mesquite

4 minutes ago, Skywalker69 said:

Did you bother to check the other links?

None of the links led to any possible reason for Trump to be impeached.

9 minutes ago, Meljames said:

That's a copy and paste from White House.gov.(WhiteHouse.gov) My question was directed to you personally not the WH. Precisely what has Trump done that you support and shown the qualities that you look to in a a leader.

 

As far as your list goes, I could easily paste something from WAPO or NYT or CNN that refutes it. That's not a discussion though is it; just a battle of who can Google the best written article to prove their point.

 

 

 

 

Your question was, "Can you show some of the things Trump's done since taking the oath that shows he's a skilled political leader and is moving the US forward? "  which I answered and now I am done with that. 

Back to the topic.

Trump will not be impeached or forced to resign as the poll results show and in fact the Trump will not be impeached or resign position has grown since the poll was reopened.

Still waiting for that evidence of criminal conduct.  A case number and disposition (as in guilty) is all we need.  Or proof that Trump was incarcerated like Rod Blagojevich or Ray Nagin as I pointed out.

All we need is one conviction and then we can shout from the rooftops that Trump is a criminal, without looking like complete morons.

Someone, anyone, please, give us that one criminal conviction.

9 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

 

 

This guy is hilarious!

4 minutes ago, Meljames said:

 

I was a very much against GWB and his methods used for the Iraq invasion. At the time there were   intelligent discussions and arguments by people on forums etc, supporting him in the invasion. Although I never came around to their side of things, I accepted their view point and respected their opinions; many of them anyway.

 

I've yet to hear any Trump supporter put forth any argument or opinion based on reason or fact. The discussions devolve quickly into school yard mentality of 'yeah but, he started it' or 'I know you are but what am I?'So now you've decided you can't win;why try and you want to take your ball and go home.

 

In truly shows how you have based your decision for this election not on research or information gathered through the news but the basest of emotions.  Odd thing is in the end the one you've voted for is working against your best interest. Unless of course, seeing the Trump business' net worth go up in value is what you're hoping for.

 

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Maybe you ought to start reading the posts.

7 hours ago, mesquite said:

Hilarious.  If Trump had led a "sordid, criminal life" NBC would have fired him years ago.

It's past time to get used to President Trump.  He will be around for 7 years, 4 months more.

6 hours ago, iReason said:

 

Hysterical!

Stellar example of an acolyte once again displaying foot in mouth syndrome.

Well done!

 

NBC Officially Fires Donald Trump From ‘Celebrity Apprentice’

"BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. — NBC entertainment chairman, Bob Greenblatt, had two words Thursday on whether Republican presidential hopeful Donald Trump would ever return as host of "The Celebrity Apprentice:" Absolutely not."

 

"Greenblatt said that the show will not be back next season, but will return in the future with a new host."

 

"NBC cut ties with Trump in June days after he made critical comments about Mexican immigrants and NBC canceled its airing of the Miss USA pageant, which Univision also decided not to air."

https://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/tv/nbc-officially-fires-trump-celebrity-apprentice-n409381

 

 

Donald Trump’s All-Consuming Obsession with TV Ratings: A History

"It started with The Apprentice, which Trump claimed was the No. 1 show on TV for years after it stopped cracking the top 20."

 

"At the entrance to Mar-a-Lago, a framed printout of a TV Guide ratings chart decorates the wall,

showing The Apprentice at No. 1."

 

"It’s an old chart, citing just one episode’s performance—the Donald Trump–hosted reality show was the seventh-most-watched program on television in its first year, but didn’t even crack the Top 10 in subsequent seasons."

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2017/01/donald-trump-ratings

 

"one episode’s performance"

Just another in a long history of LIES.

 

In your haste to fawn, you forgot #MAGA!

 

P.S. You really should do your research on his well documented, sordid, criminal underworld associated life.

Well documented on this very thread in fact. 

Do you ever read the stuff you post?  Sure Trump was fired after he became a candidate for president, for political reasons!  Again, where is the evidence of Trump's criminal record?  Convictions, dates, offenses.  There are none.  Trump has NO criminal record.  He is not a criminal.

Maybe it's time to start dealing in facts.  And the facts are at the end of the day Trump got 304 electoral votes and Clinton got 227.  Trump won.  And that is the main issue with the Trump haters here.  Everything else stems from that.

5 hours ago, Meljames said:

 

At this point in the game the only 'argument' for Trump is to rebuff any statements against his qualifications or fitness to hold office. You're correct he hasn't any convictions, but this is only a rebuff.  Having no convictions is not a qualification for leadership and speaks nothing to his character or ability to hold office, especially since his business(es) have been involved in over 3500 lawsuits and other cases of litigation. Not to mention major ongoing criminal investigations.

