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  1. Just an update on our weekend in Bangkok.....it went very well but maybe not as expected !

    Our friends were quoted big money for Bengals (45k) and Maine Coons (50k) so they decided to look at Persians on Pantip online.

    We made several appointments to view on Saturday and Sunday and our friends were quite keen on a Silver Chinchilla male.They had phoned the guy who advertised up and he said he was away on Saturday but you can view him on Sunday.

    When Sunday came they phoned him and he said it was OK to view at 6pm in the evening ! Our friends said we were due to fly out of Bangkok at that time so would it be possible to view around lunchtime ?

    The guy was pretty dismissive and said it was difficult to get the cat ready for then as he had to be showered and groomed (thats the cat,not the seller !).He also said he was planning to take the cat to a friends petshop on Sukhumvit in the late afternoon for show.

    I think this is why he wasnt too bothered about viewing because he had already arranged this with his friend.So why bother advertising him for sale the previous week !

    So our friends were left disappointed but they might go again in a few weeks time to see what is available.

    However we had a couple of viewings on the Saturday.One place in Bang Na the Persian kittens were very cute and well cared for.Our friends werent too keen on the colours but there was a little tabby male kitten who sat on our small sons lap and purred.

    Well,I think maybe you can guess the outcome ! "Dad,do you think we could......."

    So we ended up buying him ! Also they offered us a female for free.Three months old,very unusual silver grey colour with white feet dark blue eyes and a black face ! I have to admit shes absolutely gorgeous and the boy cat is very cute as well.

    So,our family,who went along for the ride ended up with two kittens and our friends,who set out to buy,came home empty handed.

    Both kittens have settled in well and no infighting with our other cats.They have been named Ronaldo and Rihanna........sad,I know ! cool.gif

    so cute!!!! any pictures now? wow...i digged out an old post...

  2. ok, I'll bite

    1. Your gender, age, relationship status

    Male, 38, married, 2 kids

    My personality: extremely unsensitive

    2. Your analysis of these two persons' personality. If you can directly link your analysis with quoting their words, it would be better

    Woman: very emotional, very self-centered, she doesn't make much sense at all in what she writes at the beginning. She seems to be under the influence of an emotional shock.

    Man: normal - can't say much about him, I wonder what this DM training is and why it is so important, but I understand he's jobless and the training might be his way into a job.

    3. Is the woman too demanding or the man is not sensitive enough?

    Difficult to say.

    I guess the woman failed the communication because it was a chat and not a phone conversation or a face to face conversation.

    I think it would have taken a different turn if she had been able to cozy herself in the man's arms and show her tears (or on the phone he could have heard her sobbing and asked what was wrong).

    In a computer chat, the man had no chance to see her body language, and what she wrote made no sense, even she fed him false or irrelevant information.

    The man's requests for information were met with replies that implied he did something wrong.

    4. Do you advice these two people to work out problems and try to date each other or they better off find other people?

    I don't know. The relationship might work if they are physically together and if they know each other better.

    If I was the man - and judging from his answers in the chat, I could be that man - I wouldn't want a relationship with a person who is unable to express herself in an understandable way if put a little bit under stress and begins to hysterically lash out at everybody.

    And... that's not a person who should manage a big project either.

    About finding other people: if such behavior is normal for the woman, then yes, they both better find other people. I know one woman who has a similar character, an over-the-top emotional manipulator, and I feel bad when I am anywhere near her.

    5. Any other general comment that is helpful in find out how people should deal with gender caused issue in relationship?

    I can't see that this is gender caused.

    The woman was under shock and her cognitive functions were obviously too impaired to properly communicate over a written media in her state of shock/hysteria.

    I would say the failure in communication is due to the choice of means of communication: computer chat.

    If they had communicated face to face, the man would have noticed her distress and probably reacted differently.

    On the other hand, when I look at the chat timestamps, I wonder how much time she needs to come to her senses?

    thanks a lot. i had a better idea in setting my hypothesis in this test research.

  3. Background:

    We are a group of sociology students wanted to see how gender difference influence relationship. We used a real conversation in this test. We think somewhat it reflects some common issues people face in relationship. Some personal information has been desensitized. We want to put this post in male forum and female forum and generate response. Please kindly help us.

    This is a conversation between a woman and a man. The woman is a busy working professional. The man was a busy working professional but now taking long holiday to travel and taking course. They met in a trip. They were kinda dating each other. The man said he really likes the woman. The woman was not sure whether the man is right for her, but they agree to give a bit try. They spend a whole month together and now live in two different cities. (she is in B CITY, he is in T city) They haven’t seen each other for a month.

    The context of this conversation is, the woman was facing a huge challenge from work. Someone made up a trouble and made it big, so the big boss stop her project that she has been working on for 6 months, just 5 days before the deliver day. She had to end it, 1 day before the deliver day, because otherwise it will drag more people into trouble. She has been in pain for more than a day.

