FMundeX

I have been waiting to see if there were any comments by anyone who was there that night

A fellow I know , claims he was

And that Jack was thrown out of another bar on the same Soi earlier that night for repeatedly 'dry humping' the waitresses

And that he was off his face on something , as were his friends

And that his group were way out of order , and all advised to go home by the management

But they didnt

He says that you only have to look at the debacle outside AFTER the assault to work out how trashed Jack and his group were

The fellow I know witnessed that as well

He says Jack was blacking out and coming to and lashing out at everyone

He even assaulted the paramedics who attended but then left

His female friends were walking around screaming and crying when alls that was needed was for someone to get him into a car ( and , 'yes' , they had a car he says ) and take Jack immediately to hospital

Instead , he claims , they <deleted> around for half an hour planning revenge and carrying on like idiots and NOBODY would have anything to do with them

My informant is clear he didnt see what took place inside the club

Nor is he an advocate of violence

But he says that if Jacks behaviour inside the club was anything like what he and his group exhibited outside , then he was not surprised at all that Jack got into the situation he did

His view is the opposite of most posters here

He claims it was Jack and his crew claiming that Jacks mother was "influential" in Australian diplomatic circles and that he was immune from consequences ( as he was tossed out of the bar earlier in the night )

And that it was Jack who came across as a spoiled and 'priviliged' kid and that he his friends were all carrying on like spoiled idiots

I dont 'know' the facts , but this informant , I have had verified , was there at the time

Im not trying to justify the violence in any way ,nor was he

Just thought that some of the 'pieces' to the story may be informative

( Some assertions I havent checked but readers may be able to verify ; 'Jacks mother works for the Aus Consulate' and ' Jack was eventually driven to hospital by drunken members of the same party as ambulance men refused to do so ' )

I hope your informant wasn't paid or my missed is right and I am in the dog house

My misses said that maybe he caused trouble and if people don't go around causing trouble then nothing bad shall happen to you

I have been arguing that he was bullied by some rich people and he was just a young kid in the wrong place at the wrong time

I hope your informant is making most of this up or i shall have to eat my words lol

Luckily my misses is Thai and can't read english well so maybe I shall just keep it hush hush till anything new comes out

I'm a local farang in Samui and I have heard about this story from my Thai girlfriend. I know this 'informer', {name removed} and I know this is total bullshit. I heard that he tried to bludgeon that young man with a bottle that night, because he was making too much of a fuss in the soi. She told me that the boy was passed out on the street while his mates were looking to get him to a hospital or something. {name removed} had a local reputation as a loose cannon, loved his drink and quick to violence. This was apparently the last straw and he was sacked. Went to Lazy Frog next and was sacked soon after. Cannot get a job in Samui to save his life, idiot that he is. Gives us Brits a bad name. Complete tosser.