 

If you're a true supporter; instead of being on the constant defense how about putting forth an argument to persuade people to also become supporters, or at least some hard facts showing his abilities and real achievements as leader. Several months ago this would have been a somewhat easy task, as he had some good rhetoric and juxtaposed to Hilary he seemed like a reasonable alternative.

 

In fighting terms, you're against the ropes throwing weak punches. 

Please read the thread.  My comment that Trump has no criminal record was in response to a post that said Trump had lived a sordid and criminal life.

Why should I try to persuade people here to "support" Trump?  Some, by their own admission, are ineligible to even vote in the US.  I don't see how any Trump supporter would be on the defense, as Trump is president, has been for 8 months.  There won't be another election for another 3 years or so.

3 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

Well, how about Bill O'Reilly?

I doubt if he will ever become president so the topic of his being impeached or forced to resign (from the presidency) doesn't apply to him.  I could be wrong, though.

25 minutes ago, mesquite said:

Hilarious.  If Trump had led a "sordid, criminal life" NBC would have fired him years ago.

It's past time to get used to President Trump.  He will be around for 7 years, 4 months more.

17 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

That's like saying if Roger Ailes was an abusive boss, Fox would have fired him years ago.

No it isn't.  Ailes was a founder and one time CEO of Fox.  Trump was an NBC employee.  It's more like Fox firing Bill O'Reilly for sexual harrassment, which they did.

BTW do you or anyone else have a link to any of Trump's criminal convictions?  I can't find any.

7 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Colbert is God.

... and a genius. 

Just make sure they are REAL girls, if you know what I mean, and I think you do.

7 minutes ago, Slip said:

I can't see why.  The swamp was in very poor shape until Trump came along.  He has refilled it with stagnant filth, disgusting mud, and slimy swamp monsters in short order.  The swamp should LOVE Trump.  Trump IS the swamp.  OF course DC itself is not the swamp. It's a metaphor. The swamp is self-serving, hypocritical, lying scum-bags like wait for it Trump, Stone, Manafort, Kuschner, Bannon, all the little Trumps et al. 

You forgot Pelosi. 

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

D.C was built on a swamp. Drained long ago. By slaves.

Tell that to Nancy Pelosi.

"...Nancy Pelosi is thinking 100 hours, time enough, she says, to begin to 'drain the swamp' after more than a decade of Republican rule. "

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/06/AR2006100600056.html

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

Touched a nerve huh?
Of course the clown potus will never hold one of his trademark racist Mussolini style rallies anywhere near D. C. He's mostly despised there.

No nerve touched.  See my other comment about Trump and the swamp

17 minutes ago, iReason said:

 

It's quite apparent, neither did the 1 Million hoped for attendees for the Mother of all Rallies,

The Woodstock of Rallies.

The ever shrinking minority grandly illustrated. 

Kind of like the 270 hoped for electoral votes that Hillary didn't get for the Mother of all Presidential Elections.

BTW, impeachment does not depend on the size of one rally.  (That is the topic.)

2 hours ago, Thakkar said:

 

The metal barriers are there to hold back all the ennui.

 

T

Gee, the swamp doesn't like him.

I hope this is the right forum.  I live in Chiang Mai and see a lot of Bangkok license plates.  People have given me several reasons for this, things like people from Bangkok are moving to Chiang Mai, or they live in both places, etc.  One Thai person told me that they can get better prices by purchasing the car in Bangkok.  I'm looking to buy a new car and wonder if going to Bangkok to buy it would result in a better price.

Any thoughts?

2 hours ago, retarius said:

Old news but depressing as usual/

Only a few hours old.

It's all a bit tricky.  From what I've observed, most westerners are incapable of assessing their own Thai language ability.  They *think* they speak Thai.  I have friends and acquaintances who think they speak Thai, but their pronunciation is so poor they are not understandable.  The Thais will politely say your Thai is not clear, that is if they don't want money out of you.

To compound the problem, a long term Thai partner will eventually figure out what the westerner is trying to say and will understand.  So we have the issue, "But my Thai wife understands me."  And of course the standard Thai line "You speak Thai good," said in Thai, when there is a possibility of money flowing from the westerner to the Thai person.

Suggest finding a one on one tutor who is not afraid to tell you what you don't want to hear and of course speaking Thai as often as possible with as many Thai people as possible.

1 hour ago, iReason said:

 

Don't be silly.

That has zero to do with this:

 

Investigating the White House and it's associates are:

The F.B.I.

The House and Senate Intelligence Committees

The Senate Judiciary and House Oversight and Government Reform Committees

The Department of Justice with Special Counsel Mueller

New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman along with the I.R.S. financial crimes unit

The Central Intelligence Agency

The National Security Agency

The Treasury Department

And the Grand Juries in Virginia and D.C.