    Please help out if you can carefully read through all details, we’ll appreciate your genuine advise or analysis.

    Please do not judge and comment without objectively understand the conversation.

    We want to know

    1. Your gender, age, relationship status

    2. Your analysis of these two persons’ personality. If you can directly link your analysis with quoting their words, it would be better

    3. Is the woman too demanding or the man is not sensitive enough?

    4. Do you advice these two people to work out problems and try to date each other or they better off find other people?

    5. Any other general comment that is helpful in find out how people should deal with gender caused issue in relationship?

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    Yesterday15:09:53: Woman: Reply me after u came out, can u pass B city to fly oversea?

    Yesterday19:27:57: Man: Geez what an exhausting day, Feel totally burnt out.

    Yesterday19:30:40: Man: I'm gonna check prices of total trip, then choose the best option. So not sure if I'll be through B city.

    Yesterday19:31:16: Woman: I cancelled my trip. Come to B city

    Yesterday19:32:15: Man: Why did you cancel your trip?

    Yesterday19:54:15: Woman: I had to right

    Yesterday20:00:30: Woman: I wanted to come directly to your place.

    Yesterday20:36:26: Man: Huh?

    Yesterday20:40:31: Woman: Wow you replied my previous message with an "huh" not "come to me baby"

    Yesterday20:43:50: Man: Ya cause your two sentences together don't make sense

    Yesterday20:43:58: Man: So I said huh

    Yesterday20:44:32: Man: Since I asked a question of why did you cancel your trip and got that as a response

    Yesterday20:46:37: Woman: You can say come to me and figure out later

    Yesterday20:49:00: Man: If you want to come, you're welcome of course. Just be aware that I'm pushing my DM training much harder and intensely now

    Yesterday20:49:14: Man: I'm doing a new level starting in February

    Yesterday21:17:49: Man: ?

    Yesterday21:23:24: Woman: Well let's see about that! So u almost ready for new level?

    Yesterday21:23:34: Woman: ?

    Yesterday21:58:43: Woman: Sigh, I think I was imagining a guy that could comfort me give me the safety I need and then help me out of desperateness. Who can't wait to see me.

    Yesterday21:58:51: Woman: I don't know

    Yesterday21:59:12: Woman: Maybe that's not you, it's someone I imagined?

    Yesterday22:06:15: Man: Maybe

    Yesterday22:06:39: Man: Or maybe its me telling you that I'm doing a program

    Yesterday22:07:01: Man: And my time would be limited

    Yesterday22:09:20: Man: I'm really tired. I was up late chatting with you lastnight, then up early and today was exhausting

    Yesterday22:09:37: Man: So I'm going to sleep. Can barely keep my eyes open

    Yesterday22:09:52: Man: Goodnight

    Yesterday22:10:02: Man: Sweet dreams

    Yesterday22:10:18: Woman: I m not good

    Yesterday22:10:21: Woman: But

    Yesterday22:10:26: Woman: Go sleep

    Yesterday22:11:06: Man: You're not in danger and your parents are at home

    Yesterday22:11:24: Man: So you don't need protection and safety

    Yesterday22:11:26: Woman: Right that's exactly why I m out in a bar

    Yesterday22:11:44: Man: Well that's your choice

    Yesterday22:11:45: Woman: Bcos I can't be sad at home

    Yesterday22:12:09: Man: It's your home

    Yesterday22:12:28: Woman: Not that I don't wanna be thoughtful for you

    Yesterday22:12:53: Woman: But I killed my baby I had for more than 6 months

    Yesterday22:13:04: Woman: I did everything for it

    Yesterday22:13:08: Man: Huh?

    Yesterday22:13:14: Woman: I killed it myself today

    Yesterday22:13:36: Woman: Bcos they want me to surrender

    Yesterday22:13:45: Woman: It's not easy

    Yesterday22:13:56: Man: What are you talking about?

    Yesterday22:16:10: Woman: And a guy who likes me who claim that he likes me will not say " you are out in a bar, it's your choice" " oh you wanna come and see me ?( bcos I wanna spent this time I m finally free and also seek for a peace of mind from someone that I can rely on who I needed when I m weak) you are welcome but I don't have much time for you"

    Yesterday22:26:54: Man: I understand you're upset with losing out on your trip, but the world doesn't revolve around you. Ya you're at a bar and it is your choice. No one is forcing you to be there. There isn't a gun to your head that says you must be in a bar. Yes, I'm busy, doing a program that I've paid a lot of money to do. So, no, I don't have a ton of free time.

