing one.
In some provinces they are also limiting how many ED visas you can get
Only reasonably secure long stay methods for under 50s now are, elite, marriage or working for thai registered company. And can see crackdown/changes for last two down the road
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Well if Vientiane really is limiting people to one TV a year can see a few things happening.
Most immediate will be huge drop of visitors to Vientiane,, so large income loss there (both at embassy and town), would not want to be Thai consul/ambassador there as lot of people are going to be very pissed at them. Can see many hotels and bars going up for sale soon.
A non obvious side effect will be drop in Thai arrivals/tourist numbers as they have been counting visa runners in those stats.
The language schools in Thailand will see a boost in enrollments (and prices going up)...until they start cracking down on them again (which they will).
Visa run companys will start shutting down and a lot of Filipino hotel staff will have to leave thailand (if been to VT over last few years easy to see they account for about 40% of people getting TVs)
Over next 6 to 12 months will be sharp drop in under 50s staying in Thailand, even if they can afford the schools many don't want the hassle unless its a pure visa mill.
A plus side effect is they really will get rid of all the young people really working low end jobs (there are a lot in places like Phuket and the smaller Islands) or the just surviving DN's up north as they will not be able to afford the ED route.
Will be small increase of elite sign ups but only a small one. Most people who are willing to pay 500000 already did,
Many others can afford it but feel need to be sure they are staying for 5 years to know getting value for money and people that are that sure are few and far between.
If they really want to boost revenue from elite only way now would be a no frills 1 year version at aprox 100k. (And if you cannot afford 100k a year you really are not bringing much benefit to Thailand anyway).
If they don't change elite or remove age restriction on "retirement" visas or come up with some type foreign sourced income visa can foresee a 50 to 80% drop in long stay foriegners under 50 (excluding teachers) over next two years, with bulk of the remaining 20% concentrated around BKK working for multinationals.
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Just ask in your local beer bar where to get them locally, owners regularly have to replace lost dice. Same with cards, though in tourist areas seen those even in 7-11/family
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The big winners are Bangkok Bank (Union Pay), Central Group etc and let me point it out once again the Chinese spend far more then what the average farang spends in this country.
Presume you are basing that on figures that TAT keep quoting over last year to justify their Chinese push?
If you just scratch the surface of those figures, they are not just questionable but downright bullshit (especially if you talk to business owners)
First: It's based on a survey at the Airport, this alone makes it doubtful (surveyors can target particular groups/nationalities, for examples western young 20 something backpackers/full mooners vs well dressed upper middle class Chinese to get results their bosses want)
Second: The questions themselves are vague and open to many interpretations. For example, the principal question they ask people that they use claim that Chinese spend more, is basically "How much you spent per day?", Now even putting aside truthfulness/face saving (which would be foolish) Some will divide total holiday cost by days, some will exclude/include hotel/flights,others will only include their personal expenditure, others especially if main money earner will include their whole family in their estimate and every other member will give same answer, many other interpretations as well
Third: It's spend per day. Average Chinese spends week or less in Thailand, average westerner two to 3 weeks. So even if average western spend per day was half of the Chinese, westerners would still be contributing more to the economy per person/trip
And lastly and most importantly, the little fact that makes whole "fact" bullshit
They claim average Chinese spends 5500 baht per day per person. As you have probably noticed they are mainly family groups, so lets say 4 people per unit. That's over 20,000 per day per family. 140,000 per week....Yeah, sure, right, they are spending that
To put numbers in perspective: Chinese upper middle-class (which most of these Chinese are most definitely are not) households have income of about $16,000 to $34,000 USD per annum, so they are claiming they are spending 11% to 25% of their total annual income per week in thailand
The simple truth is Thai's really have no idea who spends most but my personal experience says Chinese might spend bit more per day, but as they spend half the time or less compared to westerners so per trip they only bring in half the revenue or less per person, this conclusion also matches figures TAT released around 2012.
But what they do know is because of way Chinese travel (tour groups) the big men can control where they spend that money (in their own shops, tours so forth) instead of the money getting spread around and those in charge like that very much.
Don't get me wrong, there is without doubt many big (even mega) spending Chinese (and Russian, Indian, Arab) tourists in the world and they make even rich westerners look like cheep charlies one step away from being homeless (just look at London, Paris, NYC and many European beach destinations) but Thailand does not see many of them. For those markets Thailand is a destination of choice for the cheap, mass market tourist, and why would the rich and successful types want to rub shoulders with those unwashed masses?
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Do you think that people automatically to have the right to rock-up to a place and decide, hey, I'm staying here as long as I want to!! no I'm not going to work, study, volunteer or be a tourist, have any connections to the country such as a wife/husband or child, but I'm d @mn well staying as long as I want!
The sheer arrogance on display is staggering.
Everyday single pensioners (with a small pension at that) or old sex pats "rock-up" on these shores and are welcomed with open arms fall into that description
Yet under 50, bringing in multitudes more cash into local economy...go home?
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Can somebody confirm, with something besides what somebody said to somebody at CW, that SETV, double-entry and triple-entry tourist visas will all be discontinued after13 NOV in conjunction with the new METV? When I first heard about the METV, I sort of suspected this was actually the real agenda, but as of late last month at least two Honorary Consulates I know of had absolutely no awareness of the discontinuation of the old TV options, just the new METV. (Of course triple-entries have been getting harder & harder to get in recent years, and in some places even the double-entry hasn't been possible.)
Not a huge deal for me one way or the other. Just wondering if there's anything official.
SETV is unaffected
Nearly every embassy announcement about METV has also announced withdrawal of double-entry and triple-entry tourist visas (latter if they still issued them)
Some examples
http://thaiembdc.org/tourist-visa-category-tr-multiple-metv/
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Why do so many Westerners feel that they have some sort of birth-right to just rock up to a country and stay there as long as they want?
Thailand is fantastic,, visa wise, If you don't fit into one of the many, many categories (there is pretty much a category for everyone!), then leave as you have no right to be here.
Under 50, single, not working, unsure how long will be here.
Which visa?
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Is the Elite card out of financial reach?
I would think that 500.000 Baht every five years would be out of financial reach for the vast majority of under fifties.
Especially when there is no return for it.
Even if it is within the financial reach, for many it is a bad option as it's a fee for 5 years coverage when most not 100% sure what doing in next 6 months.
Yes the tourist visas have been abused for years by long term stayers but for many under 50 that is because of one limiting requirement on the Non-Immigrant O-A visa that really makes no sense, the age requirement.
An over 50 with a pension of 65k is more desirable than someone under that age with income 5 times more, why?
Really the only ways to solve this is give a 1 year option on the elite (100k per year) or remove the age requirement on the other visas.
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Yes, you can get a 30 day extension on a visa exemption entry in Patong immigrationn office
Tourism officials say domestic visitors making up bulk of Songkran tourists
in Thailand News
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You do realise those spend figures are provided by TAT and are pure politically motivated fiction? Just look at Lao spend for example 5502b per day/$870 per trip? from a country where average GDP per capita is just under $3000 per year?!?
Or if you compare chinese spend (6118b per day or $1536 per trip) to what it's regional competitors ( Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia/bali) say Chinese spend ($800 to $1000) Thai figures range from 50 to 100% higher for no real reason (and really we all know the tour group Chinese, which untill covid were the majority of chinese visitors, were spending no where close to that).
Even the western figures are wacky, like average spend of Swiss vs Spain being nearly the same? Highly unlikely