 

In the case of Michael Flynn, the Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency,

and the Treasury Department, which also has a financial-crimes division are investigating him.

Grand Juries in Virginia and D.C. have been convened.

Federal prosecutors in eastern Virginia have already issued subpoenas to Flynn associates.

Another FBI target is Carter Page, one-time Trump campaign adviser on foreign-policy issues.

 

And the fact that the occupier of the White House' son admitted that he, along with Senior Advisor Jared Kushner and said occupier's campaign manager, Paul Manafort, held a clandestine meeting with agents from a foreign adversary, Russia.

 

 

P.S.

((((Aren't those the same polls that said Hillary would win?)))))

Nice list.  Wow, with all those agencies investigating, who's in charge, anyone coordinating all those investigations?  Sounds like a cluster you know what to me.  Except in fact it is a big nothing burger.

I notice Trump haters use lists to try to make their points.  I can see the Keith Idiot on GQ.com right now.  "Trump has people that hate him in all 50 states. There are people that hate him in Alaska, there are people that hate him in Arizona, there are people that hate him in Arkansas"...and on and on.

BTW, the guy who wasn't supposed to last a week is still in office, coming up on 8 months with no sign of leaving.

34 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

More like an attempt at bullying intimidation and trying to crush dissent. It will not work. trump is the most atrocious person to ever be elected president. The majority of Americans get that and will NEVER see him as fully legitimate or deserving of that high office. 

More like sore losers and not so sure it's the majority of Americans who believe that nonsense.

Some facts:

On Nov 8, 2016, Trump won 306 electoral votes, Clinton won 232.

In an effort to upend the election, several celebrities, wanna be celebrities, and God knows who else made an emotional appeal to the electoral college members to get them to vote against Trump.  As a result of this effort Trump did indeed lose some electoral votes when the EC met on Dec 19, 2 to be exact, leaving him with a total of 304.

HOWEVER, Clinton lost 5 electoral votes and ended up with 227.  In other words, the plan backfired.

The integrity of the system remained intact. 

On January 20, 2017, at 12 noon, Donald John Trump took the oath of office and became the 45th President of the United States.

These are the facts, and what appears to be a vocal minority simply cannot accept them.  This failure to accept reality has led to all sorts of hate and discontent, and is the basis for the various schemes to dislodge Trump. 

Some losses are hard to take, and this is apparently quite hard for many people.  The longer those people hold on, the more painful for them it is.  It's time to let it go.

7 hours ago, RobFord said:

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Trump supporter logic goes more like this:

Trump won the election.

Trump is president.

Get over it.

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

It's really obvious that the main reason people support trump isn't because they think he's even remotely qualified to be president but rather that him being president really seriously annoys people they hate. This is a kind of cold civil war. Hope it doesn't get hot.

wrong

17 minutes ago, iReason said:

 

That's about it.

And perhaps one or two others on these boards...

 

This may help to explain their condition:

 

Why People "Fly from Facts"

"Our new research, recently published in the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology,

examined a slippery way by which people get away from facts that contradict their beliefs."

 

"So after examining the power of untestable beliefs, what have we learned about dealing with human psychology?"

"We’ve learned that bias is a disease and to fight it we need a healthy treatment of facts and education."

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-people-fly-from-facts/

One or two others, eh?  There are two of them and mesquite!  LOL.

Facts?  Like the poll that we are commenting on that shows 54 to 46% that Trump will not be impeached or forced to resign?  Those kind of facts?

Maybe that 54 to 46 figure is not a fact.  Maybe the Russians hacked the poll! LOL

10 minutes ago, RobFord said:

 

5555. And who says so? You?


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Our fellow TV members say so.  See the current poll results, 54% to 46%.  Or as the card players say, "read 'em and weep."

2 hours ago, funandsuninbangkok said:

Hey!!!

 

Trump is still President !

 

235 days, 17 hours, 56 minutes and 45 seconds

 

And many more days to go. 

The poll topic is "Do you think Trump will be impeached or forced to resign?" and the answer is in the poll itself.  A significant majority of TV voters feel he will not be impeached or forced to resign, 54% to 46%.  Yet in reading the posts in this topic, you would think that Trump's impeachment was imminent.  In this topic we have a very vocal minority.

There were those who thought Trump would never be elected, and if elected would never be inaugurated, and would perhaps, if inaugurated, resign on day one because he supposedly ran as a joke and didn't really want to be president.  This type of delusional thinking continues.

Trump will be president for eight years, or until his death, whichever comes first.  Just as the other things the Trump haters wanted did not materialize, impeachment or forced resignation won't happen either.  Wishing won't make it so.