    Yesterday22:27:01: Man: You may be generous with your time and money when it comes to the project and kids, but you're fairly shallow and selfish when it comes to me

    Yesterday22:27:07: Man: As they appear to be better people than I could ever be

    Yesterday22:27:09: Man: I think you need to find your guy friends you keep comparing me to, and get them to comfort you

    Yesterday22:27:20: Man: I'm sleeping now. Night.

    Yesterday22:31:18: Woman: I think it'll be childish for me to demand u to skip ur course etc for a weekend with me, (actually, really? I think it's legitimate to ask), if I only have one 2days weekend and I wanna spend with you, with all this travel etc, I think it's pretty significant. As thoughtful I am, I wasn't going to demand you, I was just hoping you would say, ok I can't cancel my course, but I can try to finish early and spend time with you.

    Today14:20:10: Woman: It doesn't matter anymore. It doesn't change the fact that you no longer has feeling for me. If we had this fight in person and we have to sleep together later. It might be glued back.

    Today14:21:34: Woman: Just quite a misfortune when we finally had some smooth time together at the end when we were together. Now it turned back to things like this.

    Today19:26:20: Man: My feelings are still there. It's your expectations that are too high for me to reach

    Today19:26:31: Man: I still like you a lot

    Today19:27:21: Man: But I can't live up to your expectations while doing my stuff

    Today19:27:34: Man: A weekend is different than two weeks

    Today19:28:00: Man: And you know I've signed up for an internship with a schedule

    Today19:28:19: Man: And my oversea trip is a set date as well

    Today19:28:29: Man: Can't change that

    Today19:40:46: Woman: Remember what did I do when you want a week of my time while I obviously do not have much free time? I moved with you, to maximize the time you can spend with me. I wanted sleep but Everytime I went along with you, tried to make you happy.

    Today19:45:40: Woman: I wanted to come to see you, let it be 2 days or 2 weeks. Thinking that I'll be protected and loved. I will no longer come to bother you, you paid so much for the course and you are so tired diving everyday already. Your limited time, I should let you sleep, eat well. Not to ask you to hug me tight so i'll feel better.

    Today19:50:54: Woman: Good luck, pick the cheapest way to Country S, have fun with your friends. There are so much pain in my heart, so much suffer that I do not deserve, to the point I only want to sleep get drunk sleep, I slept for a whole day, cos every other moment awake feels pain. It's ok, you will not understand. So it's not helping even if I talk to you right? I wonder why you are the first person I called when I got back to the country. I wonder why I wanted to see you after canceling the trip?

    Today19:53:05: Woman: Right, I am selfish and shallow to you. I was still arranging you a job in B City and running around when I was oversea looking for Reese candy.

    Today19:55:01: Woman: I don't mind a more expensive round trip ticket to T city just that I get more time out of two days with you. You told me you need to choose a cheaper way to Country S.

    Today19:55:56: Woman: Do what's best for you. I thank you for your help.

    Today20:10:56: Woman: Oh did I mention jan 22-23 is an important day in my culture, I wanted you to come to B City also for that? It's ok I knew you won't understand it. Really? Is it that significant? Maybe not. So cheaper way to Country S worth probably more.

    Today20:35:35: Man: I don't have a job, and you know that I blew a months budget in the first week I was in B City.

    Today20:36:17: Man: I have no way to make that back, except to reduce spending money

    Today20:36:38: Man: I didn't know you ran around in your oversea trip looking for candy

    Today20:37:54: Man: I don't get why you need to get drunk

    Today20:38:03: Man: You choose that

    Today20:43:18: Woman: Ironically, now. What I remembered was the nice time we had together.

    Today20:43:58: Woman: You are probably a guy that I've seen with the lowest possible EQ ever.

    Today20:44:18: Woman: I happen to be a delicate woman.

    Today20:45:34: Man: Give me a break. You're an adult woman, not a child

    Today20:45:50: Man: Do you really need to be babied

    Today20:46:52: Woman: You will surely have your break.

    Today20:47:11: Woman: I'll try to think of you

    Today20:47:47: Woman: Try to memorize you as a guy that really liked me

    Today20:50:15: Man: Its not past tense

    Today20:51:19: Man: I already told you, you're welcome to come to T city.

    Today20:53:51: Man: Okay, guess you're gone. Well take care. Xoxo.

    Two day weekend? Thursday night you were wanting to runaway down here for two weeks

    One hour in between without talking

    Woman says (9:18 PM):

    everything tortures me

    Man says (9:18 PM):

    how so?

    Woman says (9:19 PM):

    everyone

    i should be leaving on the airplane

    now

    Man says (9:20 PM):

    well what did the boss say to you the reason was?

    Man says (9:21 PM):

    Did the person sign that letter to help you to prove?

    Woman says (9:21 PM):

    its dirty politics

    he signed

    Man says (9:21 PM):

    so what's the reason

    Woman says (9:21 PM):

    i am too weak to stand on my own

    Woman says (9:22 PM):

    but i don't have anyone i can rely on

    i thought you were

    Man says (9:22 PM):

    you're not weak

    Woman says (9:23 PM):

    now i have to deal with a break up on top of all that other suffer

    Man says (9:23 PM):

    huh?

    Woman says (9:23 PM):

    i already collapsed

    i wanted to struggle to stand up and face a new day

    i couldn't

    Man says (9:23 PM):

    what break up

    Woman says (9:25 PM):

    everything tears me apart

    piece by piece

    my parents really care about me.

    they can't help at all

    they can't protect me

    Man says (9:25 PM):

    protect you from what?

    Woman says (9:26 PM):

    they can't protect themselves from this dirty world

    Man says (9:26 PM):

    is someone trying to kill you?

    Woman says (9:28 PM):

    we really aren't from the same planet are we

    Woman says (9:29 PM):

    why is it so hard for you to emotionally sympathize with other people

    even me?

    supposedly someone you like

    it's such a joke.

    Man says (9:30 PM):

    it's hard because you're so vague and using so many metaphors

    nothing is straight from you

    what protection do you require? from this dirty world?

    well what makes it dirty?

    Woman says (9:31 PM):

    it's amazing how you virtually incapable to understand metaphors

    Woman says (9:32 PM):

    all i need,

    is emotional support

    encouraging words

    a wild open arm

    someone who is ready to pick me up when i am so down

    Woman says (9:33 PM):

    i don't understand why my other friends can, male or female.

    Woman says (9:34 PM):

    they understand it's meaningful if i run away a town looking for their favorite candy

    they understand it's significant if they are the first person i call after a long trip

    Man says (9:34 PM):

    ya I got the significance

    Woman says (9:34 PM):

    they understand there is something wrong if i call them at 2am,

    Man says (9:34 PM):

    but 1. I didn't know I was the first person you called

    Man says (9:35 PM):

    2. you never told me you went searching for candy

    Woman says (9:35 PM):

    even if they missed the call, they'll call back the 1st thing in the next morning.

    Man says (9:35 PM):

    so how in the hell was I supposed to know that

    read your mind?

    I'm not a fortune teller

    Woman says (9:35 PM):

    yes, you asked me to get comfort from others.

    Man says (9:35 PM):

    no I told you to

    Man says (9:36 PM):

    cause you kept comparing me to everyone else

    I refuse to be compared to someone else

    Man says (9:37 PM):

    if I can't provide what you require, then find someone who will

    Woman says (9:37 PM):

    there are many people in this world, many are nice to me. i wanted to make you the one that i feel the most special.

    Woman says (9:38 PM):

    i realize i can't.

    it's painful

    again

    on top of all other things

    to realize i have to cut all these extra emotional connection with you

    Woman says (9:39 PM):

    all these special connection i artificially imagine i have with you

    Man says (9:40 PM):

    what connection?

    as I recall, I had more of an emotional connection to you, than you did to me

    Man says (9:42 PM):

    and I'm not even clear about what breakup you're talking about

    if you're talking about you and I, I didn't even know we were in a relationship

    Woman says (9:43 PM):

    we are not.

    but i thought we are thinking of one

    so if i was thinking about a possibility, i tried my BEST to create opportunities to make it happen

    Woman says (9:44 PM):

    so, now.

    Man says (9:44 PM):

    what? you kind of made it clear that you're not thinking about a relationship

    Woman says (9:44 PM):

    why not now

    if the world is hurting me.

    why not let you add up to the pain?

    bring this 2012 all together

    Woman says (9:45 PM):

    if i didn't end up suicide

    Man says (9:45 PM):

    the world isn't hurting you

    stop making a mountain out of a mole hill

    Woman says (9:45 PM):

    what ever what ever

    Woman says (9:46 PM):

    this is already enough damage

    Man says (9:46 PM):

    well why not be honest??

    Woman says (9:46 PM):

    to whatever we could have

    and whatever we had

    if there were suppose to be a future.

    Woman says (9:47 PM):

    there is no longer one, between you and me.

    Man says (9:47 PM):

    fine

    Woman says (9:47 PM):

    if you never thought about it

    too bad, i thought too much

    my bad

    i should not have done that.

    Man says (9:48 PM):

    well for your next potential relationship, I suggest to you that you give clear messages

    cause when you say you don't want to think about a relationship

    I take that to mean you don't want to think about a relationship

    not the opposite

    Woman says (9:49 PM):

    i wanted to laugh,

    Man says (9:49 PM):

    When you say you're having fun in manila and changing hotels for a different conference, to took that to mean you're having fun and changing hotels for a conference

    Woman says (9:49 PM):

    but i don't know should i laugh at you or myself

    Man says (9:50 PM):

    not that you were runnign around looking for candy

    when you say "hey I wanna run away and stay with you for 2 weeks" I took that as you wanted to come stay with me for two weeks

    not, a weekend

    I mean, I don't know where I'm going wrong here

    Man says (9:51 PM):

    needing protection? perhaps be a little more clear, since you mean emotional support

    Man says (9:52 PM):

    and I still don't get how the world is a dirty place

    Woman says (9:52 PM):

    you could have asked for details, "oh, are you thinking of coming for two weeks, cos i currently need to go for an oversea trip, but if you want to go with me, that's totally fine"

    Man says (9:52 PM):

    your trip was canceled

    Woman says (9:53 PM):

    your emotionless response has poured a bucket of iced water from top to my toe

    just like the night,

    when i wanted to talk about some sentimental stuff

    you cutted me off

    Man says (9:53 PM):

    what?

    Man says (9:54 PM):

    which night was that?

    Woman says (9:54 PM):

    then you were yelling " what? why don't you say anything now?"

    " you were not happy because i didn't listen to you. now i ask you to say it, you do not say a word"

    Man says (9:54 PM):

    what are you talking about?

    Woman says (9:55 PM):

    i wanted to talk about my childhood

    Man says (9:55 PM):

    when?

    Woman says (9:55 PM):

    in no condition you provided me a mood to continue my talk

    Woman says (9:56 PM):

    your cold response has put off my willingness of opening up

    instantly

    hehe. YOU DON'T EVEN REMEMBER

    a continous TWO nights that i almost cried my heart out

    Woman says (9:57 PM):

    i can't even say a sentence properly

    bcos my heart hurts so bad

    the desparate night that i asked you " can i please go home" you told me " do whatever you want"

    Man says (9:59 PM):

    omg, you're talking about back in B city

    geez

    how was I supposed to piece that together

    ya I don't get what's wrong with saying to do whatever you want

    you're an adult

    can you go home? ya, you're an adult, you can do what you want

    Man says (10:00 PM):

    really, do I need to treat you like a 4 year old?

    if I do, then let me know and I will

    Woman says (10:01 PM):

    from day 1

    i told you, i am normally a strong and tough person

    i protect others

    i stand up for others

    Woman says (10:02 PM):

    i hope the guy i like, the guy i can rely on, can then protect me and make me feel secure

    time to time

    when i need to take off my "tough woman" outfit

    i just want to be a little girl

    laugh with him

    Woman says (10:03 PM):

    or go back home cry to him how i was bullied outside

    Man says (10:03 PM):

    you still haven't told me how you were bullied

    guess I have to read your mind on that one too

    Woman says (10:04 PM):

    he would calm me down, make me feel secure and then ask about detail, tell me how to deal with big bullies outside

    Man says (10:07 PM):

    well now we're getting somewhere, bullies is pluralized, so now I know there was more than one, and they were big apparently

    Woman says (10:08 PM):

    let me just publicize our conversation today.

    edit all personal details

    Woman says (10:10 PM):

    let the rest of the world to judge who is understanding,

    who is not.

    Man says (10:11 PM):

    I don't need to be judged

    Man says (10:13 PM):

    but go ahead

    Woman says (10:13 PM):

    the point is not to judge you.

    Woman says (10:14 PM):

    i perhaps just wanna know, whether i expected too much.

    from a guy

    Man says (10:14 PM):

    go ahead and publicize it and see what people say

    it will be obviously bias, as "the world" you speak of will be "your friends"

    Man says (10:15 PM):

    so they'll be bias towards you, and probably won't tell you that you're being a bit nutty

    Woman says (10:16 PM):

    oh, by all means

    after i edit this file,

    get rid of personal content

    pls publize on your facebook

    tag your guy friends

    i am more than happy to see how they says.

    Ok, if i turned out to be too demanding, i'll change.

    Man says (10:18 PM):

    no, that's going to happen

    I'm not going to spam my friends with garbage

    but you can to your friends if you must

    Man says (10:19 PM):

    I don't need consensus

    Woman says (10:23 PM):

    bye, after i completely lost faith in our future. i missed terribly your smile, the moment that i jump on you, you hold me up, the moment i cries so hard and you drag me back into your arm.

    i hope, i'll find a guy who also give me all that.

    Woman says (10:24 PM):

    oh, i also liked a lot, when you wrote me one email

    Woman says (10:25 PM):

    just to let me know what happened in your life on that day.

    Man says (10:26 PM):

    well I wish you luck in finding that guy

    Man says (10:27 PM):

    also try to keep mole hills, as mole hills, not mountains

    the world isn't out to get you

    Man says (10:28 PM):

    your trip was canceled. That's it. That's what happened.

    You'll survive without a trip to Africa

    Man says (10:29 PM):

    it's not the end of the world

    Man says (10:30 PM):

    and since we weren't in a relationship, and it was only a faint possibility, I don't see why you'd be upset if I wasn't there to protect you, comfort you, or whatever else you needed

    Woman says (10:31 PM):

    i thought there is no need to bring this up again.

    Woman says (10:32 PM):

    but, when we said bye after watching movie together

    i thought it ended in a way, that we both look into a positive light.

    we were talking about me taking the 4 days to come over,

    maybe you can pick me at the station

    Woman says (10:33 PM):

    once in a while

    back then

    you were so looking forward for me to do that

    you showed me the apartment.

    Man says (10:33 PM):

    ya? I haven't thought in a negative light

    I told you you're welcome to come

    Woman says (10:33 PM):

    so lovely so that i can be happy when i go stay with you.

    Woman says (10:34 PM):

    i thought that was thoughtful and sweet of you.

    Man says (10:34 PM):

    I didn't rent this place to make you happy

    being with me anywhere, should have done that

    Man says (10:36 PM):

    you've barely been in the country since I left B city

    Man says (10:37 PM):

    so a 4 day weekend hasn't even been a choice

    Woman says (10:44 PM):

    you just would not let our conversation end nice, would you? no matter what i try?

    Please leave us your analysis. Appreciated a lot.

    We want to know

    1. Your gender, age, relationship status

    2. Your analysis of these two persons’ personality. If you can directly link your analysis with quoting their words, it would be better

    3. Is the woman too demanding or the man is not sensitive enough?

    4. Do you advice these two people to work out problems and try to date each other or they better off find other people?

    5. Any other general comment that is helpful in find out how people should deal with gender caused issue in relationship?

  4. Dear all

    This is a non-Thai friend’s situation in preparing for a US B1/B2 visa in bangkok. See if any of you would be able to provide some useful information. He is very worried, as his case looks very solid but if the visa officer wanted to be harsh, it can be difficult too.

    1. he is not a Thai citizen, but stayed in Thailand for 6 year now. finished 1st bachelor degree, now on the 2nd degree, currently on the student visa staying in thailand, there are 2 more years to finish the 2nd degree.

    2. He is a public speaking coach for a thai high school while studying. He was awarded the national champion by the former US ambassador ( will the photograph with the former US ambassador help the visa in anyway?)

    But due to the excellent training results, the high school is offering him a full time contract now, they will also offer work permit and etc from May 2011.

    3. Now he is selected to be the coach for the national team to a US championship. Take a group of high school students. So he need to applied a US B1/B2 visa. The school will pay for all the expenses for him. (since school is going to fully funded, is his bank balance still important? )

    4. He is currently struggling and paranoid in getting a visa because of the short notice and a bad experience with US embassy 5 years ago. He applied a J1 work and travel program as a foreign student in Thailand, at that time he only stayed in Thailand less than 1 year. So they rejected the visa on “no strong ties”, despite his scholarship and straight A grade. He has never tried to go to US ever since. However he has been to Canada, NZ, Australia, Ireland, Japan, Korea, Singapore and etc about 15 countries in the past 6 years of stay in Thailand.

    5. He bought an apartment in Bangkok, but due to certain legal procedures and the contract, the apartment is not under his name yet. However, he can show the contract that he signed with the Seller and the past 6 months of Housing Loan receipts and the payment receipt to the seller. Is that enough to prove his purchase of the apartment? (given the housing payment haven’t complete, does that become a tie to return to Thailand?)

    6. His questions include “My current appointment is on March 14, and we are supposed to fly on March 21 or 22.Do I have enough time for the visa to process just in case there are additional documents needed for my case? How long does it take to get the passport back given the visa is granted”

    7. The most important question, how should him, as a foreign nationals, establish the ties with Thailand? For him it make no sense to return to his home country to do this visa as in the past 6 years he is in Thailand primarily, logistically it’s impossible too. After attending the tournament in the US, he will come back to Thailand to sign the contract with the school.

    8. what are the specific document in this case that you would recommend to have to take to the interview?

    9. Do you guys know any story that a foreign nationals has obtained a US visa from Bangkok? What’s the story? Thanks for sharing the information!!

    ***currently we know one of our friend, who hold a indian passport, has similar travel experiences, currently a 4th year student in a well known university, got her 10 year B1/B2. it was very easy for her.

  5. hey everyone

    can anyone tell me

    whether now go to cambodia by bus is still possible?

    i planned to go to cambodia over land this week

    but i heard the boarder were closed?

    so only option is to fly???

    Boarder is open. Go

    Thank you so much,

    so i can take a normal route to boarder, cross the boarder, then hire a taxi to siam riep?

    what about the safety issue?

    is it safe to travel now?

    is there still tourists or visa run people around?

    assuming there must still be troops there?

    just came back to thailand from oversea, so don't know the situation much

  6. hey Dear all

    i have two friends who hold chinese passport with a Thai TR visa and plan to stay in thailand for a month

    fly in and out from bangkok

    but in the middle, they want to go visit Cambodia

    but usually the TR visa are single entry

    so i wonder,

    should they go to cambodia and come back and get a VOA at the cambodia boarder

    or should they get an re-entry on that Thai Tourist visa

    or should they just try to apply a multiple entry TR visa in China?

    Thanks for your advice.

  7. Thanks for your reply

    this is what i actually did today

    i went to pantip and distribute posters and flyers about it

    i m also distributing flyers to taxi drivers...

    i was going to say 50000baht for the returning of the suitcase...

    do you think this is a good figure?

    If 50,000 baht won't get your suitcase back, nothing will (along with some very tedious work on your part). Since you are still determined to try (against the odds), just get the word out every way you can. I'd go back to the exact location, same time, same everything and talk to any drivers or baggage helpers or whatever, distributing your flyers.

    I hope you have a very lucky day soon Angel!

    Thank you so much

    I mean,

    This means so much for me

    I uploaded the files of the flyers

    http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Lost-Suitcas...le-t360442.html

    if you can, can u print out some and distribute them at your convenience?

    I really really appreciated...

  8. I posted the first post about the lost suitcase in this post

    http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Help-Lost-Ca...-L-t358426.html

    then i have tried a lot of ways in trying the last bit to find it

    though i know the hope is slim

    but i really want the person who has the laptop to know

    i m willing to pay twice as much as he could sold to anyone to buy it back

    and my other stuff in the suitcase

    It's just too painful to take this.

    I woke up in deep sorrow everyday in the morning..

    I need my working files,

    I need my 10,000pictures...

    I need all my efforts in past years...

    God...

    I need a Miracle

    So i need to accumulate everyone's effort to help me to do that

    It's farely simple at this stage

    It's just to distribute the poster and flyers to every corner of Bangkok

    Let them know i will pay any price to take the things back

    I attached two files

    one is for computer shops, blackmarket, secondhand market etc

    the 2nd one is for taxi companies, taxi drivers, people who know that industry well

    All my dear friends, please just help me to print them out, photocopy them and distribute them to each pink taxi that you took

    if you need to go to computer plaza, like fortune, pantip, or anywhere like a 2nd hand shop or any black market

    please give them the poster about the computer

    I Thank You!!!

    My strength to distribute all these are too small

    but with all of you,

    I m sure the offer would tempt the person who took my stuff for profit..

    PLEASE SPREAD THE WORD AND HELP MEAttention_to_Taxi_Driver__Thai_.docAttention_to_Taxi_Driver__Thai_.doc

    Attention_to_computer_shops_thai_.doc

  9. Have you ever considered that it is not the driver who has the bag? Perhaps the next fare he picked up took it.

    it's not very possible,

    cos the entire carry on was on the front seat...

    no passenger can sit on the front seat nor can anyone took it without the driver's notice

    What do you mean 'no passenger can sit on the front seat'?

    Why was the bag in the front seat with you in the back seat?

    That's where i was confused. If it was my bag it would have been sitting next to me, attached to me etc. and I would have felt a bit lost without it if I had got out of the taxi without it.

    Anyway, each to their own.

    Good luck with your search.

    i know, usually the carry on suitcase is in the back trunk with the big luggage

    but this time i have too many pieces of luggage, the back trunk is full, and i have two bags with me in the back seat

    then the driver put the carry on suitcase on the front seat

    sigh....i know..

    i know i should have put it next to me

    even though it will be pile up..

    but....sigh...

  10. The taxi driver likely sold your laptop the same night to a pawnshop or computer shop the next morning. After that the shop owner would remove your pink sticker and erase all personal data (still possible to retrieve lost data) to make it next to impossible to recognize in case it was stolen. The reason for that is under Thai law whoever gets caught with the stolen goods is liable unless you can find the perpetrator and prove it. There is no such thing as buying in good faith here.

    So your best bet after hiring a private investigator would be to find whoever removed your pink sticker and resold your notebook. For that you can post a reward for the computer or information leading to its retrieval on all major online thai second hand markets.

    You should include serial number and as much information in Thai as you possibly can gather about the computer.

    In addition to that you could go down to pantip plaza and ask around in the second hand notebook shops.

    You would also have to make it very clear you are willing to pay a nice reward in addition to buying the notebook back at market price or higher.

    The chances of actually finding the notebook are still extremely slim but that's how I would go about things if I found myself in your shoes.

    Best of luck!

    EDIT: The key for this to work is a good reward that makes shop owners ask around because few people lifts a finger here without being paid.

    Thanks for your reply

    this is what i actually did today

    i went to pantip and distribute posters and flyers about it

    i m also distributing flyers to taxi drivers...

    i was going to say 50000baht for the returning of the suitcase...

    do you think this is a good figure?

  11. There is some small chance, that a good professional private eye co. would be able to digitally enhance the cctv vid clip enough to get the reg. number. Assuming AOT would co-operate. (bearing in mind you were intentionally cutting them out of their 50bht taxi fee!)

    Assume you reported it to the local Police station to get a police report number for your travel or house insurance claim?

    I know that doesn't replace the lost content, but it would help replace the clothes & computer.

    i checked the video myself...with some friends...

    it's really far and dark

    since it's at night

    we felt frustrated then we didn't ask AOT to keep the record

    I am afraid it erased the files already...

    i want the professional detective to grass out the driver and the car for me though

    i m sure within that limited cars

    i can find out the car i sit in

    but i need someone to screen them out and contact the taxi companies

  12. Small chance but did work for me - report the serial number of the laptop with Acer Thailand if you have it handy. If anybody sends the laptop in for maintenance Acer will (or should) call you to let you know they've found it.

    I had a HTC phone stolen two years ago, but the phone was registered with HTC when I first bought it. Six months later my missus got a phone call from HTC saying somebody had handed it in to get it serviced. The guy who handed it in purchased it from somebody online and was looking to get it refurbished. The phone memory was still intact also!

    Long shot, but still worth a try.

    wow....this is good, i m going to call Acer center tomorrow.

    I thought about there must be a way to track the lost computer through serial number....

  13. You have my full sympathy!I am absentminded like hel_l,once I left my laptop in bus - After chasing the bus route for halh an hour - I found it on my seat;

    yesterday - I left it in street restaurant having breakfast,waiter chased me 200 mtrs. down the street to hand it back.

    You have a chance to get it back:post ads in Thai newspapers,community FM stations,what else?You can hire private eye(they can be very usefull).Promise very high reward,

    may be somebody grass the taxidriver.

    i want the private eye i want them....

    where can i hire a private detective????

    god....

    i want it back i want it back....

    Geez there must be very important files on that computer!

    7 years of data and you never backed up?!

    Losing a notebook usually is nothing more than a minor inconvenience.

    Are you worried some files might make their way to the internet :)

    Yeah that's what I was thinking. Maybe someone has a "colorful" history they don't want revealed. Then again if she's unattractive I don't see any of the contents ever making their way to the internet.

    Thanks for making me laugh at midnight,

    well,

    you know what

    i sincerely wish i have the scandalous pics for them to blackmail me

    at least they will contact me

    i do have a lot of hot pictures there, that's why i wanted it back

    but nothing scandalous enough to be on internet i assume...

  14. you gave it a good try. Now think back to all those closets and chests you have rumaged through during you life time. You would find items that remind you of your childhood, first date, when you started school, etc. You say to yourself i can not get rid of that item it because it means so much to you. Before going through the box or closet how many times did you ever pull these items out to look at them to remember these events??? never only when cleaning out or moving. SO as nice as they are for memories be thankfull you have your mind to keep all things wonderfull to you. I understand papers you scanned, documents or whatever. But the originals exist some place probably. Just have to work in finding them.

    Sorry you lost the laptop.

    great if you get it back but with each day less hope looms around the corner.

    thank you for this psychological therapy...

    i know...

    eventually...

    but i still, really need it back

    i have so many things that i don't have an extra copy...

    i need a way to grass the driver out

  15. You have my full sympathy!I am absentminded like hel_l,once I left my laptop in bus - After chasing the bus route for halh an hour - I found it on my seat;

    yesterday - I left it in street restaurant having breakfast,waiter chased me 200 mtrs. down the street to hand it back.

    You have a chance to get it back:post ads in Thai newspapers,community FM stations,what else?You can hire private eye(they can be very usefull).Promise very high reward,

    may be somebody grass the taxidriver.

    i want the private eye i want them....

    where can i hire a private detective????

    god....

    i want it back i want it back....

  16. curious, when did you finally realized you lost your case?

    and when did you make any actions?

    15 days later and its wayy beyond any hope I'm afraid...

    sorry for you loss, I know how I'd feel in your shoes.... if not worse...

    i realized that 1min after i get off, and the taxi just drove away.

    but i was waiting for it to come back to return to me

    then my friend called the radio station and the call center for me

    but the problem is i am on a transit flight, i need to fly out to indonesia after 10 hours...

    so i have to leave

    then i leave this to my friends

    they were keep calling the airport and radio

    but no response...

    now i finally come back...

    i want a systematic way to screen out the taxi companies and drivers

    anyone has any idea how to do that?

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